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Re: Marc Fourcade Alpha Point Meditation and Leadership

12 Apr 2013

On the other hand, ..... It can be either/or. it can be both. It may be something else , or a combination ... it is what it is. I am glad I asked the questions for you have supplied very well-considered responses. Interesting that it was this aspect, of people making it a business, over and above t...

Re: Marc Fourcade Alpha Point Meditation and Leadership

08 Apr 2013

A good reply. Thanks for taking a couple of days to think about it and answer soberly (and with wit and charm). I have only short time now, maybe more later... Q. The broader question becomes "when does one cease being a BK?" A. The potion/poison, one always remains changed by it. I am thi...

Re: Cult control and Brainwashing: "Doctrine over Person"

08 Apr 2013

Good catch indeed! The problem lies not so much in using such methods to create new consciousness, much of this could be interpreted as ways of preparing minds for learning, or as used by shamans and tantrics etc. It is a problem when it is used to colonise and exploit the person, making them depend...
Pink Panther

Re: Taped speeches of Lekhraj Kripalani.

04 Apr 2013

leonard wrote:Back in late 1980's or early 1990's time, such tapes were retrieved from some cupboard and a Western film Brother was asked to copy them and write out their content.

He'd have to be quite adept at Hindi, and Sindi/Urdu, surely?

Re: Alpha Point Meditation and Leadership

04 Apr 2013

It's when individuals are critiqued here that I get a little wary. I knew both Marc and Carol; both were genuine, both seeking to make their way through life, both aware of the failings of the BKWSU, looking for what they could find in its teachings that work. Carol herself went through a number of ...

Re: Feel Like I Wasted My Life - but it's not all bad!

04 Apr 2013

TrueLife Thanks for sharing those insights (ngungkari or kaidaichi) into a spiritual tradition that goes back the equivalent of over ten BK kalpas! It may be for another topic, but I for one would appreciate learning more about the Australian aboriginal culture and spirituality. It offers such a fre...
Pink Panther

Re: Taped speeches of Lekhraj Kripalani.

04 Apr 2013

My understanding was that only some were taped, it was not done systematically, and there are not that many. Not sure though. There were some of "Mama" as well as of "Baba". I heard part of each years ago. Without understanding the language, cannot really comment - sounded like n...
Pink Panther

Re: Learn Meditation Online.Org

03 Apr 2013

Do you have any comments about the nature of LearnMeditationOnline.Org? Had a quick look. Fits their MO. Pretend to be a vague, New Age spirituality, a loose group of free thinking positivists. A few hints that there is more for those who are "genuine" in going deeper. BKs are mentioned a...
Pink Panther

Re: Mr. Kirpalani and Krishna, a strange twist

03 Apr 2013

Misty, I agree with ex-l. That teacher does not understand the Gyan. In fact, I'd say he/she sounds irrational and probably a little mentally unhinged (or possibly merely ignorant). But then again, ex-l, it does seem that the Gyan, as it is being so frequently revised, is now more likely to be inter...
Pink Panther

Re: Mythomania

03 Apr 2013

The way loyal pseudo-thinking BKs rationalise this is to say the changes are due to a constant " refining " of The Knowledge, because Shiva does not actually "speak" - has no language - but that the "explanation" came through Lekhraj, it was him working it out over time...

Re: Disassociating general meditation practice from BK metho

02 Apr 2013

So I'd like to be able to do other meditations but find I am blocked from doing so. I went through that phase. I just did other things that were beneficial in terms of awareness - creative activity and reflections etc - and getting on with things I'd always wanted to do. But getting back into medit...
Pink Panther

Re: Buddhist Monks

02 Apr 2013

Janki has better understanding of English than she lets on - hearing more than speaking though. The problem is not so much monastic life in itself, or celibacy in itself. It is the expectation of someone continuing with it when they really shouldn't. Usually that expectation is linked to some idea t...
Pink Panther

Re: Learn Meditation Online.Org

02 Apr 2013

I am sorry to be absolutely blunt but I consider the spirit of the BKs to be a parasite (which you can understand as their group spirit or their god spirit) and the Brahma Kumaris to be parasitical that is to say, they feed off others and society. Indeed! Well said. All groups have a group "sp...
Pink Panther

Re: Buddhist Monks

02 Apr 2013

The institutionalising of "spirituality" with its inherent pressure to conform will inevitably lead to individuals becoming perverted - in the literal sense "having been corrupted or distorted from an original course, meaning, or state" . Institutionalising the personal leads to ...
Pink Panther

Re: Why Celibacy ..??

01 Apr 2013

At least they are dealing with it honestly and realistically.
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