rayoflight wrote:... it was precisely this attitude that I encountered with the BKs that caused me the most damage. When I went into trance, I was scared. I sought help and I got jealousy in return.
Thank you for bringing this up. It reminded me once again of the hell I went through.
Please allow me to capture that in a snapshot for just a moment.
Now, here we have examples from both sides of the psychological spectrum where the BKWSU ... despite advertising itself a the Divine, Godly, Spiritual University ... fails absolutely.
• On one hand, we have adherents having mental breakdowns. Real life, no question of doubt about it, full blown mental or nervous breakdowns ... and when they do, the leadership really has no clue what caused them or how to deal with them. And they are not discussed.
• On the other, we have adherents having real life, full blown, trance, psychic, spiritualistic experiences ... and when they do, the leadership really has no clue what caused them or how to deal with them. And they are not really discussed beyond the small degree where they are useful for the sake of business.
Of course, such experiences are desired ... even lusted after. Of course, they are "evidence" of it all being real. I have no idea how it must have felt for others who were "outside of the honeypot" but it is basic human psychologic - especially of women I have to say - to be jealous of others. And I have no doubt at all those experience were real.
When I "gave myself" to the BKWSU, I thought I was going to learn all about all this stuff ... not become a corporate PR person and "serve" at corporate and political PR entertainment events. I thought I was actually going to learn 'the spirit', chakras, other realms, psychism, how things worked metaphysically. They said they were a "Spiritual University". I thought there would be teachers of all that sort of stuff. At that point, I came from a yogi mystic background and was seeking the truth.
What a bad joke ... For any newcomers to the BKWSU reading this ... forget it. They don't know. They don't teach. They have not a clue. They would not know what a chakra was if one hit them on the head and if you crack up, they will chuck you out and, despite you giving your all to them, send you back to your physical family to be dealt with.
Ultimately, but theoretically, I have to agree with bkti-pit. Yes, every great teacher and school says that true spirituality is above "psychicism" (or spiritualism) ... but one would have to know, understand and be able to deal with it when it arose. Not just pretend to. So why not proper discussion and documentation?
One reason could be that some of the very biggest BKs, and many "teachers", are just not having any experiences. It is just all in their head.
Funnily enough, this was also a point made by ex-member Sparkal who used to have very deep and profound experiences, yet was not the "perfect BK" and, ultimately, was outcast by the BKWSU to deal with it all by himself.
bkti-pit wrote:I also heard of Little Mohini being supposedly possessed by the spirit of Krishna. What a circus that was apparently! First, how could that be when we are told that the spirit of Krishna is actually Brahma Baba's soul and is supposed to currently be in his subtle body in the Subtle Region? And, frankly, the way she behaves had nothing to do with Brahma Baba's personality, or with what most of us would imagine of a Golden Age personality.
At the most basic level, is it just a "corporate payoff"?
Gulzar gets God to act as a medium for, Janki gets the business to run, Big Mohini get the Americas, Jayanti gets the Dalai Lama and all the other VIPs ... what is in it for Little Mohini? So she gets to have Lekhraj Kirpalani as Krishna come in her to sustain her status?I never saw this particular sideshow happen. Others have talked about it to me. They say it is child-like and embarrassing, especially as she is a little old woman and hugely overweight. It sounds like bad Bollywood. So, what is it?
Sure, spiritualism is often bunk. But, on the other hand, channeling and mediumship of deceased or otherwordly souls, is common all across India and the world. Why does it HAVE to be Krishna? I mean ... who has the accurate "Krishna-ometer" to check!?!
And what of the logic you mention, what they are suggesting is that Lekhraj Kirpalani, who is currently in the Subtle Regions but is also at the same in the future, comes back to the past? If it is "Lekhraj Kirpalani as Krishna from the future", then what is Krishna in the future doing when he goes back in time!?! It is becoming as confusing as
Heroes.