bkti-pit wrote:Sorry ex-l! I misinterpreted you. Since the topic of this thread is "Black people are the most impure...". I thought you meant that, according to BK philosophy, Obama was the most impure because he is black. Your reasoning, I must say, is a common interpretation of the BK philosophy amongst the BKs but many BKs would consider it rather simplistic and inaccurate. Baba often said that Raja Yoga is not a question of blind faith, that it is something that must be understood. By that account I think that BKs are entitled to have different interpretations. The "philosophy" also says that Brahma is the most impure...
The "philosophy" also says that everyone must reach their most impure state right before they "take Knowledge" so President Obama and the US of A are headed towards the bottom of an exponential decline. You are right ... by BK logic (not your own) Obama must be even more impure BECAUSE he is a black president.
(Aside: I know you are not American but are folks in America taking bets of how quickly he will be assassinated by some racist elements within the secret services/Klu Klux Klan or is it "the game of nations" all over again, e.g. right wing government ends in the poo-poo ... put in a liberal ... have him take the flack but fail or die quickly ... restore even more right wing government ).
This is heading off topic (so please split this topic) and I might start a new one just to try and document it. You are underlining both the dissonance between the core beliefs of the movement and its leadership, and its followers. How do those followers find a place within that system?
In my own experience, I had to enter into a long-term state of denial about the true nature and level of consciousness of the leadership; their ignorance, dishonesty and abuse. I spent a long time in that state. I was socially rewarded by acceptance for taking on board, and repeating to others unquestioning, unfounded and insane beliefs (... like Janki Kripalani being the most stable mind in the world and one of the top 8 souls).
In essence, what they are saying is "we believe everything else is decaying and becoming more impure but we cant say that where it is politically unacceptable. So we will belief the opposite to that as well when it suits us".
Yet Baba says we cannot follow manmat (our own opinions) or listen to others opinions. It either is "God's word" or not.
I agree with you that some BKs attempt to raise the moral and intellectual level ... but how can they? And how long can they be comfortable in a movement well below their level. I believe a few compromise out of ambition and what is in it for them. I believe many more are psychologically abused and enslaved by the mental conditioning and unable to leave ... even though part of them already has.
I can think of some wonderful BKs who are being personally, professional and intellectually stultified whilst they sucked dry by the system. I was thinking about folks like Anthony Strano and Jillian Sawers in the Middle East, Suman in Germany - and many others that are not "names" in the BK world but that just gave up left. Their divinity was their own and well above the BKWSUs. In my opinion, the Brahma Kumari leadership is using and living off them. Using them as polish or icing on a turd.
The danger in sticking around and living with those compromises, attempting to shoehorn the mental adjustments into the mold, is that at first it corrupts you (all the corporate lies and double agent stuff), then it kills you ... and then all that is left is another member of the living dead. A zombie on autopilot.
Let's take just one claim and ask if it is true ... state the absolute or explain the variances ... I think Janki Kripalani would just become angry and irate if forced to do so.