The Brahmakumaris' adoption of Bhakti rituals

Now, I am sure that the PBKs will prove that there is no indications to do these in the Murlis and plenty to oppose them. I would like to know the history of when they were started and by whom.

The foundation for the practice of Bhakti were laid by Brahma Baba himself. Well one cannot specify the date, but if the PBK version of the Yagya history is to be believed, ShivBaba started playing a role of mother through Brahma Baba from 1948 which lasted upto 18th Jan, 1969. During this period, foundation for many rituals were laid.

I have come to know from a PBK Sister who was present during the period of Brahma Baba that Brahma Baba used to tie rakhis to BK couples, who in turn would promise to lead a celibate life.

The foundation for Bhog and offering of sweet water was also laid during the times of Brahma Baba because these rituals were practised during his times, although it might have come to existence in the 1960s, mostly after Mama's demise.

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

It is said that whatever Brahma Kumaris do the world follows it. Because BK's are the foundation of the Human Tree.

Yes, I know that the Brahmakumaris say that they invented everything in other world religions last Cycle, 5,000 years ago, but I don't believe that because, of course, this Kalpa they picked, chose and copied some things from Bhakti religions and ignore others. I also know one individual that was responsible for introducing one ritual.

Also, if it is true that they invented everything in other religious, why is it "selective"? Why some aspects and practises and not others, e.g. why do the Jews and Moslems practise circumcision and the Africans female circumcision, Kali worshipper human sacrifice, Roman Catholic drinking wine etc?

That answer is just one of the standard mental plugs, and a rather audacious claim, that the Brahmakumaris offer. There is no evidence to suggest it is true.

The Murlis tell us not to follow human gurus and not to practise Bhakti ... and yet why do middle manager and senior Brahmakumaris promote and practise such rituals?

To me it is just to entertain their BK followers and keep the Bhagat sanskars (the old religious habits) of their BK followers. They were/are afraid of doign anything new but are happy to do things they did in the past.

So Lekhraj Kirpalani did some, like the giving of nectar on Thursday (does that still happen at every center, even in the West?). Is that not about submission to the center-in-charge? The question remains

... when were how and such practises introduced? Cracking a coconut on a new center, for example?

And if they can keep doing Hindu ones, why cant other people from other religions start introducing their ones?

It's all about drawing clients, it seems. If your market is Indian masses, you have to feed them with some rituals they know to keep them happy.

If it is VIPs and corporate Managers, you will take that stuff out and make them happy some other way. Rank Westerners are supposed to be happy with anything Baba says or gives. No question allowed or else you are a bad boy.

8) It is said that whatever Brahma Kumaris do the world follows it. Because BK's are the foundation of the Human Tree.

Does that include secretism, deception and lying ... how about theft?

Does that include secretism, deception and lying ... how about theft?

And historical revision, secret services and propaganda?

It's all about drawing clients, it seems. If your market is Indian masses, you have to feed them with some rituals they know to keep them happy.

It also about power ... "Bhakti (other religions) are bad ... you do not do them ... even if they were your comfort ... but we will give you a little bit of them back when we chose ... improved even ... come to us ... tell us ... follow us ..."

In BK life, if you were caught performing other religious functions or rituals and having alternative beliefs, you would be subtley derided, condemned, cautioned and if it went too far, barred from their centers - which are your lifeline to the One and Only God and eternal salvation ... and, of course, not get ahead in their system of status and reward.

But it is OK for them to because they are pure and you are impure, and they have a direct connection to God and yours is faulted ...

I have come to know from a PBK Sister who was present during the period of Brahma Baba that Brahma Baba used to tie rakhis to BK couples, who in turn would promise to lead a celibate life.

The above fact has been confirmed in one of the recent revised Sakar Murlis published by the BKs as follows:

"Kal ek yugal Baba kay paas aaya, Baba nay samjhaya - bachhey tum Bap say behad ka varsa nahee lengey. Aadha Kalpa nark may gotey khaakar dukhee huay ho, ab ek janma vish chod nahee saktey ho? Swarg ka maalik ban-ney ke liye pavitra nahee banengey. Bola - hai toh difficult. Baba nay kaha kaam chita par baithney liye jismaani Brahman nay tumhara hathiyala baandha, ab tum gyaan chitaa par baith swarg kay Maharaja Maharani bano. Toh kaha aapko sahayata deni padegi. Baba nay kaha - Shivbba ko Yaad kartey rahengey toh jaroor sahayataa milegi. Bola haan Yaad karoonga. Jhat Baap say hathiyala baandha, angoothi bhi pahnee. Yah BapDada hai na. Behad ka Baap kahtey hain bachhey tum pavitra nahee banongey toh swarg may bhi nahee chal sakengey. Yah antim janma pavitra nahee ban-ney say tum raajaai kho baithengey."

"Yesterday, a couple came to meet Baba. Baba explained - Children, will you not obtain the unlimited inheritance from the Father? You have become sorrowful by plunging in the hell for half a Kalpa. Now cannot you renounce poison (of sex-lust) for one birth? Will you not become pure to become the masters of heaven? He said - It is difficult. Baba said - In order to seat you on the funeral pyre of sex-lust the worldly Brahmin tied hathiyala (probably a piece of cloth) between you. Now you sit on the funeral pyre of knowledge and become the Maharaja-Maharani of heaven. So he said - You would have to help. Baba said - If you keep remembering ShivBaba then you would certainly get help. He said - I would certainly remember. He immediately got a hathiyala tied by the Father, and also wore a ring. This is BapDada, is not he? The unlimited Father says - Children if you do not become pure, then you would not be able to enter into heaven also. If you do not become pure in this last birth, you would lose the kingship." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 22.01.07, pg.3 published by BKs in Hindi and narrated by Father Shiv through Brahma Baba and translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator).

The above Murli point proves that the ritual of tying rakhi or giving rings was started by Brahma Baba only, which was further strengthened by the post-69 administrators of BK institution.

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

"Baap kahtey hain, bachhey shaanti may raho. Jhaanjh aadi bajaanaa, radiyaan maarnaa yah sab hai Bhakti kee nishaaniyaan." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 28.06.07, pg 3)

“The Father says - children remain peaceful. Playing Jhaanjh (a musical instrument), crying, all these are indications/signs of Bhakti.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 28.06.07, pg 3 published by BKs)

BKs have been producing audio cassettes of songs ever since Brahma Baba left his body.

There are many BK songs that produce sad feelings by expressing sorrow over not getting the chance to see Brahma Baba. Brahma Baba is requested to come back through these songs.

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

Quoted from the BK Section for record purpose:

51.

"Baap kahtey hain mai hee aakar devataa ban-ney ka karma sikhlata hoon. Yah toh badaa sahaj hai. Vah bahut Yagya kartey hain. Yahaan tum koi Yagya havan kartey ho kya? Dhoop bhi khusboo kay liye jalaatey. Baaki yahaan karmakaand kee koi baat nahee." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 22.10.07, pg 2)

"The Father says - I alone come and teach (you) the actions to become deities. It is very easy. They organize many yagyas. Do you organize any Yagya havan (sacrificial fire) here? You burn the incense sticks also for fragrance. As regards the religious rituals (karmakaand), there is no question of karmakand here." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 22.10.07, pg 2 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

But what about Bhog, Amrit, pictures of Brahma Baba, Mama, Dadis and senior Brahmin souls, the bhandari (donation box), garlands, chariots, etc. etc.????? Can they be included as religious rituals or traditions of the path of knowledge??????

Regards,
OGS,
Arjun

Quoted from the BK section for record purpose:

63.

"Dekho kitney Ved, shaastra, Upnishad banaaye hain, parantu ek bhi yathaarth arth ko nahee jaantey. Yathaarth arth na jaan-ney kay kaaran waste of time, waste of money kartey hain. Baap samjhaatey hain tumney bahut-bahut mandir, Ved, Upnishad, aadi banaaye hain. Yagya-jap-tap kiye hain. Kitnaa paisa kharch kiya hai. Yah Baap kisko samjhaatey hain, jo jeetey jee mar-kar Baap kay bantey hain. Toh tum Baap kay baney ho toh goya jeetey jee marey huay ho. Toh ab Baap kay saath chalney kee taiyyaari karnee hai. Yah nahee ki vahaan tumhari koi birthday ya barsee aadi manaayengey. Yahaan Gandhi kee kitney dhoomdhaam say manaatey hain. Aisey nahee ki ShivBaba gyaan dekar chalaa jaayega toh fir tum Satyug may unki jayanti manaayengey, nahee. Aadhakalpa joa bhi shareeer chodengey toh unki barsee, kriyakarma nahee karengey. Gaudaan karnaa, pitron ko khilana, aadi nahee hoga kyonki daan kiya jaata hai ki doosrey janma may miley. Satyug may tum is samay kee praalabdh khaatey ho. Toh Bhakti kee rasam-rivaaz aur gyaan kee rasam-rivaaz may antar hai. Joa bhi vishaalbuddhi vaaley hain vah in baton ko samjhengey aur jo Kalpa pehley vishaalbuddhi baney hongey vahee ab banengey kyonki fir say vahee part bajaanaa hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli, dinaank 28.10.07, pg 1)

"Look, so many Vedas, scriptures, Upanishads have been created, but not even one person knows the actual meaning. Due to the lack of understanding of the actual meaning they waste time, waste money. The Father explains you have built many temples and created many Vedas, Upanishads etc. You have organized Yagya, chanted (the names of God) and performed tap (intense meditation). You have spent so much money. Whom does the Father explain this? (He explains to) those who die while being alive and become the Father’s children. So, you have become the Father’s children. So, it is as if you have died while being alive. So, you should make preparations to proceed with the Father. It is not as if someone will celebrate your birthday or death anniversary there. Here Gandhi’s (birthday/anniversary) is celebratd so grandly. It is not as if ShivBaba will give knowledge and go away. Then you will celebrate his birthday in the Golden Age; no. For half a Kalpa whoever leaves the body, their death anniversary, or funeral rites will not be organized. Donating cows, feeding the ancestors, etc. will not be prevalent because donation is given to obtain returns in the next birth. In the Golden Age you receive the fruits of the present time. So, there is a difference between the customs and traditions of Bhakti and the customs and tradition of knowledge. Those who possess a broad intellect will understand these matters and those who may have developed a broad intellect in the previous Kalpa would only become now because the same part is to be played again." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 28.10.07, pg 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba; translated by a PBK; the words within brackets in the English version have been added by the translator to clarify the meaning)

Are we not celebrating death anniversaries of some of the Brahmin souls in the Yagya?

Baba is telling that "It is not as if ShivBaba will give knowledge and go away. Then you will celebrate his birthday", but aren't we celebrating his birthdays (giving specific numbers) as if ShivBaba has gone away????

Are we not preparing a huge stock of scriptures for being read by Brahmin souls, while hiding away the actual versions of God, i.e. Gita or Murlis?????

Regards,
On Godly Service,
Arjun