ex-l wrote:1) a deliberate misrepresentation of the other person's position which is easier to refute than the point they were making[/i]".
2) I cant remember jogging is ever being advised as a path to soul consciousness ...
3) This is said many hundreds of times in the Murlis ... as per "the highest service/highest study" etc ... and agreed through the whole BK movement. I guess my failing is that I am looking for BKs with a heart rather than crooked intellects ...
4) I am starting to think the Pundit Caste of the BKWSU does not want all BKs to have access to the original, unedited Murlis to study as it would challenge their position on their guddhi (throne). Especially if the ordinary BKs started asking reasonable question. The BK Pundits might have a response to those but are those responses answers?
5) When Janki gets angry or irrational because someone asks her something she does not or cannot answer. I saw that going on 25 years ago and I hear it is still going on now.
Dear ex-l soul,
1) Due to my poor English, misinterpretation might have occured. But I do not use other person's weakness as my power.
2) I have never said that that jogging can be a substitute for Amrit Vela Yoga! I just reacted when somebody commented about me as though I do not get up in Amrit Vela at all. Why do you take personal things?
3) If your heart is neutral or impartial, it should be visible through your posts (at least to some extent).
4) I have never said BKs are perfect. I said I find nobody better than BKs in this world.
5) I have not heard Janki getting upset. That may be correct as everybody is a purusharthi. I do not follow Dadis.
But I will share here one of my sweet and sour experience. There was VIP shivir in Madhuban. On the last day, it was question and answer programme. A senior BK Brother was on the stage to answer the questions. Delegates had submitted their questions through slips. The senior Brother was reading the slips and answering. One question was, "BKs drink milk. Is it OK?"
Answer was:- It is incorrect to take milk from cow without feeding to the calf. Otherwise, it is not a sin. But (according to my understanding), the delegate's doubt was, is not milk non-veg?
So, question was one and answer was another. I felt surprise and very bad (low status in front of 2,000 delegates) that BKs failed to answer properly [No delegate reacted negatively, but all became silent (not positive) when they heard the answer]. Then I started thinking myself. After three months I came with new thing.
My answer is = Anything saatwik (pure) and nonviolence is OK.
This incident was in around 1998. I became happy that I found myself (Of course, it was due to incorporeal relation with Baba) better answer. So, such things would be there. Nobody is perfect. This is the reason why Baba says, do not get influenced by any BK, even by Brahma Baba!.
Around three years from today, I felt myself to be worthy in 16,108. At present, I consider my rank to be within 2,000. But even if somebody overtakes me, I will not feel bad (not bothered about future birth). I have no ego or jealous of others. [But it may be in different form like a small fear or confusion]
It is good that we are able to communicate together like this. But unless sanskaar (or goal) of both mine and yours mix (same), one of us or both may feel discomfort (or waste) if we continue. Anyhow, I had wished to take a break. All the best and my respect to you, if you are really neutral.