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Aryans and their link as double foreigners

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Aryans and their link as double foreigners

PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008
by bansy
Would like to kick off a new topic for all, BKs and PBKs. I recall that Aryans were mentioned in the PBK course.

What is the association of Aryans in Gyan and the wheel drama ? BapDada often praises double foreigners, is this some association to the Aryans ? Often it has become known as the Aryan "invasion" of India, but maybe "invasion" word has been used in the wrong way.

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PostPosted: 16 May 2008
by tete
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Topic:Experience and treatment of black BKs
BK Pari wrote:Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject:
God has told us that the true Aryans (true deities) were in India. Though, in Heaven, all the people all over the world were Aryans, it is those around the River Jamuna who are the true Aryans. The fact that this group, around the River Jamuna in the Copper Age, were powerful is even shown by the fact that the Aryans in that area were able to mix with people who were darker (after the human bodies started changing colour because of the imperfect state of the human body and because of interferences with the human genes by scientist of that time). It was because they had great quantities of the virtues of being able to adopt and adjust that those Aryans, in the Copper Age, were able to adopt, adjust, mix and marry with the darker ones.

It has to be noted that Aryans were white, had black hair, black eyes and sharp features. They did not have coloured eyes and blond hair like albinos / mutants. Neither could their skin have freckles and look like diseased skin.

Just because the weaker Aryans, who were living very far away from the River Jamuna, were able to maintain the Aryan looks does not mean that they were the true Aryans. It was because of their weaker state that they were not able to mix at that time in the Copper Age. I wouldn't be surprised if the souls of those weaker Aryans had taken subsequent births in India, thus allowing the new souls (from the Soul World) to use those corporeal bodies. This explains the white's ability to adopt and adjust now. They could not do it in the past but are able to do it now because of the views and ways of the new souls who would have better abilities to adopt and adjust. Everything happens as per the drama and there can be a reason why it is happening in the way that it is. Baba has told us that the most powerful ones are now the most tamopradhan ones. They only became most tamopradhan in Kaliyug (espacially at the end of Kaliyug). Thus, their tamopradhan state may have helped the caste system to be practiced to extremes now. If this had happened, it has also happened as per the drama. Instead of getting angry that it is like that now, it would be better if one tries to do something to change it. One has to do this with love and with a peaceful state. If one shows anger, it might only help to emerge the anger in the other person and so the matter might only get worse. It has to be remembered that no one has attained their perfect state as yet.
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God's angel.
BK Pari


This is the only time I recall a discussion on Aryans (Indian ones) at some length and some how tied to Gyan. I just read and never commented. I too am still curious about how this all connects to BKs? I am assuming that "whites" are the double foreigners?!? It seems a touchy subject as it involves "castes" and what seem to be insensitivities or plain out racism! Arjun, what say you?

Tete

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PostPosted: 16 May 2008
by arjun
Sister tete wrote:This is the only time I recall a discussion on Aryans (Indian ones) at some length and some how tied to Gyan. I just read and never commented. I too am still curious about how this all connects to BKs? I am assuming that "whites" are the double foreigners?!? It seems a touchy subject as it involves "castes" and what seem to be insensitivities or plain out racism! Arjun, what say you?

From a BK/PBK point of view the civilization began from the Indian sub-continent. So, the theory of Aryans having come from some other region of the world to India's Gangetic plain does not hold good from their point of view. According to them, humanity expanded/spread from India to other regions from Copper Age onwards.

As regards the differences in colour and other physical features, I guess (from a BK/PBK point of view) that with the onset of Copper Age, there must have been large scale changes in the atmosphere/environment of the Earth. When people migrated from India to other countries with different climatic conditions, they must have undergone some physical changes besides genetic mutations and then out breeding between different races would have produced a multi-ethnic world that we are living in at present.

It is not just BK/PBK point of view, but I have read articles in some magazines also which support the theory that Aryans were originally from India. But I think majority of the history textbooks teach the opposite.

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

Re: Aryans and their link as double foreigners

PostPosted: 16 May 2008
by bansy
Can anyone recall (BK or PBK) whether in Murli/Vani/Murli clarification that Father Shiva will be revealed not from those in "Bharat" but those outside "Bharat" ? Or words to that effect ? Please correct if I am wrong.

(I put quotes around "Bharat" tentatively because it has not been so clearly defined, so disregarding the one meaning of it being the Chariot or body, I assume it to mean a region called the "subcontinent" (whatever that means,too !))

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PostPosted: 17 May 2008
by jaycdp
There was no Aryan invasion of India. It was a myth. Foreigners never invaded the brahmakumaris. Foreigners are slave to the brahmakumaris. They even are willing to wipe Dadi janaki's.

jay

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PostPosted: 19 May 2008
by paulkershaw
bansy wrote:Can anyone recall (BK or PBK) whether in Murli/Vani/Murli clarification that Father Shiva will be revealed not from those in "Bharat" but those outside "Bharat" ?

Yes, Bansy, I do remember this being mentioned in a Murli class. It invoked much discussion and ego about Westeners being 'superior' at the time and why Baba loves the Double Foreigners. I 'think' it was also mentioned as to the reason being why DJ moved to the UK to begin Western service for the BKWSO. There was also discussion about how one day ShivBaba would 'speak' inside the UN and this would lead to the 'Big Reveal'.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the BKWSO still ply the BKWSO is an 'NGO attached to the UN' process in their marketing processes?

Re: Aryans and their link as double foreigners

PostPosted: 19 May 2008
by arjun
Sister.bansy wrote:Can anyone recall (BK or PBK) whether in Murli/Vani/Murli clarification that Father Shiva will be revealed not from those in "Bharat" but those outside "Bharat" ? Or words to that effect ? Please correct if I am wrong.

Yes, it is mentioned in the Avyakt Vanis that the foreigners will reveal the Father. It is also mentioned that Delhi would receive them.

From a PBK point of view 'foreigners' does not necessarily mean 'born/residing in foreign countries' but seed souls of religions other than the deity religion (within the Brahmin family).