Hey Ray - Inverted commas are good! A nuisance, but they make a difference no? ("devil"). I'd still say the experiences you had
rayoflight wrote:I was able to put my thoughts, that is my will, into other people's minds ...
and the rest ... are things that people with strong personalities and skills do all the time. One of the qualities needed is confidence, and when you are zealous, you are confident. You can see how those skills connect to all the executive/sales coaching type service that BKs do these days. Anyway, if that spiritualist language serves you, fine. Being bi-lingual, and with parents for whom English is a 2nd language, I am often aware of what language people think in, how certain concepts fit better in the "other" language, and how the limitations of a language effects concepts (which is one reason languages change). "We live through our language".
alladin wrote: I would not generalize claiming that ALL Seniors have pure motives ... doesn't take decades of meditation to become kind and gentle ... Is it such a big deal to be a nice person and to respect others? I wouldn't call souls who are cynical and give sorrow, who misuse their powers, elevated, nor enlightened ... not white magicians, just the opposite.
Yes, I'd agree with all of that. Except they are not magicians by any stretch (or did you mean "black non-magicians"?). The only reason they can fool anyone is if they want to be fooled, or are ready to be fooled.
Otherwise they would successfully convert almost anyone who came into contact with them. Or only those, like ROL, who "attract supernatural experiences". If you look at the numbers, the Christians are far more successful at "bewitching" people into believing their god. So let's "keep it real". If you enter a shop, you are half-ready to buy what may be on offer. If you are honest with yourself, with reflection I am sure you'd spot your "sucker moment" or what made you a ripe pick, as we have discussed elsewhere. Once you "buy" into the game, you have a motive to invest more into it, like a bad gambling habit, trying to call your own bluff.
By saying "they are sincere, if misguided" is not to disagree with your comments. Rajneesh said the same thing of the BKs, "they believe complete nonsense, but with complete conviction". I doubt center-in-charges consciously work out, "how will I give sorrow" or "let me misuse my power". As Jannisder asks, and l'll ask in a different way of any ex-centre wassis, did you think in those terms? I am sure the self-justification that goes on, the twisting of reality to suit the particular truth they are trying to perpetuate, is sincere - and it's twisted because the person has become twisted (meaning neurotic, split, out of touch with themselves).