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How to prevent someone from your family being trapped

Post30 Dec 2011

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Vishwanath Gurav wrote:Dear Sir/Madam,

I appreciate your effort towards putting a light into such a serious matter.

I want to ask about how to prevent someone from your family from getting in this trap and stop giving any amounts to any of these type of things.

They have started with slow method and I am sure they will get a lot ahead. This is just a starting phase and I really want to stop this. But can you suggest a methodical way to prevent my loved one from this.

Would really appreciate your help. I wont mind spending money on poor children's education but these people are making money on the name of spirituality.

Plz help,

Vishu
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Re: How to prevent someone from your family being trapped

Post02 Jan 2012

xxxx x. xxxxx wrote:For almost 15 years my parents have been members of the BK. They also forced me into it in the beginning until I moved away, leaving behind some scars of course. I have grown up and become mature about my issues but, how would I be able to help my parents get rid of this non sense? The problem is that they can not accept valid reasons, they are so stubborn, seems almost impossible for them to chance back to being plain old Catholics.

Since then, I have become an atheist, same as 2 of my Brothers. I would like to get them a book that indirectly attacks people with such beliefs. They have tone down their attack on other peoples believes and now they go about just following in what they blindly think is god’s teachings.

Anyways, I would like to get some info from you or even chat to people that went into the well as hard as my parents and finally realizing how wrong this was.

Thanks,

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Re: How to prevent someone from your family being trapped

Post03 Jan 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis

This is how they manipulate people with no self confidence. This not a meditation.
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Re: How to prevent someone from your family being trapped

Post03 Jan 2012

JPhilip wrote:no self confidence.

It no self confidence the same as, or part of, hypnotic susceptibility? I agree with you that what the BKs do not a meditation alone. Or perhaps many never even do it.

So what do you suggest to prevent someone in your family from being trapped by them and what should you suggest family members do if the other starts to fall or has become trapped? Many people ask.

I think there is another element and I do not know if there is a psychological explanation or model to confirm this theory.

Built up over decades of daily practise and ritual, the Brahma Kumaris have a relatively power collective energy which confirms all sort of untrue things in followers minds. Large parts of the religion are false but that does not matter, they are repeated constantly and adherents are subtly encouraged to believe in them and less subtly discouraged to question them.

This "collective unconscious", perhaps it is called, acts upon individuals enter into the religion. Someone a long time ago also suggest the idea of the group spirit or "egregore".

What I think is very clear is that a large part of "collective unconscious" or "egregore" is built upon madness. A 'god-possessed madness', starting from their founder Lekhraj Kirpalani and his long term devotees, which has been built up layer upon layer by countless devotees since until it is like a huge ball kinetic energy or electricity.

What seems to happen is that 'some people', never all (not even in one family), are lulled into a passive state by the hypnosis and are then "zapped" by this huge ball of madness. Imagine it like some kind of osmosis where the stronger energy state of the collective BK unconscious pours into the lower energy state of, generally, a vulnerable, weak, insecure, inexperience individual.

When this happens, the individual and much of their faculties are overwhelmed. They have not felt anything like it. They become "intoxicated", literally like they are drugged. They become over emotional. Their old identity is replaced by a ready made BK angelic mask. And the BKs are then able to start working on their minds ... and wallets ... to take control over them, separating them from their families and friends and so on.

Therefore, the number one way of preventing someone from your family being trapped by the BKs is not letting them anywhere near the BKs. Separating them clearly from anyone promoting the BKs. And pre-educating them about the BKs and their philosophy. No one is a rational state of mind would believe them and no one is a sober state of mind would gamble their life on what the BKs offer.

Once they have tasted the BK "drug" it is very hard to get them off it until, usually, about 6 months or at the most two years later. It will wears off and their old personality will re-emerge. Most will start to think again and leave. The race the BKs have is in that 6 months to capture the individual for life ... or take as much off them as possible.

Please bear in mind that the device the BKs use now is not direct conversion or evangelism. They use a virtual army of demi-BKs to do the initial recruiting ... BK supporters who do not follow the full principles, probably do not even know the full philosophy, and certain do not know the full history of the religion. For example, the woman in the BK Shivani TV shows. They dress not in white but in "lokik" clothes, live perhaps quite modern or even privileged lives, and are basically on the far outsides of the Brahma Kumaris system.

They use a very softly-softly approach and practise "taking the pulse" of individuals to see how much they can reveal to them. Largely, the Brahma Kumaris have become financially secure and so they are not so bothered about recruiting. In the past, if there were problems, they were more concerned about the financial damage and damage to their reputation it might cause ... but now they do not need to be, and so they are quite bold.

However, please remember, whatever the shop window dressing they adopt, nothing has really changed about their core philosophy and core ethics.

    Or as I would call it, their core lack of ethics.
"What to do if your family being trapped become trapped by the BKs?" is the next question to ask
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Re: How to prevent someone from your family being trapped

Post08 Feb 2012

My wife is also being sucked into this BK storm. I think meeting an ex BK might help. How can that be managed? I am ready to travel any distance for that purpose.

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gulatisk@hotmail.com wrote:My wife is also being sucked into this BK storm. I think meeting an ex BK might help. How can that be managed? I am ready to travel any distance for that purpose.

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whereabouts do you live friend?
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I live in kanpur (UP), India.
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Re: How to prevent someone from your family being trapped

Post11 Feb 2012

Most of the members here are in Europe or USA. If you really value your marriage, sell up and move somewhere well away from any BK centre, then you might have a chance.

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