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Surely an aim of a forum like this, if it is to genuinely cater for those leaving the BKs and recovering from the effects of that association, is to help people orient themselves to life again? This is best facilitated by discussing and promoting self-help and support strategies while giving people the opportunity to establish a more realistic perception of the world. The exploration of practical self-help strategies helps to support the former aim while the latter aim is achieved by exploring the bigger picture - and exploring information which promotes a broader understanding of the way systems really work.
What is the benefit of simply stabbing at the BKWSU and lamenting its myriad faults? There is limited benefit in exposing the deceptions of the BKs but much greater benefit in recognising the much broader deceptions which belong to a wider world into which people have chosen to return to. This is what is truly helpful and empowering. Allowing people who have been victims of the BKs to empower themselves through wider awareness so they are able to transcend an even bigger fable - the one they have been fed since birth.
Your pointless shout of 'conspiracy theory' is a trite and ineffectual response against facts that all people on this forum can verify if they make the effort to do so. When people research these issues they no longer mention conspiracy theory because their own investigations put them in touch with information which supports the claims. What replaces the well conditioned knee jerk response of conspiracy theory is a sombre recognition concerning how little they knew and how much bigger the picture really is. So let people decide for themselves after having informed themselves via such a process.
To untilize a forum like this to simply expose BK corruption is missing a very big point. Sure it is helpful and cathartic to express ones ordeal with the BKs in a supportive environment but there is more potential for helping people on this kind of forum that this? All ex-BKs on this forum, having woken up to the BK scam, now have an opportunity to wake up to the much wider scam - the one that is being perpetrated every day of their lives - the one no one tells you about or wants you to know. Do you want ex-l and his likes to judge for you whether this opportunity is allowed for you on this forum? Use your own voice to express what could be helpful for you on this environment?
The picture and understanding available is so much bigger than the issue of the BKs. It makes what the BKs are doing look like a side scene in an epic adventure. We have all been hurt by the BK experience to a greater or lesser extent, me included, but we must acknowledge the much greater effects on us from the very system into which the BKs were able to perpetrate their actions. This can only be truly acknowledged by recognising the larger system for what it truly is - a machine of lies, deceptions and a birth to death indoctrination.
I deal with people everyday that throw around the same kind of comments about this stuff as ex-l. It becomes a tiresome repitition like the person who constantly refuses to see the large elephant in the room repeating the words ' there is nothing there and to say there is is a conspiracy'. It's a joke.
It is pointless to provide examples, no matter how provable or well substantiated to someone which ex-l's mindset because its like trying to appeal to committed denier. But for those with eyes to see heres another example for you ...
Eight years ago several well informed figures claimed there was a plan to use the climate change argument and the issue of carbon emissions to bring in punitive new taxes to both companies and individuals. First they said these taxes would be rolled out and applied to businesses and later they would be applied domestically to families who would be taxed on the waste they produced and the energy they used in their homes. Where did they get such wild conspiratorial idea? Well, from several implications contained in UN publications, books written by members of the eco-science community and statements occasionally dropped into speeches from political figures.
These ideas were not the the result of a lone voice but their appeared at unity of opinion emerging from several sources. People who were really listening to this years ago caught the comments and the implications of it. They expressed the opinion that a plan existed, using climate change as a pretext, to introduce a range of punitive new laws and taxes based on a carbon credit system. They were confronted by an army of laughing Mr ex-l types who mocked them and dismissed the notion that a cartel of individuals were working to implement this plan in the not too distant future.
Well, perhaps you have noticed what is happening now in 2011? Julia Gillard the leader of Australia has announced the first implementation of carbon taxes on companies from next year set at around $28 per tonne of carbon emission. A carbon credit system will be introduced to limit the production of carbon from companies. Other countries will follow no doubt including Britain. The United Nations publication Agenda 21 hints at future measures to rescue domestic carbon emissions using incentives like fines and taxes on households.
It is only now that these events are emerging in an 'in your face' manner that people are taking it seriously. Even the deniers of the past are shut up by it because it has become obvious this was the secret agenda all along. So you see the stupidity of simply shouting 'conspiracy' every time a bunch of alert people spot a convert plan to change our lives and the system. An article in the Daily Mail recently described the UN's plans under Agenda 21 as the greatest threat of terrorism to the future of the world. The article highlights the plans to dramatically reduce our standards of living and prosperity in order to meet carbon emission targets and the punitive tax incentives they want to introduce to achieve it. For goodness sake people - WAKE UP!
Again, people who read the telecommunications acts of 1996 and spotted the implications of it informed people that all mobile devices, cell-phones, PC's, tablet computers etc were going to be made 'ready' by manufacturers so that by 2001 state authorities and others with the motive and means, could remotely access these devices at will because backdoor technology allowing this was to be put in place. The readying of this technology would allow for outside agencies to listen to your voice messages, turn your mobile phone into a microphone to listen in on you and your conversations, switch your phone camera and web cam off and on at will and track your internet activity and physical location in real time. Again, these insightful people were met with the usual tirade of Mr ex-l's mocking the notion of any government of international cabal planning such a venture. Why, they shouted, would anyone want to do such a thing?
The recent phone hacking scandal not only illustrates how easy it is for others to access mobile phone messages but highlights the widespread practice of it. All mobile devices have been made vulnerable to this kind of access because since 2001 manufacturers have made it this way - WITHOUT INFORMING YOU! Now why would they not inform the public of this? Secondly, Apple have recently announced their intention to switch off Apple mobiles camera facility if people try to film music concerts. Infa-red towers will be installed at public events to detect filming from mobiles. A message will then be sent from Apple to remotely switch the phones off and back on again after the event has finished.
Although Apple suggest they are applying for a patent to do this, the reality is that phones have been readied long ago to allow for this kind of remote operation under the requirements of the Telecommunications Acts. Previous to this two researchers into Apple phones discovered a chip which is tracking in real time the users location and which produces a map of where the user has been over the last year. All manufacturers were instructed to ready technology for this purpose by governments long ago.
This is all verifiable information. The fact is this was the plan and instruction all along. A plan created by governments, security services, telecommunications companies and providers. Importantly the implications of these new regulations were not conveyed to the public. You can look at the Pentagon War Academy publications and read of their aim to develop a wordwide network of tracking and surveillance in real time - this is the ultimate project for the military-industrial complex. This is fact not fiction as emerging evidence support. But if you are a Mr ex-l type you will ignore the elephant in the room. I could provide a hundred fruther examples with links to supportive documentation but still the Mr Ex-Ls of this world will refuse to contemplate the implications.
You see Mr Ex-Ls claim I am a conspiracy theorist is wildly inaccurate. People like me are investigators who gather substance to our claims from legitimate sources, and having found supporting evidence seek to inform others about it so they too carry a more informed view of the bigger picture. You see how stupid it is to talk of wild leaps of faith and logic when this stuff is knocking on everyones door so loudly and is set to knock a damm sight harder in the near future.
Come on people open your eyes and wake up please. There is a wider picture available that goes way beyond BK issues. This is about your future and the future of your kids and their kids. Don't let the likes of ex-l hand you a spade to bury your head in the sand. Have the courage to look and ignore the disapproving complaints of the Ex-Ls.
What is the benefit of simply stabbing at the BKWSU and lamenting its myriad faults? There is limited benefit in exposing the deceptions of the BKs but much greater benefit in recognising the much broader deceptions which belong to a wider world into which people have chosen to return to. This is what is truly helpful and empowering. Allowing people who have been victims of the BKs to empower themselves through wider awareness so they are able to transcend an even bigger fable - the one they have been fed since birth.
Your pointless shout of 'conspiracy theory' is a trite and ineffectual response against facts that all people on this forum can verify if they make the effort to do so. When people research these issues they no longer mention conspiracy theory because their own investigations put them in touch with information which supports the claims. What replaces the well conditioned knee jerk response of conspiracy theory is a sombre recognition concerning how little they knew and how much bigger the picture really is. So let people decide for themselves after having informed themselves via such a process.
To untilize a forum like this to simply expose BK corruption is missing a very big point. Sure it is helpful and cathartic to express ones ordeal with the BKs in a supportive environment but there is more potential for helping people on this kind of forum that this? All ex-BKs on this forum, having woken up to the BK scam, now have an opportunity to wake up to the much wider scam - the one that is being perpetrated every day of their lives - the one no one tells you about or wants you to know. Do you want ex-l and his likes to judge for you whether this opportunity is allowed for you on this forum? Use your own voice to express what could be helpful for you on this environment?
The picture and understanding available is so much bigger than the issue of the BKs. It makes what the BKs are doing look like a side scene in an epic adventure. We have all been hurt by the BK experience to a greater or lesser extent, me included, but we must acknowledge the much greater effects on us from the very system into which the BKs were able to perpetrate their actions. This can only be truly acknowledged by recognising the larger system for what it truly is - a machine of lies, deceptions and a birth to death indoctrination.
I deal with people everyday that throw around the same kind of comments about this stuff as ex-l. It becomes a tiresome repitition like the person who constantly refuses to see the large elephant in the room repeating the words ' there is nothing there and to say there is is a conspiracy'. It's a joke.
It is pointless to provide examples, no matter how provable or well substantiated to someone which ex-l's mindset because its like trying to appeal to committed denier. But for those with eyes to see heres another example for you ...
Eight years ago several well informed figures claimed there was a plan to use the climate change argument and the issue of carbon emissions to bring in punitive new taxes to both companies and individuals. First they said these taxes would be rolled out and applied to businesses and later they would be applied domestically to families who would be taxed on the waste they produced and the energy they used in their homes. Where did they get such wild conspiratorial idea? Well, from several implications contained in UN publications, books written by members of the eco-science community and statements occasionally dropped into speeches from political figures.
These ideas were not the the result of a lone voice but their appeared at unity of opinion emerging from several sources. People who were really listening to this years ago caught the comments and the implications of it. They expressed the opinion that a plan existed, using climate change as a pretext, to introduce a range of punitive new laws and taxes based on a carbon credit system. They were confronted by an army of laughing Mr ex-l types who mocked them and dismissed the notion that a cartel of individuals were working to implement this plan in the not too distant future.
Well, perhaps you have noticed what is happening now in 2011? Julia Gillard the leader of Australia has announced the first implementation of carbon taxes on companies from next year set at around $28 per tonne of carbon emission. A carbon credit system will be introduced to limit the production of carbon from companies. Other countries will follow no doubt including Britain. The United Nations publication Agenda 21 hints at future measures to rescue domestic carbon emissions using incentives like fines and taxes on households.
It is only now that these events are emerging in an 'in your face' manner that people are taking it seriously. Even the deniers of the past are shut up by it because it has become obvious this was the secret agenda all along. So you see the stupidity of simply shouting 'conspiracy' every time a bunch of alert people spot a convert plan to change our lives and the system. An article in the Daily Mail recently described the UN's plans under Agenda 21 as the greatest threat of terrorism to the future of the world. The article highlights the plans to dramatically reduce our standards of living and prosperity in order to meet carbon emission targets and the punitive tax incentives they want to introduce to achieve it. For goodness sake people - WAKE UP!
Again, people who read the telecommunications acts of 1996 and spotted the implications of it informed people that all mobile devices, cell-phones, PC's, tablet computers etc were going to be made 'ready' by manufacturers so that by 2001 state authorities and others with the motive and means, could remotely access these devices at will because backdoor technology allowing this was to be put in place. The readying of this technology would allow for outside agencies to listen to your voice messages, turn your mobile phone into a microphone to listen in on you and your conversations, switch your phone camera and web cam off and on at will and track your internet activity and physical location in real time. Again, these insightful people were met with the usual tirade of Mr ex-l's mocking the notion of any government of international cabal planning such a venture. Why, they shouted, would anyone want to do such a thing?
The recent phone hacking scandal not only illustrates how easy it is for others to access mobile phone messages but highlights the widespread practice of it. All mobile devices have been made vulnerable to this kind of access because since 2001 manufacturers have made it this way - WITHOUT INFORMING YOU! Now why would they not inform the public of this? Secondly, Apple have recently announced their intention to switch off Apple mobiles camera facility if people try to film music concerts. Infa-red towers will be installed at public events to detect filming from mobiles. A message will then be sent from Apple to remotely switch the phones off and back on again after the event has finished.
Although Apple suggest they are applying for a patent to do this, the reality is that phones have been readied long ago to allow for this kind of remote operation under the requirements of the Telecommunications Acts. Previous to this two researchers into Apple phones discovered a chip which is tracking in real time the users location and which produces a map of where the user has been over the last year. All manufacturers were instructed to ready technology for this purpose by governments long ago.
This is all verifiable information. The fact is this was the plan and instruction all along. A plan created by governments, security services, telecommunications companies and providers. Importantly the implications of these new regulations were not conveyed to the public. You can look at the Pentagon War Academy publications and read of their aim to develop a wordwide network of tracking and surveillance in real time - this is the ultimate project for the military-industrial complex. This is fact not fiction as emerging evidence support. But if you are a Mr ex-l type you will ignore the elephant in the room. I could provide a hundred fruther examples with links to supportive documentation but still the Mr Ex-Ls of this world will refuse to contemplate the implications.
You see Mr Ex-Ls claim I am a conspiracy theorist is wildly inaccurate. People like me are investigators who gather substance to our claims from legitimate sources, and having found supporting evidence seek to inform others about it so they too carry a more informed view of the bigger picture. You see how stupid it is to talk of wild leaps of faith and logic when this stuff is knocking on everyones door so loudly and is set to knock a damm sight harder in the near future.
Come on people open your eyes and wake up please. There is a wider picture available that goes way beyond BK issues. This is about your future and the future of your kids and their kids. Don't let the likes of ex-l hand you a spade to bury your head in the sand. Have the courage to look and ignore the disapproving complaints of the Ex-Ls.