Struggle and friendship

for ex-BKs to discuss matters related to experiences in BKWSU & after leaving.
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chai chai

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Struggle and friendship

Post05 Nov 2009

Wow, when you are going through stuff you find out who you friends are hard time ... 3 months and not one visitor and I have just spent seven years working side by side with this group every day.

We use the word "family" very loosely. BKs are so busy hiding "doing service" they forget what the meaning of the word "Brother" means. It leaves you hurt and confused.
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Re: Struggle and friendship

Post06 Nov 2009

Hi Chai ... Hello and welcome to 'The Dark Side of the BKWSU' or ... wait a minute ... are we 'the Light Side' of the BK world?

Are you new here, or is that just a new account? We had another unpaid 'Chai Bhai' BK serf drop by from the BKWSU Gulag earlier.

Yup, sounds familiar. I think it was Mr Green who said something like ...

    "They call it a family when they need something, and an organization (that does not do charity) when you need something".

John Waters wrote:Eclipse

All that you touch ... All that you see ... All that you taste ... All you feel.

All that you love ... All that you hate ... All you distrust ... All you save.

All that you give ... All that you deal ... All that you buy ... beg ... borrow or steal.

All you create ... All you destroy ... All that you do ... All that you say.

All that you eat. And everyone you meet. All that you slight. And everyone you fight.

All that is now ... All that is gone ... All that's to come and everything under the sun is in tune

... but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.

There is no dark side of the BKWSU really. Matter of fact it's all dark.
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rayoflight

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Re: Struggle and friendship

Post06 Nov 2009

Hello chai chai,

Sorry to hear about your experience. I know how badly it can hurt. The disappointment we feel in regards to our so-called "Brothers" and "Sisters" behavior is like taking a cold shower on a cold winter morning in Madhuban before Amrit Vela. It's uncomfortable but necessary if you want to be a Brahmin with the BK.

The positive side of a cold shower is that it wakes us up, like turning on the light in the dark. At first the light hurts our eyes but then when we see what was hiding in the dark, we become fully awake and alert.

rayoflight
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tom

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Re: Struggle and friendship

Post06 Nov 2009

Dear Chai chai,

This experience of yours about what the BKs understand from being a family and Brothers, is priceless.

Nothing could make you realize this fact but your own experience. Never mind. Seven years are a great deal. Now you have time to get in touch again with your own family members and with your friends from your life before you met the BKs.

Don't give much importance on what they are not doing. It is very bitter for the very old and sick ones when they are thrown away without love and support of their "beloved" Dadis and Dadas. Even Brahma Baba's own daughter (I forgot her name) is left alone, cancer sick, in her home with poverty and without support.

Thank Divine that you have seen their real face before it is too late.

With best wishes to overcome the difficulties in your life.
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alladin

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To expect or not to expect? This is the question!

Post07 Nov 2009

Hi, Chai Chai.

Truly welcome, and yes, sorry to hear that. Blessings to you for a quick recovery. Possibly healing from disappointments that have come from lokik fair-weather friends, is easier than overcoming the hurt inflicted on us by other BKs.

Of course, they will have many answers ready, to make you feel that you are the one to be blamed or despised, even when you are the victim. For example, cruelty, cynicism and sadism, find their justifications in the elevated teachings that go under the names of: "not taking sorrow". So once again, it is our mistake if we receive pain from an abuser.

Drama, no one did anything wrong, really. It was all accurate and meant to be. In fact, it was a lesson. Be grateful to the teacher for it! Karma, you had with that person, be happy that at last you paid your bill and do not complain, react or take the law in your hands! Etc ...

It is all partly true, because we have to remain light and go beyond, move on, it is a healthy attitude. What puzzles me is that often, spiritual teachings/slogans are used in order to cover-up wrongdoings that in the normal (Shudra's) society are considered unacceptable.

Anyway, you have not been the first one, neither will you be the last. You, and all of us have been taught not to have expectations but we wanted to have the positive imagination of decent behaviour, including mutual respect and compassion to start with, from those future angels/deities!

In hindsight, what can we expect, when we bump into opportunistic folks? I know it's hard to accept that the BKWSO is such, and so are many of its members, even the most magnanimous are taught not to give and rather "mind your own biz". Do not give personal attention to anyone in need for it and instead persuaded to spend all of their forces for the sect. Baba's task and bla, bla ...

But they are users, and this is one of the characteristics that many "contact souls" as well as pukka BKs eventually notice and becomes a reason for leaving with a bad taste in the mouth!

Often the moment someone becomes a sister in charge, her/his behaviour gains the right of not being liable of being questioned. Everything is done and received from their part in the name of God. Help, donations, devotion and dedication, humility, are taken for granted. You have to give, be proud of it , and do not ask for anything in return.

Maybe to you and to many of us, it doesn't sound fair, but try and voice your feeling, and you will get the aggravation of criticism , and be labeled as a weak person, full of attachment, one who leans on human beings, unable to survive and take support just from God.

Oh, well. We all know it by heart, if this can console you!!!
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rayoflight

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Re: Struggle and friendship

Post07 Nov 2009

Well said, alladin.

Nothing hurts more than finding out you've been used. Some of us step off the BK stage at this point, whilst others stay on maybe determined to convince themselves that it's not true, turning every possibility over until a BK slogan arrives to cover up the wound.

But the truth remains the same and lying to yourself to avoid the truth only deepens the wound and prolongs the illusion.

chai chai

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Re: Struggle and friendship

Post08 Nov 2009

Hi, thanks for your words. I am new here but have been BK for 15 years. The last little chapter of 7 years was at one particular
place.

Nice to know that I am not alone.

chai chai

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Re: Struggle and friendship

Post08 Nov 2009

Wow, thanks to all who replied I have read all your words.

Thanks

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