joel wrote:* Do actor/actresses display sexual or erotic attitudes?
* Might they have some of those attitudes in real life?
* If they were free to act on their desires with directors or other actors/actresses, would they do so?
* Do you think they had a good time?
I honestly don't know. Baba said not to watch Bollywood movies because they will make you want to get married like he did (... He must have seen a really good one). Luckily, he did not forbid Bergman or Kurosawa.
First of all, despite a population of 1 Billion or whatever, I cannot work out where and when anyone in India finds any privacy in which to functionally procreate at all. Never mind engage any artistry into the proceedings. So my presumption is that sex life in India is on a par with amoebas.
Secondly, super-elite actors and actress are hardly representative of the majority of Indians.
Thirdly, those are just movies and just as Hollywood does not actually bear, or should that be bare, much relationship with reality in the West, I cannot see how Bollywood does to some arranged marriage in the villages where we are basically only 50 years away from roasting spinsters on the funeral pyre and still with arms reach of regular beatings or acid attacks. (I guess you know that the regular thing to do in India, if a girl does not fancy you, is throw acid in her face so no one else will her).
Some of that mock-Madonna hip thrusting stuff they do in their dances looks so harsh and mechanical that it leads me to suggest that it is merely theoretical.
To me it looks like there is sensuality on the surface but that the sexual it is all about suppression and religious projection, i.e. the gropes and gopis. Has there been a Indian Kinsey Report? Are the women not all meant to be virgin brides? I honestly know nothing about sexuality within India apart from; on one hand Bollywood and on the other hand medieval horror stories of child brides, rape and prostitution. The negative experience of most white girls in India suggests that the guys on the street are not getting any.
I appreciate modern technology is changing things, the young now have sex in internet cafe booths; and there is a middle class, so I dare say they have discovered wifeswapping and adultery ...
but, honestly, what are the sexual attitudes of India and how can we not connect the BK missionary's position to them?
I am also not at all sure how you define "spiritual" Joel. Mature is easier. "Spiritual" all to often just means "nice" these days. But I agree that life throws up very difficult counter examples to BK lore ... the institutional response to which would be that number two put down after bhagats, that is they are merely "new souls" ( ... spit). If it does not fit into to the BK picture, then they must be new souls, burning their karma up just having their Golden Age in our Hellish Iron Age. Easy ...
• I absolutely agree on the "infantilization" of BK fllowers and the exploitation of infantile psychology by the Seniors. Grist for another topic of its own.