Firstly, to the
Anonymous Coward Learningspirit hiding behind false name on an internet forum making personal attacks ...
No, I was in and around the BKs for more than 1 to 2 years. Yes, the effects of it seriously hindered me for 10 or more lost years as I waited trapped in the kind of half-in/half-out bardo many ex- and exiting BKs find themselves (
... 1 to 2 years refers to the period when I was pukka).
I specifically refer to the failed predictions of the End of the World or Destruction which was to be in 1986, and then 1996, in my day. I believed as I was led and told to believe God was telling me and, for me, God is truth and does not lie or fail. It was only after 199 6 or 8, I would say, that I really started to live again.
I was conned and robbed of my 20s, and more.
Actually, my life will remain severely damaged by the influence of the Brahma Kumaris because I was of that generation who were encouraged to give up their further education, put aside their career, and take simple jobs that would leave their minds and bodies free to serve the Kirpalani Klan world domination plan.
If you measure from when I took the course to when I finally started to find liberation after the End of the World prediction failed, you will find it is 15 years. Who is telling the truth, me or you who knows nothing of me?
Why don't you start by telling us who you are?
Pink Panther wrote:When truth is in opposition to loyalty, then ego & super ego are severely challenged. For BKs the latter are more important ...
When truth is denied to maintain loyalty or ego, cognitive dissonance appears [and] the potential for harm to others or to self (psychological damage).
I agree, and in the case of the Brahma Kumaris, it is only one step away from their old caste/community mentality as Bhaibands. A mentality - based on cultural, historical and geographical factors which was very much 'us against the world', and then 'our world (the Bhaiband community) against us'.
The Sindi Bhaiband were a very tight and somewhat clandestine bunch known for dubious legalities, e.g. in relationship with the Amil administrators who ran their businesses ...
and somewhat fitted into the role of sucker fish on the body of the Sindi sharks ... they develop secret unreadable languages in order to hide their accounting from the scrutiny of the British and whichever nation they were trading in as middle men of other people's produce.
Tanya wrote:I find both these situations highly discriminatory and believe that this discrimination is done intentionally ... I really haven't been able to comprehend the reason for non-uniformity in the application of rules.
Such individual practical examples are useful because they illustrate the real values of the BKWSU. Values they want to others to think are described the vague and meaningly word "spiritual" ... but are really defined not by morality, ethics or -
God Forbid! - legality ... but by nothing more than expediency.
Expedient or expediency means the attaining an end, especially one that is convenient but considered improper or immoral.
"Spiritual" to me would mean starting with equal base of morality and ethics applied to all. It would be open, honest and accountable.
To the Brahma Kumaris leadership, it's just a good advertising word for a system which is based primarily on 'expediency' ... whatever is the most useful or profitable at the time, however ... and then, secondly, on a patchwork of mental tricks or excuses (yuktis) to stop adherents questioning the quixotic will of the leaders. And, yes, it's all highly discriminatory and based on hierarchies. If you are rich and powerful you'll get away with anything; if you are poor you'll be made to conform but comforted by thought that by conforming, you rank in the next life will be higher whilst the corrupt will be lower.
The Brahma Kumaris have re-defined the world spiritual, or soul-conscious as they used to call it, to mean a sort of superstitious belief if they remember their Baba when they do something dodgy, it will have no bad karmic result.
In the UK, we were told the chief trustee of the BKWSU also married another Brahma Kumaris, both of Indian origin. One from Mauritius. That the Kirpalani Klan knows all about it and sanctioned it. That is has nothing to do with love between the two parties, I don't think they even live together. Most probably it's just to do with mortgages, money and property.
Remember how they used to discipline their poor and weak follower about "purity", celibacy, not accepting money from individuals not following the principles and not doing business with other BKs? This individual is their accountant.
Did Jayanti sit in morning class and announce they have a new policy ... that any Brahma Kumaris can now pick their Brahma Kumar whether it is for a visa, or for money mortgages on properties?
Do you hear any of the BKs questioning this?
Is casting groundless, false, negative and aspersion at another individual "spiritual".
Obviously not to the rest of the world.
But to a BK it is ... as long as they believe they are remembering their Baba whilst they do it, or do it in service of their Baba ... as they see it ... it seems.
Simon spent years doing this on the Wikipedia and now they use their copycat forum to launch attacks on us here.
If Simon has any evidence of me betraying anyone's privacy on this forum, please post it.
Actually, I think I have only done so once and that was in private to the leaders of the BKWSU not referring to the individual by name.
It related to BK Hansa Raval's bigamous marriage incident (bigamy is when one person is married to two different people at the same time. The matter went all the way up to Madhuban).
Did the BK leaders show any concern (it is a crime, not merely an immoral activity)?
Ha. No. Not at all. What they did was attack me accusing me of blackmail from raising the spiritual ethics of it and Simon supported her.
There is your "spirituality" of these people.
I don't want to speak badly of snakes but the BKs twist and curl and slither and spit venom just like them.
BTW, two of the secretly married BKs in London are both from Mauritius. Is that a co-incidence?
Should other BKs not be concerned about the ethics of such activity rather than just sitting there believing that their rank has just gone up because someone else has just fallen?