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06 Jul 2006
I see the term "trance messenger", as used by the BKs, as an official role that is accepted within the BK systems. But a great many BKs will have visited the Subtle Regions and will certainly not be called trance messengers. I have been lucky enough to have had this experience myself - bu...
03 Jul 2006
It does seem that in channelling in general there are two recognised forms of channelling - conscious channelling (eg Brahma Baba) and trance channelling (eg Edgar Cayce, Gulzar). Conscious channelling is far more common and is not considered "clean" channelling, as the conscious medium c...
03 Jul 2006
The Russian Orthodox Church, the dominant religious institution in multi-religious Russia, has for the first time publicly released a list of organizations -- based in this country and abroad -- that it considers "harmful sects". All this article says is that the Russian Orthodox Church d...
26 Jun 2006
Dear howiemac, OK so you mean that all chariots can be trance messengers but not all trance messengers can be chariots, in other words the Chariot is the more specialised role. I am no expert in psychic terminology, but i understand BapDada speaking through Gulzar as channeling, similar to the proce...
23 Jun 2006
Dadi Gulzar is a trance messenger - as understand it the Bhog messages are trance messages. There is no sound in the Subtle Regions, so can be no words or conversation as we know it - it is all done by telepathy and visions, and through this very clear "messages" can be given - the trance...
19 Jun 2006
The channeling of BapDada through Gulzar is different from the Bhog messages - in the Bhog messages, the messenger consciously meets Brahma Baba / BapDada in the Subtle Region and comes back and reports her experience - whereas when BapDada speaks through Gulzar Dear Howiemac, OK thanks - are Bhog ...
19 Jun 2006
ex-l wrote:Benjamin Creme is another ; http://www.shareintl.org/
He talks about 'overshadowing' is a similar manner to the PBKs suggesting BB or Lekhraj Kirpalani or BapDada can.
Mr Creme channels various 'ascended masters' such as Maitreya, but not God.
19 Jun 2006
Dear John, Very interesting question. I think there are Christians who would say that God speaks to them and and perhaps through them in the loose sense but I don't think directly in the first person as the case of BK / PBK chariots. It doesn't really fit in with Christian theology, it's not somethi...
19 Jun 2006
Dear BKs, PBKs, ex-BKs, Is 'channelling' part of BK / PBK life? Perhaps it first depends on how the word is defined. I think that many outsiders would say that what the Chariot - DL / DG / Virendra Dev Dixit - does seems like channelling but would BKs/PBKs accept or reject this? I have also heard th...
18 Jun 2006
Dear Howiemac, Thanks for this, v interesting. You children must be wondering how there will be study through Brahma now…Class will continue as it has been up to now. What will be spoken? The body of Brahma was fixed and so the Murlis that were spoken through that body will always be the Murlis. The...
17 Jun 2006
The first Avyakt Murli in 1969 came (unexpectedly) through Gulzar, and in it BapDada told the Dadis to select the messenger they wished to use from there on - and Gulzar was selected. Wow the first ever Avyakt Murli - I would love to see this. Is it still available or has it disappeared? Does anyon...
15 Jun 2006
I hope it's OK to quite this from the wikipedia article - When I first joined the group, certain designated people would go into trance on Thursday morning when food was offered and bring back a message. I also attempted to accomplish such, opening myself to such subtle dreamlike perceptions, images...
15 Jun 2006
clay wrote:This was before he (Virendra Dev Dixit) was thrown out of the BKs by Dadi Prakashmani.
Dear Clay, Om Shanti. Do you have any detail about Virendra Dev Dixit being thrown out?
