moreclearnow wrote: But you tell me, whenever positive expressions are used here, why does it always come down to being branded as a BK and then instructed "go and provide Murlis". How can one do it if he is not in the BK system anymore?
Simple, go to your usual BK center and ask for them. If you are a believer, and you believe the god spirit of the BKs is God, then demand your birthright and share it freely with the rest of humanity like it says in the Murlis. I'll help you do so.
However, the issue of the Murlis really relates to other cases where BKs want to take but don't want to give. We're all about teaching BKs how to give ... In your case, I would say, "
go and write an accurate and detailed critique of the criticisms we have made here" and I will read it and respond.
There's no point in just say, "I like Brahma Kumaris ... Brahma Kumaris are good and you are bad". You've got to put up an intelligent argument.
Have you not specified somewhere on this forum that you were in to core of BKs only for a year or so?
What I wrote was that I remember I followed the principles fully and faultlessly for at least a year (
Amrit Vela, morning class, celibacy, food etc) and then I spent a few years half-in half-out, but could not remember how long.
How long did you fully follow the Maryadas for? Have you ever followed the Maryadas?
I am thinking you never did and so consequently have no idea what BKism is really all about.
You promoted me to check.
Million Millions of Peace was in 1986 and I left just before that so I must have been involved daily for about 4 years during which I spent 3 sitting at the feet of the top BKs and involved with such core activities as large service programmes, 7 day course teaching, and Murli transcribing. I think this site started in 2006 and I became involved in xBKchat before that, so add another 6 or 7 years of impartial, detached study equals approximately 10 years. More than enough to gain expertise.
I finally lost faith because I was sickened by all their self-advertising and chasing after rich and famous. I stayed on good terms recommending them to others cooperative, until I discovered all the recent corruption.
If I was more worldly minded I should have invested earning a PhD on Brahma Kumarism like BK Tamasin Ramsay, and then been able to get a much better paying job.
Your problems primarily are with Seniors ...
No, the "problems" are not mine. The problems are with the core philosophy, the false history, the extensively exaggerated marketing and organizational ethics, the way their treat followers. Beyond those the BK Seniors hardly exist in the equation, they are just parasites living off a false religion made from second ideas stolen from Hinduism and elsewhere.
Look, we've had this come up a number of times. The BKs put out a number of false reasons for the existence of this site to avoid from examining and addressing the actual issues we raise. And to distract their followers and stop them asking about the issues we raise.
Typical distractions are "clash of sanskars", "did not receive sufficient respect", "wanted to have vices" etc, and claim that there is no error with the teachings or their conduct and that all the problems are the fault of misinterpretations by cult adherents. They use fallacious 'ad hominem' attacks.
None of it is not true.
You are proclaiming that you are the authority of truth?
Well, Brahma Kumarism is not "the truth" and so I don't understanding why you are bringing it into question (...
actually, I do, it's a distraction, a cheap way of arguing, another fallacy or fallacious argument).
No, what I stated accurately and factually was that I and a few others have studied more about the history of the BK movement and the evolution of its philosophy that any BKs; and that most BKs are still involved in promoting a false and fallacious propaganda version.
That's perfectly true and we're making the BKs have to change their tune to stay ahead of their flock and avoid the embarrassment of exposure.