17 Oct 2008
There is something interesting going on over in the Scientology department. Perhaps the BKWSU ought to make an alliance with then to fight for religion freedom? I may have a loose acceptance of karma philosophy but here is some social karma in action. Personally, I do not think Anonymous will actually achieve their goal, Scientology like the BKWSU just has too much money, too much property and too much inertia now to be "destroyed" from without ... but it does seem to be a jolly jape at the expense of the servants of Mammon taking themselves too seriously and society have a very serious right to discuss any element within it.
Scientology, like the BKWSO, threw its well-financed corporate weight around and the internet responded wipe out Scientology sites, flooding Google with criticism and a popular movement amongst started street demonstations against the threatening and suppressive tactics known as "Fair game" in which the business.
Its said that the Fair Game Doctrine has been used to harass, bankrupt and suppress anyone who speaks out against Scientology.
My take on Scientology is that there probably is something in the basic therapy techniques using lie detectors but it loses me with all this high-end, science-fiction mysticism, money making and threatening violence. I have had good friendships with "Free Zone" followers ( they give for free not charge high fees). I do not go along with all the very American big money and aggression syndrome that has possessed it. People have died in their hands and the whole new religious movement debate has been distorted not, in my opinion, by their cultic aspects ... but by their "New American" capitalist nature. They same we see stomping all aorund the world in other boots. They are, however, someone else's fight.
More and more, though, I am seeing parallels between the BKWSU leaders' suppressive mode and Scientology. For me, the BKs are the feminine version and Scientology the masculine version but they are both the same. I recommend Scientologists to go and urgently take the 7 Day Course and collaborate with the BKs in achieving world domination ... you both appear to think you are doing the same thing.
We read that the Brahma Kumaris response to the presence of this website on the internet was to do similar to what the scientologist protestors did and attempt to "bomb" Google and the search engines with Pro-BK material in an attempt to drown us out.
Its amazing how the general public has woken up. In January it launched a DDOS attack against the church's Web sites. Since then it's been organizing monthly protests outside various Scientology 'orgs.' Last month nearly 10,000 protestors gathered outside Scientology offices in 50 cities, many of them wearing Guy Fawkes masks a la the film V is for Vendetta. The Church of Scientology tried to get a [url=In January it launched a DDOS attack against the church's Web sites. Since then it's been organizing monthly protests outside various Scientology 'orgs.'
Last month nearly 10,000 protestors gathered outside Scientology offices in 50 cities, many of them wearing Guy Fawkes masks a la the film V is for Vendetta. (You'll find photos, videos, and more at WikiNews, another collaborative site.) The because tried to get a judge to block the March protest outside the because HQ in Clearwater but failed, in part because it couldn't accurately identify anyone in the organization. Though because named 22 members of Anonymous, some were merely bystanders at prior protests, and one was a barrista who worked at the Starbucks across the street.]judge to block the March protests[/url] but failed because it couldn't accurately identify anyone in the organization but they even filed a case against a barrista who worked at the Starbucks across the street from them. Read Project Chanology, see Anonymous Returns
Tom cares ... are we going to clean this world up?
These people and others disagree.
A Scientologist responses ...
Scientology, like the BKWSO, threw its well-financed corporate weight around and the internet responded wipe out Scientology sites, flooding Google with criticism and a popular movement amongst started street demonstations against the threatening and suppressive tactics known as "Fair game" in which the business.
May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed. -L. Ron Hubbard: PENALTIES FOR LOWER CONDITIONS, HCO Policy Letter of 18 October 1967.
Its said that the Fair Game Doctrine has been used to harass, bankrupt and suppress anyone who speaks out against Scientology.
My take on Scientology is that there probably is something in the basic therapy techniques using lie detectors but it loses me with all this high-end, science-fiction mysticism, money making and threatening violence. I have had good friendships with "Free Zone" followers ( they give for free not charge high fees). I do not go along with all the very American big money and aggression syndrome that has possessed it. People have died in their hands and the whole new religious movement debate has been distorted not, in my opinion, by their cultic aspects ... but by their "New American" capitalist nature. They same we see stomping all aorund the world in other boots. They are, however, someone else's fight.
More and more, though, I am seeing parallels between the BKWSU leaders' suppressive mode and Scientology. For me, the BKs are the feminine version and Scientology the masculine version but they are both the same. I recommend Scientologists to go and urgently take the 7 Day Course and collaborate with the BKs in achieving world domination ... you both appear to think you are doing the same thing.
We read that the Brahma Kumaris response to the presence of this website on the internet was to do similar to what the scientologist protestors did and attempt to "bomb" Google and the search engines with Pro-BK material in an attempt to drown us out.
Its amazing how the general public has woken up. In January it launched a DDOS attack against the church's Web sites. Since then it's been organizing monthly protests outside various Scientology 'orgs.' Last month nearly 10,000 protestors gathered outside Scientology offices in 50 cities, many of them wearing Guy Fawkes masks a la the film V is for Vendetta. The Church of Scientology tried to get a [url=In January it launched a DDOS attack against the church's Web sites. Since then it's been organizing monthly protests outside various Scientology 'orgs.'
Last month nearly 10,000 protestors gathered outside Scientology offices in 50 cities, many of them wearing Guy Fawkes masks a la the film V is for Vendetta. (You'll find photos, videos, and more at WikiNews, another collaborative site.) The because tried to get a judge to block the March protest outside the because HQ in Clearwater but failed, in part because it couldn't accurately identify anyone in the organization. Though because named 22 members of Anonymous, some were merely bystanders at prior protests, and one was a barrista who worked at the Starbucks across the street.]judge to block the March protests[/url] but failed because it couldn't accurately identify anyone in the organization but they even filed a case against a barrista who worked at the Starbucks across the street from them. Read Project Chanology, see Anonymous Returns
Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous.
Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who trust you, who call you leader, has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind--for the laughs--we shall expel you from the Internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form. We acknowledge you as a serious opponent, and we are prepared for a long, long campaign. You will not prevail forever against the angry masses of the body politic. Your methods, hypocrisy, and the artlessness of your organization have sounded its death knell.
You cannot hide; we are everywhere.
We cannot die; we are forever. We're getting bigger every day--and solely by the force of our ideas, malicious and hostile as they often are. If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many.
Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon's actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs (suppressive personalities).
Gradually as we merge our pulse with that of your "Church", the suppression of your followers will become increasingly difficult to maintain. Believers will wake, and see that salvation has no price. They will know that the stress, the frustration that they feel is not something that may be blamed upon Anonymous. No--they will see that it stems from a source far closer to each. Yes, we are SPs. But the sum of suppression we could ever muster is eclipsed by that of the RTC.Knowledge is free.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
Tom cares ... are we going to clean this world up?
These people and others disagree.
A Scientologist responses ...
I am a Scientologist.
Also know: every scrap of information you leave behind at our web sites, our call centers and our houses of worship is being relayed to a response team at our Clearwater headquarters. If you attack us, you are taking your freedom into your own hands. You will be identified, you will be named, you will be caught, you will be prosecuted and then you will be sued in civil court even as you sit in your jail cell. Be ready.
TRANSCRIPT for the hard of hearing.
Hello, leaders of Anonymous. We are the Church of Scientology. In the preceding weeks, you have come to our attention. Your campaign of hate. Your promulgation of bigotry. Your direct attacks on members of our faith. All of these things have caught our eye. With the rise of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, one thing has become clear. You represent a threat to us and our interests. We have therefore decided that you must be destroyed.
Despite your claims, it is clear your numbers are small. You consist of a loose band of small time hackers, child pornographers, schoolyard terrorists, and Internet bullies. You claim that for each of you who falls, ten more will rise to take his place. This is false. Do you seriously expect that a band of teenagers can destroy the Church of Scientology?
You post your plans on public repositories of criminal information. You call our centers from traceable numbers. You perpetrate denial of service attacks from your home computers. And we are watching.
You condemn the generous donations the faithful make to support our Church. Be aware that these donations have funded a private security apparatus which is matched by no other Church. For years we have endured persecution at the hands of bigots. Your suppressive activities are more of the same. And they will not be tolerated.
711chan has already fallen. Ebaumsworld.com. Partyvan.info. 4chan.org. 420chan.org. These sites are next. And taking them down will not be difficult. United States and international law enforcement has already expressed serious interest in what is posted on these sites. We have showed them every manner of illegal obscenity and filth as well as your plans to attack us. We are archiving everything.
With the help of these law enforcement agencies, we will find the identities of those who use these sites as a base for criminal activity. When you, the members of Anonymous, see your leaders taken into custody, you will flee. No others will rise to take your place. Your movement will splinter and fall before us.Religion is free.
Transcendence is free.
We are the Church of Scientology. Expect us.