Arbit wrote:I agree with most of your post ex-l, a rare occurrence!
The truth should always rises above all divisions ...
I suggest, from the Sakar Murlis, that part of their core sentiments ...
and I mean the core sentiments of the core group within BKism (I always separate the leaders or BKs from their adherents or followers) ... is even deeply condescending, manipulative and contemptuous towards "Indians" or "Hindus".
Again, a grosser exaggerations of the relationship between these/those Sindhis (the Bhaibunds) and Indian Hindus as a whole. Remember the old Gujerati saying, "if you meet a Sindhi and a cobra on the road, kill the Sindhi first".
Generally, generalisations and even prejudices have some reason and truth within them. The background to that sentiment above (and it really only applies to the Sindhi merchants first and foremost, obviously they had their scholars and saints too), lies in their attitude and relationship to Indian Hindus ... which is a different topic but related to their attitude towards Christians and Christianity.
These carpetbagger merchants did not produce anything of their own. They were entrepreneurs (literally, "take from inbetween"). They took the crafts produced in one area by other tribes, sold them at a profit to others, and increased profits by avoid paying taxes as much as possible.
What a better way to avoid paying taxes than starting a religion or "charity" in order to to 'serve oneself', e.g. the British BKWSU sending back £500,000 per year to the Indian BK headquarters to do what ...
while magically not paying their jet setting British leaders any wages (I wonder where they get their money?).
In my analysis, the Sindhis BK just evolved from trading in others' trinkets, to trading the trinkets of other people's religions and philosophies.
Look at the gross contempt for Christians and Hindus contained within the Sakar Murlis and other original documents that ... allegedly ... "God" was supposed to spout.
It's a mixture of ignorance (at what those societies were/had achieved), jealousy and hate ... but not bad enough to stop them trading in their icons and ideas.
Of course, now the problem is most of the "original Sindhi Jewels" have died off and their influence is waning. The form still exists, and much of their attitude, but their empire is not being over run by Hindus and Christians turning BKism back into their original religions .. and I don't mean the "deity religion".
BKism *hugely* ripped off Krishnaism elevativing its business man god to god Krishna (and god Brahma) status. Perhaps what Christianity begged/borrowed/stole from Vendanta/Krishna worship - and which way the influence went - is a whole other discussion.
From: "
Christian Elements In Later Krishnaism And In Other Hinduistic Sects" by Lydia G. Robinson
On the other hand, there exists between Christianity and Krishna-ism an intrinsic relationship which explains the susceptibility of the latter to Christian influences.
Meanwhile, all over India today ... "
Hare Krishna ... Hare Krishna ... Hare Krishna ... Rama Rama Rama ... Oh, hold on, it's the BKs! I am confused"
I am confused? The BKs are both confused and confusing of others ... confusing others in order to control and exploit them. Borrowing from others' religion, philosophy, even businessspeak, to use their memes as hooks in order to reel them in.
- Hare Krishna ... Hare Krishna ... Hare Krishna ... Rama Rama Rama ... oh, hold on, it's the BKs! I am confused!
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