andrey wrote:First tell how pure are you and how do you measure. Then you may ask about me only, how can I know or tell about anyone else? However, we see the everpure Shiv inside.
Andrey asked me this question on another thread. How pure am I? Well, I am happy to accept 0.01% ... Or whatever the least degree of purity that is possible. Please see another post regarding the entrance of Shiva.
I asked the question, "how pure in Virendra Dev Dixit?" and ran headlong into a brickwall of Bhakti. Its an honest and straightforward question. I have to hazard a guess that it cannot be 100% otherwise he would not been here ... And if there is even a 0.01% impurity, then that gives grounds for ambiguities and errors.
My question here is, however, "What is Purity?"
The BKWSU and PBKs go on about the importance of "purity" but what is it?
On the most basic of levels it appears to mean "no sex" but I have to say that I have met some very stupid virgins, some very mean virgins, some overeating indulgent virgins, some hung-up-about-sex-and-sexually-charged virgins; and there are many non-BK virgins that are not automatically assured of a place in heaven ... So "no sex" cannot, on its own, be enough.
So, what it is about sex that is so bad?
If an individual has one partner, a husband or wife by Bhakti ceremony or communist legal procedure, and makes love to them 1,000 times;
- is that person "more pure" than someone that does the same and does not marry?
is that person "more pure" than someone that has 10 lovers in their lives and makes love to each of them 100 times?
Is a legal married couple in an arranged marriage who have sex without love in order to procreate "more pure" than an individual that makes love with two, three or four lovers in their lives that they actually "love"?
Are arranged marriages "more pure" than romantic liasons?
If it is the issue of "bonding" to other beings that challenges Shiva who wants all binds to be with Him?
It must, however, be said that the hang up with a public face or advertising of "purity" is a widespread in India, outside of BK circles. I would like to raise the issue of female "virginity" being tied up, as in many other patriarchal societies as well, with the financial costs, value and ownership of women as property in those societies and wonder how that translated into BK circles.
I would also like to suggesting that another definition of "purity" lies within not our bodies but our minds, e.g. in our one loyal and faithful relationship with the Shiva soul.
But is even that enough? Is it enough JUST to be loyal and faithful, or do we not have a responsibility to develop ourselves further as well? So what is the balance between this purity and self-development?
What is the balance and value of a soul that places emphasis on personal exploration and developed, which many even include relationships with other souls in bodies, versus a soul that stagnates in physical virginity? Who has done worse? A soul that goes off, loves another, learns a lesson and comes back and 10 virgins that sit around doing nothing and conspire to corrupt the teachings and practises?
Is life not a much more complex equation than the 1930s view dumped upon us by Lekhraj Kirpalani and his reaction to the complications within his own family?