"Dead" Woman found in BK Center

Anytime ex-l and Arjun Bhai combo comes up with some thing together, it just looks like its a joint effort ...

Dear Brother,

Omshanti. Due to lack of time I have reduced my participation to a great extent on this forum.

It is not very often that you find me supporting ex-l. Even if I support him, it is on the basis of Murli/Avyakt Vani points. But in spite of that if you feel that I and ex-l are hands-in-glove with each other planning to defame the BKs, then its your sweet perception. I have hardly ever exchanged any email with ex-l in the last many years. In fact, due to lack of time, I hardly have any private exchange of mails with members of this forum. The only person whom I invited to the PBK mini-Madhubans was BK Pari, that too on the xbkchat forum when she had publicly announced her plan to visit Madhuban and also the PBKs.

I have never invited either the Admin. of this forum or ex-l or any other Member to visit the mini-Madhubans/Gitapathshalas of PBKs with an intention to influence them to become PBKs. Whatever I wish to communicate to others I do it through this forum. I correspond with Members only when they write to me. I never take the initiative to write mails to anyone to get their support or to propagate the Advanced Knowledge.

Anyways, I wish you good luck.
Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

Thank you arjun. What arjun says is true. I am actually very grateful for the pukka Murli points. Sometimes it confirms to me that I am not wrong because even the god of the BKs thinks or say the same as I do.

My feeling is that many of the gross problems we relate here are because not enough attention is given to the Murlis and the BK appear to have forgotten them in their rush to modernise and expand. The problem is made worse by the monopoly and secrecy exercised over them by the Brahma Kumaris. If we only had them in one big database to search instantly, like here or here, then BKs would be able to find their bearings better.

We know the BK world fairly well and to keep hammering it on and on with issues like the snake biting, Baba's protection, some Brother who left his wife because the center in charge told him so and stuff is like hearing stories from an old woman in the courtyard in India ...

Largely, my thoughts are not for "us" but for non-BKs who might become newcomers to the BK world where pre-warned is pre-armed. Hopefully if they read it all here, they will avoid repeating it all over again.

We do know but I want to serve them putting it all in one, easy to find place. Let others make up their own minds at their own speed. Help them progress much faster. Folks need to stop living in an illusion. I do not think you can argue against that.

as far as I know, ShivBaba (through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) has never encouraged PBKs (especially whose family does not follow the PBK path) to shun their families. Instead He always asks them to take care of their families first.

A similar question was raised in the Disc.CD No.438. The extracts of the same are produced below:
Disc.CD No.438, dated 11.11.07 at Bombay

Time: 18.50-22.40
A student said: Baba I have been facing more obstacles in purity from the stage of basic knowledge itself.
Baba said: Yes, please.
The student asked: So, how can I pass in (the subject of) purity? Now I will have to leave the household.
Baba said: ‘I will have to leave the household’ – It means you would be compelled to.
The student: Yes.
Baba said: (The words that) “I will adopt the path of sanyasis (ascetics).” What does it prove?
The student asked: What should I do?
Baba said: No, if this thought emerges in the mind that I will certainly have to adopt the path of sanyasis; it is a firm decision. (The student said something) On which path does Baba want to take us? (Someone said something) Hm? You should pass. So, be firm: we will certainly pass. We will not adopt the path of sanyasis. We will not adopt the path of sanyasis. Is the path of sanyasis a path of cowardice or is the path on which the householders learn Rajyog from God and gain victory over the vices while living in a household, a firm path? (Someone said something) So, should we become fugitives (bhagodey)? That is why it is said ‘dharat pariye par dharam na chodiye ( you may fall dead on the ground, but you should not change your religion)

For the holy men (sadhus and sanyasis) it has been said: who is Ravan? It would certainly be said that it is these Gurus. They show the opposite path. Leave the path of household. You will become pure. If someone leaves the household, (but if) the mind keeps running (i.e. getting attracted) there. Mind is the highest one above all the ten organs. Powerful. Will it allow the bodily organs to remain pure? Will the organs become pure? They cannot become conquerors of bodily organs (indrajeet) at all. The Father himself comes and makes us the conquerors of the bodily organs. So, He teaches us to control the mind. If you ran away from home, then there is no question of a test at all, because the vice of lust is the main one. You renounced that company itself. That is why the Father says: I come as the unlimited householder. So, the Father should become the most sinful one because he is the unlimited householder. Then why does he remain ever pure? Why do children talk loosely? They do not do what they are supposed to do. They should wake up at Amrit Vela everyday and become firm in the first thing. There should not be any other work or occupation. What? I am a soul. All kinds of vices come only when body consciousness emerges. Among them the vice of lust is the main one.

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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.

Among them the vice of lust is the main one.

This may be an odd query but how does/did God (ShivBaba) know this ?