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hanuman Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 174 |
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:13 am Post subject: Love, loving and spirituality |
Hanuman, a warm welcome to XBKchat. The autobiographical post you made - under Eromain's topic "child abuse in brahma kumaris" - is a wonderfully open and honest sharing of life experience and we commend you for it. We have transferred this post / topic from the XBKs only forum to this (the main) forum. Posting in the XBK only forum is by invitation of the Administrator only. As the name suggests, that forum is for XBKs only and, at this point, we do not know whether you are an XBK or a practising BK, so we have no basis on which to extend the invitation. Perhaps in time you will make this clear. Thanks. Admin. ================================================ This may seem a hot topic. However, it is a topic of concern to us all, BKs and xBKs. The balancing act of loving while maintaining a stage of purity has always concerned me as a BK. I would like to see some responses from some of my brothers and sisters. _________________ Om Shanti, To my brothers and sisters. Love to you all, Errol bhai
Atma Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 98 |
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject: |
Hanuman bhai, welcome to XBKchat.....home of the "leftists" Enjoyed reading your post, which admin referred to above. So, you hail from Guyana eh? I know a thing or two about Caribbean culture and lingo, so let me ask: Are you saying that after all the long years of intense effort and daily predawn meditation, that you finally got your reward when you "ketch ting"? In other words, is the attractive lady you mentioned the fruit of your dharna? I know, I know.......it may be a highly spiritual and rarified relationship and interaction. Still, it carries the man woman dynamic does it not? Remember that tidbit from the murlis?: the sanyasis say that "man and woman are like fire and cotton wool." In other words, they can't have a close relationship without combustion taking place. So yes, how does one deal with it? Continuing in the Caribbean flow: The kingdom may be non lashing, but do we have to be when we are in love?
bkry Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 113 Location: Malaysia |
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:22 am Post subject: |
Sweetest Hanuman Bhai, you are fortunate that you have not met a girl who is capable of taking you for a ride. When you meet such a girl, what would you do in respect of gyan. Would you sing the Sayonara (Goodbye) song to gyan and Baba? _________________ God's angel. BK Pari
bkry Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 113 Location: Malaysia |
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
Hey Errol Bhai, a BK should not be afraid to face test papers. Nothig can give as great test papers as a relationship or marriage to a corporeal being would. To such a BK, I would say, "My best wishes. Being victorious in your test papers can make you very powerful. When one faces test-papers because of a marriage or relationship to a corporeal being, the head can spin but during that time, the weaknesses are there in an emerged state and this gives an opportunity to work on them. Then, happiness can be experienced again". _________________ God's angel. BK Pari
hanuman Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 174 |
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:12 am Post subject: Love, Loving and Spirituality |
Atma, I was so much into Raj Yog and gyan, that I never thought of the incident as a fruit of my tapasya. To me it was simply the settlement of karmic accounts with that soul. The index that I was victorious was the fact that I graduated from veterinary school and I was able to live the Brahmin life as I studied veterinary medicine. One of my yuktis was to establish a Platonic relationship with the lady. Hanuman _________________ Om Shanti, To my brothers and sisters. Love to you all, Errol bhai
hanuman Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 174 |
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:40 am Post subject: Love, Loving and Spirituality |
BKry, I have never been afraid of tests. I simply take them like the lokik or academic examinations. To me the encounters are the result of past deep karmic accounts. Thank you very much for your comments. _________________ Om Shanti, To my brothers and sisters. Love to you all, Errol bhai
bkry Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 113 Location: Malaysia |
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: |
Sweetest Hanuman, maybe I am a little old fashioned but shouldn't you explain your situation to the girls involved. If not, isn't there a possibility that the girls may fall deeply in love with you because of your sweetness. Are you being fair to them? For you it may just be a challenge of being victorious in a situation but what about the others involved? I do not have a right to intervene in your affairs and as you said there are karmic accounts to be settled. By the way, do you think that there is a possibility that you are using gyan as a shield to remain single so that you can continue enjoying flirting. Maybe, we are also going through a settling process here - settling karmic accounts. _________________ God's angel. BK Pari
administrator Site Admin Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 48 |
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject: |
We now have a basis on which to make a decision. hanuman is invited to contribute to the exclusive "XBK issues...for XBKs ONLY" forum. He may also post in all other forums. Now that he is a member of XBKchat, he cannot START topics in "Visitors' comments" but he may RESPOND to posts made there by visitors and ohers. As we had already transferred this topic to this (main) forum, and seeing that it has received responses from bkry, who is not a contrubutor to the "XBKs ONLY" forum, we have decided to let this topic remain here, in the main forum.
hanuman Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 174 |
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: Love, Loving and Spirituality |
Dear BKry, Your questions are insightful. I do agree with your comments. I have explained to my sisters who demonstrated an interest in me, my path in life. The reactions have been varied. Some have developed an interest in gyan. Others have cried and maintained a Platonic friendship. Some have called me names. I recalled one day in veterinary school, one young lady announced in the class that I lacked libido. Her reason for the announcement was due to the fact that I once ignored her advances. I prefer to be faithful to God and one lady only. My soulmate understands my spirituality. There are always karmic accounts to settle with souls. I try to settle them with gyan and yoga. The most challenging have always been with BK sisters. Fortunately, I have had that extra-special protection from Baap-Dada. _________________ Om Shanti, To my brothers and sisters. Love to you all, Errol bhai
Atma Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 98 |
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Love, Loving and Spirituality |
hanuman wrote:
I prefer to be faithful to God and one lady only.
hanuman, what you said, above, reminds me of an expression that sister Hemlata once jokingly mentioned to me. In Hindi it goes like this: "Ek nari, bramachari".....meaning (roughly) a one wife celibate She said that this expression was used by some married men in India, in response to BK teachings about celibacy. They were, in effect, saying: Hey! I too am like a bramachari......apart from my wife, I don't have any "sensual relations".
catlady Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 26 Location: USA |
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: Love, loving and spirituality |
Hanuman wrote:
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One of my yuktis was to establish a Platonic relationship with the lady.
What about the feelings of the lady? I noticed that bkry-Pari has also commented of this. Sophia _________________ Catlady
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