John wrote:What I'd like to know is will Shiva be playing a part via the third personality ... Will a new group arise VBKs?
arjun wrote:As far as I understand, Baba has told us that He enters in a definite form in the final Chariot (mukarrar rath) only. Although He may enter into the other two souls playing the role of Brahma and Vishnu as well as the 108 souls, but nobody can claim that Father Shiv enters into them. So, even when the role of Vaishnavi Devi begins among the PBKs/Brahmin family, The Knowledge would be continued to be given by Father Shiv through the personality of Prajapita only.
Dear Bhai Arjun,
With referece to your above quote, I have few questions.
1. You have agreed that Supreme Soul enters in few children other than His final Chariot (Mukarrar Rath). And you have said further that nobody can claim that Shiv enters in them. My question is that if nobody can claim, then how will the Mukarrar Rath (Prajapita) be revealed to His children. In my opinion, Supreme Soul Shiv will have to reveal His Mukarrar Rath to children, because it is He Who finds us, we cannot find Him. Not only will He reveal His Mukarrar Rath, even the Mukarrar Rath will accept that Shiv uses his Rath. Both, The Supreme Soul Shiv and the soul of the Mukarrar Rath will accept. Then only Prajapita can be declared or revealed to all souls of this Human Genealogical tree.
2. According to my knowledge, to this date, Supreme Soul Shiv has revealed and declared Himself to the world as Godfather Supreme Soul Shiv, only through the Chariot of Dada Lekharaj (Brahma Baba). And not only this, even the soul of Dada Lekharaj admitted it.
But, in the case of Veerendra Dev Dixit, it is said since 1976 that Shiv gives Knowledge through Dixitji. But, even after 30 years, neither has The Supreme Soul Shiv revealed himself directly to His children openly through Dixitji, nor does Dixitji declares directly that Supreme Soul Shiv gives knowledge through him.
* Sakar Murli dt. 24.4.85 page 2, last butone line: " BAP KAHATE HAIN MAIN IS Brahma TAN SE BOLTA HOON. MAIN HEE IS BACHHE KA RESPONSIBLE HOON. TUM HAMESHA SAMJHO ShivBaba BOLTE HAI. "
In English: Father says I talk through this Brahma body. I only am responsible for this child. You always think ShivBaba talks.
* Sakar Murli dt. 13.5.85 page 3: " MAHIMA SAREE US EK KEE HAI. MAIN TO UNKA RATH HOON. BAIL NAHEE HOON. "
In English: All praise is of that One. I am His Chariot. (I Am) not bull.
And now come very interesting points.
* Sakar Murli dt. 2.5.85 page 1: " BHAGWAN JAB AATE HAIN TO APNA PAREECHAY DAETEY HAIN. "
In English: When God comes He gives His introduction.
* Sakar Murli dt. 17.5.85 page 1: " BAP KO BAP DWARA HEE JANANE SE BAP KA VARSA MILTA HAI. BEHAD KE BAP SE VARSA TO SABKO MILTA HAI. EK BHI NAHEEN RAHATA JISKO VARSA NA MILE. BAP HEE AAKAR SABKO PAWAN BANAATE HAIN. NIRVAANADHAM MAIN LEY JATEY HAIN. "
In English: By Knowing Father through Father (we) get Father's property. Everybody gets property through unbounded Father. No one remains without getting property. Father Himself comes and makes everyone Pure. Takes into Nirvaanadham.
( I think that both points are related to each other.)
3. PBK's are frightened and frighteneing BK's, BK's are frightened and frightening the people of this world. How and Why?
PBK's are frightened that if they do not believe in Dixitji, then they will loose in the race of getting a good seat in Heaven. And BK's are frightened that if they even think of someone other than Dada Lekharaj as their head then they too will loose good seat in heaven. Please note that I am not talking about all PBK's and BK's, but most of them are of this type. This is just bulls**t. People are frightened when they do not have correct knowledge.
Within my limits, I can assure you all that we have nothing to fear, and there is no necessity of believing what someone says. Supreme Soul Shiv is our Godfather. He will not fool us by just giving hints. He knows that we are already fools. He has assured that whenever He comes He will introduce Himself. Any soul will get Pure and get Godfather's property only when the soul hears from Supreme Soul Shiv that He is The Godfather and only then comes the question of whether to believe or not what Godfather is saying. Godfather says and accepts that He is our Godfather and then comes our turn to believe or not to believe what Supreme Soul Shiv says. We are then tested. The sooner a soul understands more will the soul be benefitted. That's it.
So dear souls, give more and more attention to become soul-conscious and enjoy this Brahmin life with the rememberance of the sweetest soul ShivBaba.
Your
Anamik.
Please discuss this message with your elders (in knowledge) and share your views. I am very happy to join this forum. Awaiting your replies.