Apology ... for what!?! Chances of them getting that is less than zero. They owe *us* all an apology for being dishonest to us, manipulating and exploiting us, and leaving people we knew open to abuse or suicidal without any support ... beyond wasting years of our lives on their mad goose chase. A goose chase you probably have not even started yet.
How long have you been a BK and how deeply are you involved?
arvind.giri wrote:Some people challenge BKs to comment on thread of incidents of rape or sexual abuses ... they are worse than the one who did the heinous crime and in my opinion BKWSU deserves a serious apology from them.
You are starting to become silly now.
Firstly, you are addressing ex-l, not other people. So address ex-l. You can do so here, or you can use the topic
specifically criticising ex-l's posts.
You are saying that ex-l is "worse than a rapists or a child sex abuser".
Secondly, the quote you are referencing is Mark Twain's, and it is "
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience". Therefore, I think you are also calling ex-l a stupid person. Hmmn ... I don't think even the BKWSU leaders, who are surely far more spiritually enlightened than you (?), would call ex-l that.
Have you said everything you want to say on this forum?
Have you read and understood anything we have researched?
Do you have any concern for the victims at all? These are external, third party reports we are documenting now.
Arvind, we've asked you on more than one occasion, how long have you been involved with the BKWSU and at what level or depth. You have not answered us. It's very difficult to know how to answer unless you tell us.
What is the significance of reporting and discussing all these cases?
In the Murli the god spirit of the BKWSU used to say, "not a hair on your head will be harmed". He guaranteed that he would protect BKs, "like a mother cat cares for her kittens". Those are direct Murlis quotes (... which is why I ask how much of a BK you are and how often you study the BK scripture).
Why does the god spirit of the BKs tell his devotees that he will protect them and, "not a hair on your head will be harmed" ... and then these things happen?
And these things do happen. BKs have been sexually abused, children have been sexual abused, Sisters have been raped, murder, committed violence suicides, BK ripped off by other BKs, families split up etc ...
This is a classical problem in philosophy, it is not new. Indeed, Ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus (341–270 BC) expressed similarly as follows ...
Epicurus wrote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Related to the god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris it's easier.
If the god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris is the Ocean of Knowledge, why does get so many facts so wrong?
If the god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris is the Ocean of Truth, why does he say things that are not true?
If the the god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris is the Seer of the Three Aspects of time, why does he make wrong predictions?
If the god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris makes promises, why does he not carry them out? And what do think of and you call someone who does not?
The simple answer is. He is none of the above, and his promises are worth nothing.
The moral and ethical responsibilities of someone who claims to be the Supreme God and the God of all religions are somewhat higher than the moral and ethical responsibilities of an impure, imperfect human being.
Perhaps we can discuss how many times higher? On a scale of 1 to a million, how much higher would you say they are?
For me, a god or even a truly religious person would be humble and consistent. They would either keep their word, or not give it. They would not state what they did not know and would never make predictions they could not guarantee. What they said would be accurate and checkable. These are just simple things even simple human beings could manage.
Why cannot the BK god spirit nor their so called "Father of Humanity"?