paulkershaw wrote:Or perhaps why channeling, as such within the BKWSU, is only permitted by the one or two who do so, or maybe if everyone 'did' it, the regular class members may just download more info than the BKWSU could handle and take energy away from the current teachings. "Hey Sista - Look at the light, look at the light, do not think anything else than what you have been taught, etc ... all other things do not exist, only what we teach is is the truth ... " blah blah blah.
That's an interesting thought. Considering the ramifications of the channelings conducted by the BKWSU’s mediums so far, The Supreme Soul seems to only be able to acquire the language capacity of the corporeal mediums It uses. This appears to also limit the frame of reference in which the Supreme Soul can communicate and understand information; this makes The SS limited to certain language.
NLP was developed from the frame of reference that we humans each have our own neuro (brain) language and chemistry for interpretation of and communication with reality and its inhabitants. Language not only of words, but of modalities; color, sound, size, imagery, physical sensations, etc. If The SS is limited to oral language, does it mean that The SS is also limited to the brain language of the (duh) mediums It goes into?
2 angles appear to me now. The scary angle is The Supreme Soul Shiva really is The Supreme Soul Shiva and that all the imperfections within the Chariots and the BKWSU is not just acceptable but a must have do to the limited neuro linguistic and problem solving capacities of the human chariots The Supreme Soul Shiva has access to.
Now in regards to past predictions of the date of Destruction (the unforgiving mistake of Gyan), I want to share an explanation that could make some ex-BKs go back to the BKs.
I have had the opportunity to see the future (vision of the future) during a trance state. It was when I had a near death experience. The way it worked, in my experience at least, is that the future is shown in a flash as clear as a conscious dream and it is determined by the current situation of relevant forces. If important variables from the present reality are changed, say someone's will or belief for example, the vision becomes invalid.
This could explain Brahma Baba's problems with predictions; the limiting skills of the Chariot, in regards to interpreting the whole truth and relaying detailed information before and even after the false prediction. In my experience, I was guided to understand that the visions of the future could be changed, and I was also informed how to do this during my trance session. BB may or may have been informed about this fact of his future vision.
Brahma Baba has lied to his children at least in one aspect of Gyan, according to one of the Avyakt Murlis right after his corporeal death, where he said, before he said there was no Subtle Region but it does actually exist. He also said he lied for the good of the children. This shows some of the moral language Bap Dada, in regards to Brahma Baba’s moral language, uses to interpret and communicate things; lying is acceptable for the greater good.
Perhaps, as with all religions, this was for the benefit of exoteric Gyan, where as only the inner circle of the BKWSU was given the esoteric truth (or not).
The other angle I see is that, I think someone above mentioned this, "Who knows what is really being channeled?" There are accounts of cases where people supposedly possessed by demons were first told by the personalities that possessed them, that the possessor was an Angel of God. And, of course, there are some possessed who say they were possessed by God.
So where's the beef? We can, I have done this in the past, create an alter ego and will it to control our body and mind, for a period of time at least. A technique used by some practitioners of alchemy and white magic to represent a death of the old self and a new spiritual transformation and identity. This creation or conjuration is usually a psychological creation or isolation. It can be called God, or Shiva, or Lindsay Lohan, but where is the proof that it really is who it claims to be? Again, as with the first angle, the proof of the possessing personality could be limited to the skills and language of the one it possesses.
To summarize; perhaps the BKWSU is channeling the One Supreme Ocean of Infinite Knowledge, and that The Ocean is limited by the neuro linguistic language and psychological and psychic skills of the medium. If this is true, I see no possible way it can be proven that The Supreme Soul Shiva is who it says it is. Not only that! Everything that The Supreme Soul Shiva says, all of Gyan, is in some way limited and could even be violently flawed! So for the whole truth and nothing but the truth, we are going to have to look else where.
However if the Supreme Soul Shiva is right, there is no where else to look. Everything is too corrupted! What a horrible reality this could be. Ah, this was the seed emotional feeling I had when I left Gyan, I just never put it into words before. So if the greatest and most profound truth we humans in this time can ever know is the extremely flawed and limited truth of The SS, people centered well in reality and demanding facts, common sense, logic and evidence are absolutely screwed!
The other side of the coin is that the BKWSU could be channeling something else, either another personality that exists or one that was created by BB and his children. If this is the case and we (I did) surrendered to it completely ...
In most types of Reiki, there are initiations required to progress. There are also rituals-ceremonies to renounce the initiation if the initiate ever decides to leave the energy. The renouncing ritual supposedly removes the psychic-energetic connection between the initiate and the master and energy acquired through the initiation. A personal ceremony of this sort might be something one would be interested in doing if they desperately wanted to separate from the psychic-energetic bond that lasts even after leaving Gyan.
I worked my hienie off while in the BKWSU and there are a lot of good fruits from my labor. It's not all good though. If I was to do a renouncing spell, I would be careful to word it so as not to renounce all the good things I have worked for and acquired from the BKWSU, real; character, knowledge, self awareness, etc and seemingly more fantastic fantasy with no supporting evidence and is probably not real; 99% corporeal immortality in the form of rebirths, going to the Golden Age, etc
(just to be safe).
Seemingly, there is no possible evidence that can supports The Supreme Soul Shiva is who It says It is if The Supreme Soul Shiva is truly limited to the language of It’s medium (or by Drama, as has been said). On the other hand the evidence (inconsistencies within Gyan and moral behavior of the BKs) does support the second angle of looking at things.
In the real world, where history has shown that blind faith has lead to countless disasters and the death of millions, maybe its time that as a people we accept the mystery that life is and just live with reason, common sense and the pursuit of more facts.
"Philosophy is masturbation of the mind" - Anonymous