What is your sadhana?

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What is your sadhana?

Post02 Sep 2007

Om Shanti. As there are a lot of different people here from different groups, I wonder what kind of spiritual practice you are using now? If you do. We can find out some common moments which will be useful for everyone. So please share.
    1. What principles do you follow (vegetarian, brahmacharya etc) or maybe principles are not so important?
    2. How your day is going (get up - go asleep)?
    3. Meditation? Asanas? Thinking? Something else?
    4. Also you can tell about aim of your present life.
With regards, Shankar

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Re: What is your sadhana?

Post02 Sep 2007

BKdimok wrote:As there are a lot of different people here from different groups

And amidst these groups, you've added a new group of yourself!
I wonder what kind of spiritual practice you are using now?

I also wonder what kind of spiritual practise you are using now? Your method of spiritual practise must be more wonderful than all of us, as you are the Great Chariot of the Supreme Father - ShivBaba. Please let us know your spiritual practise in details. And why ShivBaba has chosen you as his Chariot instead of me??? What's difference between spiritual practise of you & other BKWSU members?
If you do. We can find out some common moments which will be useful for everyone. So please share.

Yes my Brother, let's share our experiences of our spiritual path. First of all, what are your experiences?
1. What principles do you follow (vegetarian, brahmacharya etc) or maybe principles are not so important?

What about your principles?
2. How your day is going (get up - go asleep)?

And how your day is going (get up - asleep)?
3. Meditation? Asanas? Thinking? Something else?

How do you meditate? Please quote a sample of the commentary of your meditation. Are you in favour of various phisical Aasanas like Padmaasan for practise of RajYoga? What is your mode of thinking? And more info about your spiritual path.
4. Also you can tell about aim of your present life.

Let us know your aim of life.

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Post02 Sep 2007

new knowledge wrote:1. Also wonder what kind of spiritual practise you are using now?
2. Your method of spiritual practise must be more wonderful than all of us, as you are the Great Chariot of the Supreme Father - ShivBaba. Please let us know your spiritual practise in details.
3. And why ShivBaba has chosen you as his Chariot instead of me???
4. What's difference between spiritual practise of you & other BKWSU members?
5. What about your principles?
6. And how your day is going (get up - asleep)?
7. How do you meditate? Please quote a sample of the commentary of your meditation. Are you in favour of various phisical Aasanas like Padmaasan for practise of RajYoga? What is your mode of thinking? And more info about your spiritual path.
8. Let us know your aim of life.

Om Shanti. Here in Russia a statement is often used: initiative punishable. So I take your punishment.
    1. All my practice aimed to become a detached observer. So I am learning to stay in a soul conscious stage in any situation. We cannot describe this stage by words exactly. The most common is that I realise that this body differs from me.
    2. If you remember BB wasn't doing any specilal practise before he became Chariot. In spite of he had 11 gurus. He just prayed to his deity Narayan and studied Bhagavat Gita.
    3. Indeed he did not chose me. He just entered this body in accordance with Drama. He have no choice, because He don't need choice. He do only those things which are in the Drama. I don't know why this body instead of yours.
    4. I don't do meditation a lot now. I was doing it much before. Maybe I will do it a lot in the future when I will have alot of free time..
    5. Vegetarian, brahmacharia, ahimsa are the main one.
    6. Now I am living in a Temple, so I follow Temple programms.
      2-4 - Get up
      4:30 - Mangala arati
      5-7:15 - japa meditation(I am not participating in it)
      7:15 - Welcoming of deityes and Guru puja
      8:00 - Lecture of Shrimat Bhagavatam
      20-23 - get asleep
    7. Usually I am going to the Subtle Region in my thoughts. I' m trying to do it in spite of doing something(in any time)
    8. My main im of this life is to become full detached observer in order to not disturb Baba in his mission.
Now is your turn to share
With regards, Shankar

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Post03 Sep 2007

Okay. I think you've gone through both ISKCON & BKWSU. Am I right?

How do you compare ISKCON with BKWSU? Which is superior for you? Philosophies of both cults don't match with each other. Simultaneously you are member of both cults, so how do you adjust yourself with these conflicting cults - ISKCON & BKWSU?

It's stated in Murli that Bharat (India) is the birth place of the Father - ShivBaba, then it's going very hard for me to accept that he incarnates in Russia.

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Post03 Sep 2007

new knowledge wrote:1. Okay. I think you've gone through both ISKCON & BKWSU. Am I right?
2. How do you compare ISKCON with BKWSU? Which is superior for you? Philosophies of both cults don't match with each other. Simultaneously you are member of both cults, so how do you adjust yourself with these conflicting cults - ISKCON & BKWSU?
3.It's stated in Murli that Bharat (India) is the birth place of the Father - ShivBaba, then it's going very hard for me to accept that he incarnates in Russia.

Om Shanti.
    1. You are right. I was practising RajYoga for 3 years and now I am living in a Hare Krishna Temple for 8 months.
    2. BKs are too detached from this world. They are thinking how to become perfect rather how to change this world practically. It's OK, but now there is time to figure out how the Golden Age will be established in a practical way. But ISKCON members are more materialistic. The main guna here is Rajas (among ordinary vaishnavas). Philosophies don't match but it does not matter. The main are principles and devotion to God and His mission. I am simply taking all the best from both cults.
    3. For me too. I was in a shock for about month when all this started. But first Chariot of God (BB) is from Bharat, so the birth place is Bharat. Also this territory (where I stay now) also will be a part of Bharat.
With regards, Shankar
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Post03 Sep 2007

BKdimok wrote:I am simply taking all the best from both cults.

Free vegetarian food ... somewhere to stay ...
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taking supports. who me? it couldn't be, well then is who

Post03 Sep 2007

ex-l wrote:Free vegetarian food ... somewhere to stay ...

Reminds me of lovely times being supported by hare Krishna food. the whole experience was a wonderful one for me.
ex-l sharp as ever.
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Post03 Sep 2007

I always a great believer in eating one's way to enlightenment ... there was a good energy to their prashad.
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Post03 Sep 2007

ex-l wrote:I always a great believer in eating one's way to enlightenment ... there was a good energy to their prashad.

Very, very good. I always felt wholesome when i ate their food. Have you tried their desserts? Yummy. I was invited to a Monday evening on which all they served was sweets.

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Post03 Sep 2007

ex-l wrote:Free vegetarian food ... somewhere to stay ...

Om Shanti. There is nothing free in this world. I pay for prasadam. And also I do service.

Shankar

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Post03 Sep 2007

Bro BKdimok, as for BKWSU, the Murli is base, so is Shrimad Bhagwad Gita for ISKCON. Both are contradictory. Would you like to combine Murli of BKWSU with Shrimad Bhagwad Gita of ISKCON?

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Post03 Sep 2007

new knowledge wrote:Would you like to combine Murli of BKWSU with ShrimadBhagwadGita of ISCON?

Om Shanti. I don't want to combine anything. All I want is to become a detached observer. But as for Murli and Shrimad Bhagavatam I think it won't be nessesary for God to combine this knowledge. In my experience, there is some sense in Vedic knowledge (all these gunas, ashrams, varnas etc.) but I suppose it won't be useful in the Golden Age as well as BK's knowledge. I think that I am here to realise that indeed Bhakti is not good or bad. It just exists now and it starts from 3-D yuga. Also the BK's knowledge is only for that Confluence Age in order to achieve deity sanskars. But there are a lot of practical things in this type of Bhakti (ISKCON) which may be useful in creating of Golden Age practically.

With regards, Shankar.

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Post03 Sep 2007

ISKCON do not believe in 5,000 years of World Drama. Do you believe in 5,000 years of the World Drama?

Do you believe that the ultimate reality could be traced in Murlis & Avyakt Vanis? Or study of Ved-Shashras is also essential? According to you which topics should be accepted from Murlis & which from Ved-Shashras?

According to you, which Murli points are not correct?

Please reply in details.
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Post03 Sep 2007

I actually think that for Western BKs, doing time in ISKCON is a very good thing to introduce them to the Vaishnavite Vedic culture that would have been very familiar to Lekhraj Kirpalani and his followers, the language, the original religious concepts and books, and in a living environment. So much more relevant than all this corporate consultant stuff. The particular order that ISKCON follows is a sort of Hindu fundamental revivalist movement dated back 500 years or so.

Its a bit of a shame the two groups are not closer but largely impossible because of the big stick of Gyan. You are definitely heading off towards Vishnu Party territory if you are trying to combine the two.

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Post03 Sep 2007

ex-l wrote:1.I actually think that for Western BKs, doing time in ISKCON is a very good thing to introduce them to the Vaishnavite Vedic culture that would have been very familiar to Lekhraj Kirpalani and his followers, the language, the original religious concepts and books, and in a living environment.
2.You are definitely heading off towards Vishnu Party territory if you are trying to combine the two.
Om Shanti.
1. I suppose this is one of the main aims of my present in this organization.
2. I am not trying to combine anything. I am just collecting different information from different places in oder to figure out full picture of the Golden Age creating. This information will be used by Him. And also it is He who inspires me to do all this stuff. I personally prefer to sit in a meditation all day rather playing this role. But it not depends on my will any more.

With regards, Shankar
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