Aim of the BKWSU ?

In need of a refresher course ...

Aim of the BKWSU ... what is it exactly ?

Is it to ensure all souls, or just a number of souls, in this world are introduced to and then recognise the form of Father Shiva, then accept the form of the one God Father Shiva, so that eventually destruction can start to happen, and then entire humanity and nature can be mashed into its elements and souls "return" home to Paramdham, so that the wheel can go round again ? Will ghosts and lingering spirits also go home at the same time?

"The world changes when we change". Who is "we"?
"Transform youself, transform the world". What exactly is being transformed?

Maybe not all humanity needs to be tranformed, only 916,108 (or in the Vishnu Party, 108 only needed). The rest of the world population just needs to recognise the form of Father Shiva, is that it ? Then what is the need for all these positive thinking course, SML, etc. The Christians have been pasting all over the place their symbol of God, the cross, for centuries.

In need of a refresher course ... Aim of the BKWSU ... what is it exactly ?

Everything happen according to Drama plan Sister, you are asking same as you asking 5000 years ago. No worry, no hurry, no curry.

It is easy Sister. Do not worry, it is Baba doing according to Drama plan Sister.

Sorry bansy.

I raised this post because if all that is needed is to show the Father to the world, why bother with all the pomp and courses, when a simple handing out of T-shirts or leaflets to all the souls in the world, and with BK God's power, will be able to bring souls to recognise the form of God instantly? If souls of humanity do not recognise the form of God, how can they return home, so how will destruction work, and so how will the wheel drama be correct ? Yes, there will be 916,108 souls who may lead the way, but the other few billion will need some sort of way to recognise who their Father is.

So this post is questioning what are the BKWSU actually trying to do? I am not too bothered about if there is an answer or not, just something this forum is allowing me to let out rather than keep in.

If you show a cross to almost every corner of the world, most folks will instantly recognise it to be the Cross of Christ, even non Christians. this is guesswork of course. But show a picture of Father Shiva ?

sorry

Not sure why you apologised but, whatever, thanks. But you're right, it is maybe all simple Drama. I've gone further and don't hold onto things or people as I actually do not expect to find any answers but its nice to often share and thrash out. I sometimes even re-read my own posts and see it in a totally different way the next time round. An inner churning and not necessarily Gyan itself.

I was just being courteous as I took your sensible question in a facetious manner. Whilst having having a laff I did not want to belittle what you were saying.

Bansy,

That is why I believe they don't have a God, Shiva or non-Shiva. If so many people are trying to experience peace, or a glimpse of God, why would He had to have build a cult, religion with so many rules (Shrimat), and years of waiting for a new world?

You know, BKs love to talk about Destruction, for some their lives suck, but the truth is; for most of them, their lives is beautiful, living off the money they collect from the followers, their comfort, trips and all ... so is just another group ,another ego trip ... .

Aim of the BKWSU ... what is it exactly?

Do you think it has lost it a little ... it seems to be just celibrating its glory days. Or at least all the leadership is.

for most of them, their lives are beautiful, living off the money they collect

Not most. A few. At least what was before and still may well be ... mundane becomes "supremely important". Individuals that for the most part are just ordinary, uneducated, untalented are elevated in their minds (but not the world's). Is its aim to control and extract money and regard by giving individuals a good feeling about themselves at increasing costs, not all financial? The benefit for the world is that a few of those individuals go off and teach kids values education classes ... but at the cost of injecting Shiva into their minds. The organization's aim is to inject Shiva into as many minds as possible, What is Shiva's aim in doing that?

Often, on the forum, we comment on how "The Path of Knowledge" is re-adopting or largely composed of Bhakti elements ... even they become "supremely important" too. Some how magically transformed because the knower "knows". It may just be new lanterns for old ... only time will tell. I who am nothing, no one, become all mighty wise ... a world benefactor. HUGE ... Narayan!!!

What is the aim? The aim of the Holy Ghosts, the aim of the leadership or the aim of individual BKs?

In my opinion, unconscious self-importance in too many cases ...

What proportion of rank and file BKs are motivated by sheer goodness and what proportion are caught up "acting out" (to use a psychological term) a role?

'Acting out' means literally means acting out the desires that are forbidden by the Super ego and yet desired by the Id. We thus cope with the pressure to do what we believe is wrong by giving in to the desire.

A person who is acting out desires may do it in spite of their conscience or may do it with relatively little thought. Thus the act may be being deliberately bad or may be thoughtless wrongdoing.

Where the person knows that they are doing wrong, they may seek to protect themselves from society's eyes by hiding their action. They may also later fall into using other coping mechanisms such as Denial to protect themselves from feelings of shame.

Sister Bansy,

Omshanti. Whatever the BKWSU may be doing in the eyes of the world now, but the aim of BKWSU (BKs) and AIVV (PBKs) two-pronged:

I. At Individual level:

- To get transformed from human beings to deities, i.e. to become complete in all the virtues; to become perfect in the 16 celestial degrees (degrees of soul consciousness according to PBKs and 16 arts acc. to BKs); to become completely viceless; double non-violent (not indulging either in physical violence or the violence of sex-lust); and to become Maryadas Purushottam (highest among all human beings in following the code of conduct, i.e. Shrimat).
- To become nashtomoha (one who has conquered attachment) smritilabdha (one who always remains in remembrance).
- To become karmateet (i.e. one who remains in the stage of detachment or soul consciousness while performing karma; as per Murlis karmateet stage also means a stage where the body does not experience any pain, does not commit any mistake in thoughts, words and deeds)

II. At world level:

- To reveal the Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiv in the world. To unite the entire world into one family. (For PBKs this would be under the sustenance of World Mother and Father, while for BKs it is unclear as to how/under whom they would unite the world).
- To transform this old world/hell/Iron Age into new world/heaven/Golden Age.
- To establish the Adi Sanatan Devi Devata Dharma (the ancient deity religion) in the entire world.
- To grant the inheritance of either mukti (salvation for varying duration, when the souls live in the Soul World) and jeevanmukti (true salvation, i.e. a stage of being free from vices/body consciousness while living in this body, in this world itself). Acc. to PBKs both these stages are to be experienced in this Confluence Age itself.

I will quote Murli points if any in this thread itself at a later stage.

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

Yes these aims are OK. But now the main aim is to collect the team for Golden Age. All other aims will be acheived during this process automatically.

BK Dmitry