I write from a non-Indian viewpoint.
So, a bit of a shock to find out that God is not Indian?, what next, the sky is actually green and the sea pink.
There is one thing that I have never been comfortable with (well, you know how it is, everything BK is the truth and perfect), and that is being called a double foreigner. It sounds like that old Victorian English of Brahma's. But however you dress it up, it sounds racist. I am the child of God, and my spiritual Father is the Father of all souls, so tell me, what on earth has that got to do with being of a certain nationality/ body type? What gives people the right to impose this nonsense upon others? In God's name?
The fact is, many non-Indian BKs, ex-BKs in particular, have had enough of the Indian sect thing, and Gurus. If you want to annoy me, sell me an Indian cult/sect or guru. PBKs? you are model 2 BKs and are no doubt finding that there is not a constant stream of "Westerners" (another spurious label) heading your way because there is apparently little difference between yourselves and the BKs. I don't care if you have Shiva or not. We can contact Shiva any time. We non-Indians are not as interested or obsessed with Gurus. In the West, the "Guru" is shown little respect and so anything which remotely resembles punting your "Guru""cult" or "sect" in someones face is unacceptable, even if you have Shiva.
Anyway, what has Shiva ever done for me? Probably more than I realise, otherwise it is not enough to have me jumping on any Indian cult bandwagon. But then, Shiva has never punted an Indian cult or guru in my face. Anyway, two lives - maybe - of this and all I get is Indian cults and Gurus in my face. In short, we have grown out of the guru thing and it is patronising to try to sell something to someone, something which they have just let go of. So India, make sure that you are as advanced as you think and are not lost in the dark ages of cults and Gurus because we are moving on now.
If I am not making myself clear, then ... I personally am sick of people shoving gurus Brahma and Dixit on to me. I want nothing to do with any of them. It is the past, we are moving on now, forward. Not just in the present but it has never ever been part of the teachings or practise to worship a guru, and that includes God Father Shiva. Is Shiva even an Indian word? Are you sure? Is the Supreme Soul really an Indian, a BK, a Brahmin? The answer is NO!
Shoving God off the ball again, pushing God out of the universal position/role? The very soul who is supposed to be promoted, or is there a lie lying dormant waiting to take birth in the form of some revelation. Let us get all the lies cleared up and out of the way then we may all move forward, are you listening up there?
But hold on, there is confusion in the Brahmin family (NEVER) with regards to God's whereabouts and current role ... yet Shankar is part of BK teachings. Shankar has always been left out of BK teachings, deliberately. We deserve better than this, however, personally, I am willing to be lied to and allow others to walk all over me, out of humility and putting others forward of course. Well the worm has turned, you have been warned.
Now, is that God my spiritual Father or God the guru? or God the Brahmin or Indian (even)? If you are of an Indian background and are full of pride that God landed on your patch, consider that a third faction could emerge out of Brahmin chaos and Indians with cults and gurus may find yourselves with the ball at your feet, then realise that it is a ball which one of the spectators have thrown on to the pitch but your head was down, focussed on local things and so missed the bigger picture.
So come on, give me your best shot, sell me your Indian cults and gurus, come on, I am here in this thread, vulnerable, insecure and looking for understanding, blind. Come and sell me your Brahma/Dixit guru's, and their respective cults ... or indeed God as a guru, if you have time to consider God over these other gurus that is.
Did I mention getting a role for yourself and keeping all others out in case they steal MY role, something which is impossible anyway. This is reflected in the BKs fear of the truth, and of course in the fact that Arjun is not at all interested in unity and harmony within the greater Brahmin family. (Someone informed me of this). So come on, sell me your wares. Just as it is impossible to steal my spiritual Father and make that one your own to do with what you wish for personal benefit, God is only on your side when you are on God's side, or AT God's side, and there is absolutely nothing Indian or Brahmin about that.
Indeed, there should never be any need for anyone to mention the names of these gurus outwith this thread, so, whenever you feel the urge to thrust your guru on to others, especially upon those who have grown to dislike guru worship, you can do it in this thread. Never again will we hear the name Brahma or Dixit then other than in this thread about gurus, as I have said, here I am, sell me your Indian cult/ sect/ Guru. Far from reacting, it may well be that some of us have been very tollerant. You know, I could really do with a guru to worship right now, it is just what I am looking for.
How long will it be before "double foreigners" stop accepting everything BK simply because it has to be "the truth", it has to be the only way, it has to be Indian even? Well I am not, so stuff your gurus, it is completely and utterly against the teachings. You are all going to have to justify this nonsense now, or shut the fakir up. Double foreigner? or simply racism? and remember, we are creating one world based on transparency. The last Murli which was spoken is so transparent only a few received it.
And Dadi Janki is not a guru, she is my spiritual Brother, or at least that is the greatest compliment I could ever pay that soul. And, of course, Shiva is also my spiritual Brother. Shiva is a soul playing a role. While the BKs will be quick to take the credit for creating souls with understanding, in my experience it has all come from beyond. There is no reason therefore for anyone to get an ego about what God is doing.
I wish I had a Guru and Indian cult to mince my head. I need it like I need a hole in my head. Of course, cults and Gurus can be found everywhere you go and not just India. So come on, sell me your guru, I want it, I need the fix badly. It is just what I need after years, lives even, of BK bull.
So, a bit of a shock to find out that God is not Indian?, what next, the sky is actually green and the sea pink.
There is one thing that I have never been comfortable with (well, you know how it is, everything BK is the truth and perfect), and that is being called a double foreigner. It sounds like that old Victorian English of Brahma's. But however you dress it up, it sounds racist. I am the child of God, and my spiritual Father is the Father of all souls, so tell me, what on earth has that got to do with being of a certain nationality/ body type? What gives people the right to impose this nonsense upon others? In God's name?
The fact is, many non-Indian BKs, ex-BKs in particular, have had enough of the Indian sect thing, and Gurus. If you want to annoy me, sell me an Indian cult/sect or guru. PBKs? you are model 2 BKs and are no doubt finding that there is not a constant stream of "Westerners" (another spurious label) heading your way because there is apparently little difference between yourselves and the BKs. I don't care if you have Shiva or not. We can contact Shiva any time. We non-Indians are not as interested or obsessed with Gurus. In the West, the "Guru" is shown little respect and so anything which remotely resembles punting your "Guru""cult" or "sect" in someones face is unacceptable, even if you have Shiva.
Anyway, what has Shiva ever done for me? Probably more than I realise, otherwise it is not enough to have me jumping on any Indian cult bandwagon. But then, Shiva has never punted an Indian cult or guru in my face. Anyway, two lives - maybe - of this and all I get is Indian cults and Gurus in my face. In short, we have grown out of the guru thing and it is patronising to try to sell something to someone, something which they have just let go of. So India, make sure that you are as advanced as you think and are not lost in the dark ages of cults and Gurus because we are moving on now.
If I am not making myself clear, then ... I personally am sick of people shoving gurus Brahma and Dixit on to me. I want nothing to do with any of them. It is the past, we are moving on now, forward. Not just in the present but it has never ever been part of the teachings or practise to worship a guru, and that includes God Father Shiva. Is Shiva even an Indian word? Are you sure? Is the Supreme Soul really an Indian, a BK, a Brahmin? The answer is NO!
Shoving God off the ball again, pushing God out of the universal position/role? The very soul who is supposed to be promoted, or is there a lie lying dormant waiting to take birth in the form of some revelation. Let us get all the lies cleared up and out of the way then we may all move forward, are you listening up there?
But hold on, there is confusion in the Brahmin family (NEVER) with regards to God's whereabouts and current role ... yet Shankar is part of BK teachings. Shankar has always been left out of BK teachings, deliberately. We deserve better than this, however, personally, I am willing to be lied to and allow others to walk all over me, out of humility and putting others forward of course. Well the worm has turned, you have been warned.
Now, is that God my spiritual Father or God the guru? or God the Brahmin or Indian (even)? If you are of an Indian background and are full of pride that God landed on your patch, consider that a third faction could emerge out of Brahmin chaos and Indians with cults and gurus may find yourselves with the ball at your feet, then realise that it is a ball which one of the spectators have thrown on to the pitch but your head was down, focussed on local things and so missed the bigger picture.
So come on, give me your best shot, sell me your Indian cults and gurus, come on, I am here in this thread, vulnerable, insecure and looking for understanding, blind. Come and sell me your Brahma/Dixit guru's, and their respective cults ... or indeed God as a guru, if you have time to consider God over these other gurus that is.
Did I mention getting a role for yourself and keeping all others out in case they steal MY role, something which is impossible anyway. This is reflected in the BKs fear of the truth, and of course in the fact that Arjun is not at all interested in unity and harmony within the greater Brahmin family. (Someone informed me of this). So come on, sell me your wares. Just as it is impossible to steal my spiritual Father and make that one your own to do with what you wish for personal benefit, God is only on your side when you are on God's side, or AT God's side, and there is absolutely nothing Indian or Brahmin about that.
Indeed, there should never be any need for anyone to mention the names of these gurus outwith this thread, so, whenever you feel the urge to thrust your guru on to others, especially upon those who have grown to dislike guru worship, you can do it in this thread. Never again will we hear the name Brahma or Dixit then other than in this thread about gurus, as I have said, here I am, sell me your Indian cult/ sect/ Guru. Far from reacting, it may well be that some of us have been very tollerant. You know, I could really do with a guru to worship right now, it is just what I am looking for.
How long will it be before "double foreigners" stop accepting everything BK simply because it has to be "the truth", it has to be the only way, it has to be Indian even? Well I am not, so stuff your gurus, it is completely and utterly against the teachings. You are all going to have to justify this nonsense now, or shut the fakir up. Double foreigner? or simply racism? and remember, we are creating one world based on transparency. The last Murli which was spoken is so transparent only a few received it.
And Dadi Janki is not a guru, she is my spiritual Brother, or at least that is the greatest compliment I could ever pay that soul. And, of course, Shiva is also my spiritual Brother. Shiva is a soul playing a role. While the BKs will be quick to take the credit for creating souls with understanding, in my experience it has all come from beyond. There is no reason therefore for anyone to get an ego about what God is doing.
I wish I had a Guru and Indian cult to mince my head. I need it like I need a hole in my head. Of course, cults and Gurus can be found everywhere you go and not just India. So come on, sell me your guru, I want it, I need the fix badly. It is just what I need after years, lives even, of BK bull.