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So I am a person who begins a sentence with so! But that apart I have a Scientific academic background and first discovered the BKs in around 1978 ish I think in London. I did The Knowledge (I was about 19) in a few days solid so it did not imbibe but I found it interesting. (I later did it again some 20 years later). What knocked me out was the power of the meditation. When I used to leave the centre in Kilburn it was as if I was at complete peace and nothing in the world mattered any more. I wanted to shout it from the rooftops.
Now I hadn't then or even later or now accepted the full knowledge. I was happy with much of it about being peaceful and imbibing values and even Karma made sense if nothing but from a practical point of view. I couldn't accept the 5000 year cycle thinking if it had to be true they were out by many billions of years! However that did not matter as the experience was out of this world. I did not get too close to the BKs later in that I did not "surrender" whatever that really means. I did not go to India either but I maintained contact for about 5 years almost daily or every other day. Attended morning class for a while too. (Never the 4Am one).
I hear many negative things about them and I can fully understand that if a person did get 100% hooked they might end up wasting some opportunities in life. In small enough doses though they were superb. I came to the conclusion that like the old joke about the horse shoe in the scientist's lab. That it works whether you believe in it or not!!
But what is it that causes that incredible feeling of wellbeing? Is it indeed a powerful soul waving his/her power upon us or just a state of mind? Also is there any likelihood it could be true, ie The Cycle? I don't know any more than the next person but maybe if we live in a computer simulation it may well be. This is the only circumstance I could see that makes sense. We still don't understand the quantum world and some interesting experiments with laser light seem to suggest the maybe the future can affect the past. The Noble prize was won (2022?) by the theory and proof of that the Universe is not locally real. What is it we really see with our own eyes?
When I was very young I remember floating into my own body from being floating through the air. I saw a small boy and then I was that small boy. Even then I thought that all of us were not really here in the physical and that the earth was like an illusion. We were somewhere else all together and we just experience reality this way like a play. The Murli is not all to be trusted as it has been tampered with, as we all know, but there are some passages that talk of us being able to see past present and future or ourselves and other souls (I think near the end of The Cycle). There rings a bell of truth about that which I cannot get out of my mind.
As the BKs themselves, it is patently obvious they are evolving into a religion. Irony is that they don't like religion or blind faith. It is interesting if you were a scholar of religion to study them in this way. I imagine that after Christ (assuming he existed) there would be similar goings on. Ritual creeping into things and the true meaning being slightly bent. Things added later etc. But let me finish by quoting a Prof I once heard talk in India who said he had a Dog. That dog was great, his best friend who could fetch balls and do the usual dog things! However, if he had to explain what the moon is and earth and sun to that dog, not only could that dog not understand, he would never be able to understand and neither would any dog!! Then he got to thinking what if humans are the same. Maybe there are things that humans not only cannot understand now but are incapable of ever understanding. That is probably how it is.
I treated the BKs like I would examining anything, by trying not to get too involved and keeping a safe distance where possible. Picking from The Tree what fruit I enjoy most and leaving the rest of others to consider. But there is no doubt I met some incredible people that left a lasting impression on me.
Now I hadn't then or even later or now accepted the full knowledge. I was happy with much of it about being peaceful and imbibing values and even Karma made sense if nothing but from a practical point of view. I couldn't accept the 5000 year cycle thinking if it had to be true they were out by many billions of years! However that did not matter as the experience was out of this world. I did not get too close to the BKs later in that I did not "surrender" whatever that really means. I did not go to India either but I maintained contact for about 5 years almost daily or every other day. Attended morning class for a while too. (Never the 4Am one).
I hear many negative things about them and I can fully understand that if a person did get 100% hooked they might end up wasting some opportunities in life. In small enough doses though they were superb. I came to the conclusion that like the old joke about the horse shoe in the scientist's lab. That it works whether you believe in it or not!!
But what is it that causes that incredible feeling of wellbeing? Is it indeed a powerful soul waving his/her power upon us or just a state of mind? Also is there any likelihood it could be true, ie The Cycle? I don't know any more than the next person but maybe if we live in a computer simulation it may well be. This is the only circumstance I could see that makes sense. We still don't understand the quantum world and some interesting experiments with laser light seem to suggest the maybe the future can affect the past. The Noble prize was won (2022?) by the theory and proof of that the Universe is not locally real. What is it we really see with our own eyes?
When I was very young I remember floating into my own body from being floating through the air. I saw a small boy and then I was that small boy. Even then I thought that all of us were not really here in the physical and that the earth was like an illusion. We were somewhere else all together and we just experience reality this way like a play. The Murli is not all to be trusted as it has been tampered with, as we all know, but there are some passages that talk of us being able to see past present and future or ourselves and other souls (I think near the end of The Cycle). There rings a bell of truth about that which I cannot get out of my mind.
As the BKs themselves, it is patently obvious they are evolving into a religion. Irony is that they don't like religion or blind faith. It is interesting if you were a scholar of religion to study them in this way. I imagine that after Christ (assuming he existed) there would be similar goings on. Ritual creeping into things and the true meaning being slightly bent. Things added later etc. But let me finish by quoting a Prof I once heard talk in India who said he had a Dog. That dog was great, his best friend who could fetch balls and do the usual dog things! However, if he had to explain what the moon is and earth and sun to that dog, not only could that dog not understand, he would never be able to understand and neither would any dog!! Then he got to thinking what if humans are the same. Maybe there are things that humans not only cannot understand now but are incapable of ever understanding. That is probably how it is.
I treated the BKs like I would examining anything, by trying not to get too involved and keeping a safe distance where possible. Picking from The Tree what fruit I enjoy most and leaving the rest of others to consider. But there is no doubt I met some incredible people that left a lasting impression on me.