Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

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Re: Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

Post11 Nov 2008

vivaespana wrote:Miriam Subirana also known as Mira is supposed to be a surrendered BK as well.

Mira is the name of a very famous devotee. She was thought to be an incarnation of Radha, the consort of Lord Krishna. Her earthly life was full of troubles, yet she kept up her spirit by the strength of her devotion to Krishna, her soulful songs acting as a soothing balm to wounded hearts.

    So what was going on during that period when Miriam was sharing her single bed with another BK Sister? I cant remember her name but she looked quite young. Does anyone remember?
The whole thing between Miriam and Enrique becomes even weirder, sordid ... or should we say "even more BK" ... if it turns out to be true that Enrique Simó Kadletz left a wife and child to join the Brahma Kumaris. Can anyone confirm this as well?

Now, from a wordly point of view, all this might be no big thing and a matter of privacy for the individuals concerned.

BUT ...

From a BK point of view, this is all very, very wrong. If an organization is promoting itself ... and politically and financially benefiting ... on the basis of its PR image as "pure" and requiring great discipline, and if a leadership is basing its spiritual authority over others lives on its ability to choose and appoint representitives ... what is going on ?!?

It now become a matter of public concern and should be discussed openly. Such behaviour would be a serious breach of ethics for a "spiritual leader" over one of their followers. If it is one rule for them and one rule for us ... then I think all the manipulation and lording it over others has to stop.

Does anyone know what happened to this other woman? I would be genuinely concerned for her well-being if it damaged her trust. Imagine if two Brothers did the same? (Oh, they have done and worse, I know, but that is a different matter).

    Do the Seniors know about it all, and allow it to go on, as long as things look OK and the money keeps coming in?

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Post12 Nov 2008

An ex-BK friend of mine thinks that the girl that Miriam used to regularly have with her in her bed was Ruth Ramirez. She says that Ruth was so drawn to Miriam and always wanted to be beside her and she always seeked Miriam's attention. She also seems to remember that Ruth used play the guitar and sing love songs to Miriam on many occasions. My friend says that Ruth was much younger than Miriam. This all sounds weird but my friend says that this was the truth. Could it be that Miriam was using this poor young girl and manipulating her? Or could it be that they became lovers? Only God and they know the truth about this. It would be interesting to find out.

My friend also says that she thinks that Ruth became totally confused as Miriam eventually kept trying to detach herself from Ruth. But Ruth became more and more attached and could not let go of Miriam. My friend thinks that Ruth has now left the BK organisation, however, Ruth's Brother continues to serve in Miriam's kingdom.

My friend also says that she knows someone who also saw the photo of Miriam and Enrique kissing.

Maybe some other Spanish ex-BK can confirm or add to this information.

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Re: Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

Post13 Nov 2008

This looks like the new BK website in Espana

Someone might like to go to these conferencias

http://www.brahmakumaris.org/spain/novedades

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Post14 Nov 2008

I see they go straight for the purse and state a price openly. So much for the "always free" claim.

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Post30 Nov 2008

Cool, all these Bonnie and Clydes in the BK panorama!

Quarto doble, y una cama bien grande, por supuesto!despues de tantos anos de represion sexual!!

Me imagino la proverbial creatividad de la muchacha, quizas su lingerie!!!

Is there any picture of Enrique available? I heard he's a handsome guy! ;)

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Post30 Nov 2008

Hola

There's a picture of Enrique on this website

http://www.fundacionananta.org/

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Re: Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

Post23 Jan 2009

Hola everyone,

Please see this web link

http://www.BKWSU.net/bkun/humanrights/rightscard.html

Saludos
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Re: Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

Post23 Jan 2009

Esto es interesting

her website personal is advertised on a BK website in turkey

http://www.meditasyonyapalim.com/default.aspx?pid=55810

This one is her selling herself as a translator

http://www.xing.com/profile/Miriam_SubiranaVilanova

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Post24 Jan 2009

This is looking like a new centre opened by Miriam Subirana in Espain

http://www.yesouisi.es/gb.html

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Post24 Jan 2009

Aqui esta el home page de Yesousi

http://www.yesouisi.es/

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Re: Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

Post06 Feb 2009

I am not a sure if this one has already been posted on this forum

http://www.oxfordleadership.com/pool/mi ... rofile.pdf

This is all conocimiento (knowledge) taught by the Brahma Kumaris but it has become commercialised now.

the BK logros (achievements) are being used for professional achievements, the books, the appreciative inquiry, the meditation etc.

Another networking page,

http://www.123people.com/s/miriam+subirana

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Re: Miriam Subirana and Enrique Simó Kadletz - BK co-prosperity

Post07 Feb 2009

Do you know the story of "Appreciative Inquiry", how it came about and how it entered into the Brahma Kumari movememnt.

I know there is a direct connection to David Cooperrider and BK Judy Rodgers and that David is a sort of attendee of BK or something. Was David a proper BK once? Was there a policy decision and training of it done? Is it being done at Madhuban? What does it all mean within the BK world?
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