What is your sadhana?

This information will be used by Him. And also it is He who inspires me to do all this stuff. I personally prefer to sit in a meditation all day rather playing this role. But it not depends on my will any more.

Have you ever considered that it could be another soul trying to influence you and not Shiva?

1.ISKCON do not believe in 5,000 years of World Drama. Do you believe in 5,000 years of the World Drama?
2.Do you believe that the ultimate reality could be traced in Murlis & Avyakt Vanis? Or study of Ved-Shashras is also essential? According to you which topics should be accepted from Murlis & which from Ved-Shashras?
3.According to you, which Murli points are not correct?

Om Shanti.
1. Yes I do.
2. Yes I think it could be traced. Honestly, I think that now the main practic should be deep meditation. Because time of destruction will come within 5 years as I suppose. Murlis are for pre destruction period and Vedic knowledge maybe usefull during creating Golden Age society.
3. Don't know exactly, if you quote any I can express my opinion.

With regards, Shankar

Hi Shankar, In your last sentence you say that:

you personally prefer to sit in a meditation all day rather playing this role. But it not depends on your will any more.

What am i to understand from this? Are you saying that you are being utilised by some entity against your will, but that you are learning how to reconcile yourself to this situation?
Are there ever any more noteworthy conflicts in needs/agenda between yourself and the one whose will you do? My earlier outstanding questions are: Shankar, how would you begin to serve us? Tell us of our need of you?
regards
abek

Have you ever considered that it could be another soul trying to influence you and not Shiva?

Om Shanti. Where you've been for so long? Nope. My sociotype in this birth is Robespier(Analitic) if you know something about socionic. In to words I have the most analitic tipe of mind among 16 sociotypes. So I thought hard about all this for a long period. Too much facts that it is Him. Also recently I met Reiki teacher. She can see aura and also those who are not good (spirits etc). She did not see any bad signs. If she see something wrong with person she won't give him initiation. I got 2 initiation.

With regards, Shankar.

1.What am I to understand from this?
2.Are you saying that you are being utilised by some entity against your will, but that you are learning how to reconcile yourself to this situation?
3.Shankar, how would you begin to serve us? Tell us of our need of you?

Om Shanti.
1. You can understand whatever you want, for me it doesn't matter. I answered to ex-l.
2. Not against my will, but I've got an offer with only one choice. I couldn't reject it because it is very temting and because I have brains. To play this role even in a detached observer stage is outstanding.
3. I suppose nohow. Deside yourself.

Shankar

Have you ever considered that it could be another soul trying to influence you and not Shiva?

Om Shanti. Where you've been for so long?

I have been travelling the UK on holiday

Too much facts that it is Him.

But, what facts?
You do know The Knowledge of the entity/spirit on BK matters is very limited, which any BK could pick up in months.

She can see aura and also those who are not good (spirits etc). She did not see any bad signs. If she see something wrong with person she won't give him initiation. I got 2 initiation.

But, that is no indication it is Shiva, it may be a benign spirit or a BK that has left the body.

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1.What am I to understand from this?
2.Are you saying that you are being utilised by some entity against your will, but that you are learning how to reconcile yourself to this situation?
3.Shankar, how would you begin to serve us? Tell us of our need of you?

Om Shanti.
1. You can understand whatever you want, for me it doesn't matter. I answered to ex-l.
2. Not against my will, but I've got an offer with only one choice. I couldn't reject it because it is very temting and because I have brains. To play this role even in a detached observer stage is outstanding.
3. I suppose nohow. Deside yourself.
Shankar

I apologise for butting my nose into a personal conversation. However just for the sake of keeping my mind active I observe the following:

"an offer with only one choice" - is that like an order which must be obeyed?

"I couldn't reject it because it is very tempting and because I have brains" - Is this to say that your assessment is that you will personally benefit from accpeting this command that you received?

Your answer to the third does not compute with me, but no problem as you said.

Thanks

1."an offer with only one choice" - is that like an order which must be obeyed?
2."I couldn't reject it because it is very temting and because I have brains" -
3.Is this to say that you peresonally will benefit from the accpetance of this command that you received?

1.Don't perceive it literally. 2 sentense explains why there is only one choice.
3. Of course I will. For me it is enough only to see how all this will happen (destruction, creation etc).

With regards, Shankar

1. Too much facts that it is Him.
But, what facts?
2. But, that is no indication it is Shiva, it may be a benign spirit or a BK that has left the body.

Om Shanti.

2. It is not indication it is Shiva, but it is indication that it is not a bad one. As for BK. Who want to play such a joke and who have abilities to do it?
1.Also I wrote

So when did the spirit called Shiva enter you?

Om Shanti. Don't know exactly maybe it had happen before but first time I realized it in september 2006.

I was on a BK festival in Moskow. Dadi Gulzar visited that festival. So one day on a morning Murli I was sitting in a class and doing meditation. And when I looked to a picture of BB in oder to get drishti through it, I did not feel anything. Then I tryed to go to Subtle and to concentrate on BB there - no way. Then I tryed to go to Paramdham and also couldn't concentrate.

From this time it began to happen regularaly. For example, I start to do Yoga; go to Subtle, visualise BB, emagine like Shiva enters him and everything goes OK. But suddenly everything stops. I cannot visualise, cannot concentrate and in the next moment again I can do it easy. So I started to think hard of that issue. And some thoughts about BB, Gulzar, Shankar, Vishnu etc came into my mind. I realized that there must be 3-D instrument, by whom Heaven will be practically created. And also that parallel between Vishnu and Gulzar + BB appeared in my mind. There was many another thoughts.

So step by step after I realized that He enters that body I finally returned to a more or less calm stage of mind. But in the beginning it was shock. You cannot even emagine what a shock it was.

With regards, Shankar

I am the new vehicle for the spirit of Jazz.

2. It is not indication it is Shiva, but it is indication that it is not a bad one. As for BK. Who want to play such a joke and who have abilities to do it?

But, still you haven't given any answer to suggest that it is Shiva. OK, you had some thoughts about BB, Gulzar and an instrument, but really that means nothing as regards Shiva using you as a Chariot. Does the spirit call itself Shiva or is that just a name you have given to it?

And when I looked to a picture of BB in oder to get drishti through it, I did not feel anything. Then I tryed to go to Subtle and to concentrate on BB there - no way. Then I tried to go to Paramdham and also couldn't concentrate.

That is just a regular occurrance, I don't see how it makes you any different.

1. Does the spirit call itself Shiva or is that just a name you have given to it?
2. That is just a regular occurrence, I don't see how it makes you any different.

Om Shanti.

1. There was no "Shivoham, Shivoham" as with BB. But as for me I have no doubt it is Him. As for you I think you'll figure out what is happening with me and whether all I am saying is true or not in the nearest future. I cannot and don't want to give you any scientific proofs, because you can realize Father through His words. He will speak sooner or later.
2. For me it wasn't a regular occurance. I had no problems with remembrance untill this moment. Also there was some tremor of that body after which I couldn't remember him. I can remember - little tremor - I cannot - some time after I try again and everything is OK (love, peace, happiness).

So for me there is no doubt.

With regards, Shankar

Om Shanti. Previous posts of this topic were off topic indeed. I want to come back to the beginning.

So once again, let us share about our spiritual schedual of the day.

I think it will be usefull. Details are most welcome. We are all different, but I suppose that there are common things in our spiritual practices which may be useful for everyone. We can make up a universal teaching book with the basis of spirituality in it. But first of all we should share our experience.

With best wishes, Shankar

Om Shanti. I guess previous post was written when I was under illusion. God will say to you what to do and what you will have if you will do this. He doesn't need any advice in such questions as: what to do in order to become pure. So it will be up to you do or not, believe or not.

With regards, Shankar