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In my opinion these words have no definite contextual meaning. They mean many different things to many different people.

Sorry if that's not a very spiritual answer .

Mr Green wrote:In my opinion these words have no definite contextual meaning. They mean many different things to many different people.

Yes, that is the problem ... dumped into the mire of subjectivism. They should be given standardized meanings for all except poets. I use the terms as follows;

Soul is at the BKs understand it, the little eternal seed. Spirit being the part the BKs have not a clue about, don't teach and ignore ... all the subtle, emotional, causal, astral bodies stuff. The stuff souls that are floating around without a physical body have or require and that is every one from spooks to higher beings.

Chi, meridians etc I would put down as energies of the physical body. But where the dividing lines are and who they interoperate, I do not know. I wish soemone knew and that we had been able to study this stuff. It is why I signed up to a "spiritual university".

"Spirit" is generally used as the term for a spook. "Spiritual" mostly completely devalued by overuse in the West to mean as much as "nice" and used to sell everything from perfume to interior decoration to underwear. It is just all "advertising man's" territory now which reminds me of Mike George. Did he never post?

A “spirit” and a “soul” are one and the same as a ”car” and an “automobile”. It is said for the point of light.

Andrey wrote:A “spirit” and a “soul” are one and the same as a ”car” and an “automobile”. It is said for the point of light.

"In your opinion ...". But then there is the automobile and the effect of the automobile. Is the automobile the paintwork or the energy it uses and the damage is does to the environment?

The soul essence of the automobile has a huge spirit that pervades future and past through time and extensively through matter and into our societies.

What are the other psychic, spiritual or energetic bodies called?
What is that which spooks or angelic beings express about them or require whilst not seed-like?

My churning about the 'soul' and 'spirit';

'Soul' is an English word used by different people for different meanings. BKs have added their own confusion to it.

'Spirit' is the liquid you need when you want to come out of this confusion.

Soul is more your Marvin Gaye. Whereas Spirit were 70's Prog Rock .

ex-BK 007 wrote:My churnings ... 'Spirit' is the liquid you need when you want to come out of this confusion.

Spirit is not "churned" ... it is "shaken, not stirred" .

shivsena wrote:'Spirit', on the other hand, means those souls who have left their bodies and who do not have their own body to express themselves; they enter into other person's body (as per their karma) and possess and express themselves through other person's body (like Dada Lekhraj Brahma who has left his body in 1969 and is expressing his thoughts through the medium of Gulzar Dadi)

• Do you think that the souls as spirits have a sublte body different from the Avyakt body?
• Do they require energy to sustain themselves? (Individuals often say when ghosts appear that rooms or people become cold)
• Would you say that Lekhraj Kirpalani/BapDada entering Gulzar is a type of possession?
• Does Gulzar lose energy and where does she go?
• Why does she loose all consciousness rather than float around and witness it?

And, as an aside, do you mean "Ghost" (1990) with Demi Moore, Patrick Swayze and Whoopie Goldberg or a Bollywood movie?

Dangerously romantic and emotional for BK Brahmins but an excellent and entertaining portrayal of this stuff. you could watch it from a metaphorical point of view.

As was the even better, and safe for BK Brahmins, "The Sixth Sense" (1999) with Bruce Willis.

Mr Green wrote:.. Spirit were 70's Prog Rock .

... with a psychedelic edge

howiemac wrote:

Mr Green wrote:Spirit were 70's Prog Rock .

with a psychedelic edge

Hey, a man with taste.

Mr Green wrote:Hey, a man with taste.

... and I thought the Dinosaurs died out at the beginning of the Copper Age. Nope, they lived on right up until the end of Confluence.

Hahahahahahaha ...