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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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It is a stage beyond thought and thinking actually stops us from entering that deep stage.
I wasn't talking in relation to soul consciousness. It was a response to your expression on thoughts and how they emerge. Of course a state of 'being' requires no thoughts. The bottom question is: how is it possible that you can have different stages of being? This is incredebily strange if you think about it. It does say something the nature of our own self which is apparently very plastical or something.
wahl Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 187 Location: Essex, England |
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: source of love |
I think it is a question of how refined the consciousness is at any time, i.e., to what degree the essence of a soul is emerged in the mind. Also, I feel that there is a sort of constant balancing act between the 'power' (careful again) of the being when in deep soul consciousness in comparison to the 'power' of the being when in body consciousness. It is obvious that we are in a very powerless state, when we are totally body conscious and the opposite is true in soul consciousness. Perhaps a second of deep s.c. is equal to a billion hours of b.c...........Do you get the gist of what I am trying to express? love wahl
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
I know what you mean. BUT, one can easily use his soul conscious 'power' in a wrong way (manipulation). So that leads us to a fundamental issue: what makes you sure that being soul conscious is just "good"? As there are many ways of being body concious, in the same way there can be different ways of being soul conscious. You see, there is still the old idea that whatever it is, materialistic is bad and metaphysical is per definition better or just plain "good". I'm afraid that's simply not true. In my opinion and experience, it's all about the HOW.
wahl Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 187 Location: Essex, England |
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:08 am Post subject: source of love |
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I know what you mean. BUT, one can easily use his soul conscious 'power' in a wrong way (manipulation).
I don't have any idea what you are talking about here????????? Manipulation of what? love wahl
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
where there is power, there is bound to be manipulation I can't see why you don't know what I mean. Certainly not as an x-bk since bk's find it a normal thing to do - i.e. manipulating people through their o so phantastic drishti/vibrations/whatever But instead of talking about manipulation, they talk about 'positive vibrations' --- it's all so relative
wahl Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 187 Location: Essex, England |
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: source of love |
Kevin, we are going round in circles here. You always relate everything back to how the BKs are out to get everyone under their wicked spell! Please forget about the BKs for just a moment. Soul consciousness was not invented by the BKs. It is a state of being which is way, way, way beyond the gross and clumsy quality of thought that is required in order to have the desire to manipulate someone. The power of any soul is the purest essence of that being........the starting point, the virgin state, before any experience. I imagine that a tiny baby, in it's first birth would not have much experience in the art of manipulation. Are you suggesting that the essence of a being can be pure evil...... Or are you misinterpreting what I mean by soul consciousness? What do you mean by the term soul consciousness? Love wahl
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
there is more in life than soul consciousness -- whatever that is I'm not turning in circles, but you seem to have difficulties in following my reasoning. You talk about "power" in relation to soul consciousness ... when I relate on this, you can't follow. Ik just want to make clear that turning into that "spiritual" world is not necessarily a good thing. It's a great misconception. I bet you can easily kill a person in the wonderful stage of soul consciousness. It does not make you a good person. I believe that after the things i've read that the Self is an emergent product of the brain. Different parts of the brain produce a part of your person and unite themselves as "I"' - this phenomenon is non-local, hence non-physical. If I were to cut a few pieces out of your brain here and there (without killing you ), your entire person (self) would be disordered. Do you really think there is some kind of "point of light" (whatever that is) in your brain which is "You"? How does this You use the brain?? No no, the brain uses itself. We musn't create a duality, when that's not necessary. What's more: the brain creates a simulation of the world around you, including your body. You and I live in a simulated reality .. we are even taking part in that simulation ourselves. It's not that you are observing this simulation, you are it! This is still unfinished business for me, but I do believe that the simple dualistic view of body - soul is fundamentally wrong. It's not sustained by brain research (at all). The only thing you can bring on are reincarnation stories -- but what is their value? Reincarnation might be a completely different process than we all imagine.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Kevin, we are going round in circles here. You always relate everything back to how the BKs are out to get everyone under their wicked spell! Rolling Eyes
there's no need to get sarcastic The bk's are the greatest example of manipulation through soul consciousness... without it, this stupid 'knowledge' would hardly attract anyone. shiva is very right to repeat over and over to remember him when doing service he's smart
wahl Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 187 Location: Essex, England |
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I bet you can easily kill a person in the wonderful stage of soul consciousness.
No, not possible Kevin. Love wahl x
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