Re: ex-l's recent postings damaging how the forum is perceived?
Posted: 07 May 2008
To clarify my previous post I feel a lot more comfortable with the interviewing technique that is employed in Desert Island Discs
Independent thought about the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University for those wishing to leave, and friends and family of followers
http://www.brahmakumaris.info/forum/
http://www.brahmakumaris.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1603
alladin wrote:ex-l, during the days of the "legal case", asked me not to post anything that I could not substantiate. I thought this was unpractical, since I haven't been recording all the episodes of abuse etc ... I went through as a BK, I wasn't going around with a tape recorder in centers, but I remember instances and conversations, atmospheres etc. All is recorded in me.
bkti-pit wrote:Besides that, I want to mention that regarding ethics, I am not talking only of worldly ethics, but even in terms of Brahmin standards according to Shrimat. Any Murli scholar can support that, even those who have full disbelief in BapDada. Is there one line in the Murlis supporting the production and sale of artistic or educational material containing tactfully dressed Gyan designed to bring benefit to souls as a fund raising material to support the charitable activities of the BKWSU or its affiliates?
Did we not hear unlimited times that it was better to die than to beg, that if someone offers us money we should not take it but tell them that if they want to help they can print some leaflets, etc?
john wrote:Maybe an important issue is anonymity. I think those wishing to remain anonymous should be able to do so, but if somebody does reveal their identity and they are seen as a BK going against Shrimat, then really they should expect the activities they are connected with to be scrutinized because that is partly what this forum is about. Getting deeper behind the whiter than white image BKSWU tries and present itself as.
john morgan wrote:
The true issue in everyone's life is what to do with ones time and energy. Whilst there may be a few BK who are engaged in "historical revisionism" for some of their time, true BK are engaged in making themselves "whiter than white," the study is for life. This aspiration, from my perspective is admirable, purity is very rare on this planet and I think the most beautiful quality, perhaps the chance of inculcating it in ones own life should not be missed. To be distracted by others actions and forget the first sentence of this paragraph would be most unfortunate.
andrey wrote:I wonder why the financial part is so often raised by ex-l. If he is financially maintaining the forum we should feel uncomfortable. We know in the past he paid for some materials.
This is not the BKWSU and whilst I welcome any open and honest BK or PBK, the forum should not be limited to or conform either of their standards. I think we should 'set the bar' higher and demand better of both parties.
john wrote:If 'historic revisionism' and Murli revision leads souls away from the truth then the journey towards purity is surely confounded?
john morgan wrote:john wrote:If 'historic revisionism' and Murli revision leads souls away from the truth then the journey towards purity is surely confounded?
It may not be what you wish to hear when I say that historical revisionism and Murli revision is of little interest to me although I do understand that to some these details are sufficient proof to decide that the study is not worth pursuing.
john morgan wrote:You say that historic revisionism is done with a purpose, to deceive. In my last post was the following, I don't think that the truth of what we are now and what our spiritual potential is has ever been misrepresented by the BK. This statement has a high degree of mental certainty in it. How are the BK trying to deceive? By getting a few facts wrong? Give me some clear examples please. Very often it is the significance of the fact that is of value, not the fact itself.
If words were the only message the BK carry from God I would agree with you. The main message is that of incredible love. You know, yogic vibrations.
Retranslating a Murli is no crime.
pilatus wrote:Thanks for your various inputs and by my count that makes it about 80-20 in support of ex-l's approach and tone, so I bow to your collective opinion.
john morgan wrote:Retranslating a Murli is no crime ...
the forum is percieved as the arse-hole of hell already by any BKs indocrinated enough to not have free thought