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Re: Why I Cannot Believe in the Brahma Kumaris' 5,000 Years

17 Jan 2013

I noticed that the original scientific paper did say "may" but that it was reported more sensationalistically by the press. Thank you for clarifying that. Indeed often the press is to be blamed but, although I agree that official scientific publications are usually more cautious in their ...

Re: Pre- & Post-BK experiences of God compared with BK ones

16 Jan 2013

How do you know you aren't still doing BK meditation? No God, no Shiva, no Baba, no point of light, no "I am a soul", no focusing on the forehead, no Soul World, no Subtle Regions, no heaven, no Murli points ... After I came to the conclusion that God was most likely a creation of human m...

Re: Pre- & Post-BK experiences of God compared with BK ones

15 Jan 2013

I guess I'd have to ask, 'what' worked... For many contemplative yogis the experience of peace and bliss is worth more than material wealth, physical comforts and most of what science can provide. If their practice can bring them what they value most it works for them. I am one such yogi. I quit pr...

Re: Why I Cannot Believe in the Brahma Kumaris' 5,000 Years

15 Jan 2013

ex-l, I do not dispute that not everything in science requires a leap of faith and that it has produced and continues to produce useful results. Do not misinterpret me, I am glad of the progress of science and that it helped demystify some of the religious non-sense. Religious beliefs or practices h...
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Re: Patzcuaro: Money and the BKWSU

14 Jan 2013

I have never been personally asked to give money. I could not anyway have donated more than I already was. But we were often COLLECTIVELY asked to contribute. I heard it from Dadi Janki, from regional coordinators, national coordinators, local coordinators, retreat centres coordinators, in newslette...

Re: BKWSU withholds history research to accuse us of antagon

14 Jan 2013

However, there still remains a very powerful spiritual/psychic aspect to the BKWSU. It is an enigma, that alternately baffles, fascinates, and horrifies me. Contemplative, mystical, spiritual and psychic experiences are not unique to the BKs. They abound in many different traditions, cultures and b...

Re: BKWSU withholds history research to accuse us of antagon

14 Jan 2013

If you truly spiritually evolve, and refuse to become part of their game, you become allergic to to it ... and have to run. I do not know if it is a matter of being spiritually evolved. I'd say it is a matter of integrity. What is false, or promotes falsehood, cannot be "high" (elevated) ...
bkti-pit

Re: Cold detachment

14 Jan 2013

bkti-pit: I always had reservations about the "love for the Father and none other" instruction, even in the height of my indoctrination. I always felt - and still do, in fact I feel absolutely sure about this - that true love (spiritual love) is universal and unconditional, and is for all...
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Patzcuaro: Money and the BKWSU

14 Jan 2013

II was never, never, asked or even suggested to give any money, land or free labour. This is hard to believe, unless you remained on the fringe. I have been around for 30 years and every Center I ever visited, whether in Asia, Europe or America had at least one donation box well in sight, if not ma...

Re: Why I Cannot Believe in the Brahma Kumaris' 5,000 Years

13 Jan 2013

They had to look at the over 6 billion letters of DNA for each person over and over again (22 times!) to rule out any technical mistakes. This is astonishing, considering that if examining one single letter of DNA required only a second it would take that person 190 years to examine the 6 billion o...

Re: Why I Cannot Believe in the Brahma Kumaris' 5,000 Years

13 Jan 2013

Thanks for that video ex-l. Pretty cool and fascinating but it underlines the fact that we know very little, that the scientific theories about human origins are based on fragments, not to mention that, despite the fact that it is an extraordinary discovery, it does not explain or prove the evolutio...

Re: BKWSU withholds history research to accuse us of antagon

12 Jan 2013

I agree with you that ultimately the responsibility lies with BapDada. For the longest time I faithfully followed his advice not to be bothered by the wrongs I noticed within his organization and trust him that he would fix it all, until it became impossible for me to not hear the distress calls of ...
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Re: Cold detachment

12 Jan 2013

Hi Wonieka! Thanks for your contribution to the forum. I read all your posts and can relate to most of what you say. Howiemac rightly pointed out that BapDada has been teaching about being "detached and loving". BapDada however also underlines that one should have love "for the Father...
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Re: End of The World ... One week to go !

12 Jan 2013

It is very hard to read your posts arzu_468 when you write in coded language. It seems that what you are saying is a simple reflection / interpretation of BK beliefs on karma and The Cycle of time that you are trying to present as facts. Personally I realized, after educating myself on this forum, t...

Re: BKWSU withholds history research to accuse us of antagon

12 Jan 2013

I object when Jayanti (in the past) and Neville (in the past and now) are put down for the vaguest of reasons. I first stumbled on this website when I was looking for E Romain's report on the child abuse at the BK headquarters. Have you read it? I was shocked to learn that the young victim was basi...
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