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Re: Brahma Kumaris: Destroying Families, Disturbing Family L

05 Oct 2020

ex-l wrote:Recently they distributed nearly 7 kilos of gold to 2500 surrender Sisters of the institution and this all is off the record

Hmmm, I wonder if this is used to directly or indirectly bribe officials who otherwise might want to investigate the corruption they are now part of?

Re: Can you help with a research survey on cults?

26 Sep 2020

I filled in the survey. Took longer than 10 minutes for me. I suggest it is worthwhile. The BKs are not as bad as some groups but a lot of what some groups enforce physically the BKs do more subtly through social coercion, hierarchical politics, peer pressure, group dynamics, what is approved and di...
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Re: Alternate spiritual movements

26 Sep 2020

"Trust in God, but tie your camel down". It means, you can believe in whatever you like ... but don't forget to do all the practical things in life. These days I trust in the camel and tie God down - to one thing. If someone uses the word ”god”, can it be replaced with the word ”Life” or ...

Re: We are the Anaryans of Legend. Allegedly.

10 Sep 2020

I think a lot of it is the need to be both exceptional and validated for being exceptional. So if I can aggregate a whole bunch of highfalutin ideas, and work out some kind of self-supporting circular logic to come up with a ”theory” or interpretation that’s new, I am therefore exceptional, a genius...

Re: We are the Anaryans of Legend. Allegedly.

09 Sep 2020

Hahahaha! What a nut job! She'd probably be considered a serviceable soul because she makes the BK ideas seem much more plausible. The Annunaki she mentions were the gods of ancient Sumeria (Mesopotamia, Babylon) and they feature in a text even older than the Rig Veda, the story of Gilgamesh. A good...
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Re: Voice of the Silence

07 Sep 2020

The most famous of the novels by Phillip Pullman is the ”The Golden Compass” ( also published as ”Northern Lights” in some places). It is in the first in a series called ”His Dark Materials” which sees a young child heroine, Lyra, who later has to find her way through portals to parallel universes t...
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Re: Voice of the Silence

05 Sep 2020

This is the next generation ruling by proxy while paying lip service to "hierarchy", which, BTW, literally means rule based on seniority

Re: Brahma Kumaris Fighting over Family Properties & Wills A

01 Sep 2020

Like many so-called spiritual organisations, the BKs are so caught up with teaching ”the highest” morality they forget that anything high has to be built on something basic. You cannot ignore basic human decency, the golden rule found in all cultures - do unto others as you would have done to you - ...

Re: Brahma Kumaris Fighting over Family Properties & Wills A

31 Aug 2020

a local survey conducted by social service organisations ... found that ... 30-40% willed substantial amounts of their estates to their carers, and often all of it. I should have gone on to say that many of these carers really did work long and hard caring for the person, often at all hours in emer...

Re: Brahma Kumaris Fighting over Family Properties & Wills A

30 Aug 2020

Such manipulation of the elderly and attempts to acquire the property of the deceased has been going on since the concept of ”property” was invented! A venerated tradition to exploit the vulnerable venerable!!! The reason the Roman Catholic church brought in the rule of compulsory celibacy for all o...

Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

26 Aug 2020

There’s still a major fascination, hence market demand, for the exotic outer forms (appearances) of ”spirituality”. Take for example the recently deceased Baba Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) who was one of those hugely instrumental in introducing eastern philosophical idea to popular culture in the 1960s...

Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

25 Aug 2020

Good old trick - know that those who are coming to you are open to what you have to say (they came because they want) and give examples of the various kinds of experiences such seekers would have had or know about, then you seem to them to be, like, wow, this guy knows about this stuff! He stole the...
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Re: Hawala: A Parallel Economy

13 Aug 2020

It’s reported here on this forum somewhere. Maybe I heard it from someone and shared it here? Not sure. I remember it because it involved a guy whom I met and knew back in the early 1980s, his name was Gopal. I always distrusted him, always something sleazy and shifty about him. Like he ran some rac...
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Re: Hawala: A Parallel Economy

12 Aug 2020

I remember many BKs taking cash to Madhuban. Often it was broken up and shared among a group of travellers i.e a number of people each taking smaller sums rather one person with a big lump sum, probably for legal reasons usually to do with how much someone can take out of a country rather than bring...
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Re: The Story of Virendra Dev Dixit

06 Aug 2020

Very interesting point as that would leave none, as there is no yardstick for proof..none that I know of. How about this: Recruit a group of 10 desperately poor and hungry people, they will attend the experiment every day. Recruit a group of 10 believers from various religions. Recruit a group of 1...
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