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How does BKs affect marriage? Do I've separate from my wife?

PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012
by ex-l
An interesting discussion from How does BKs affect marriage? Do I've separate from my wife?

An individual asked ...
Kushi wrote: If I join BKs do I have to separate from my wife and family ?
How does BKs affect marriage?

Someone answered ...
well-well wrote:Reality is that I personally know many couples who have been asked to split by senior members of BK. In some cases both husband and wife were BKs and in other cases only one of them was.

In one case the non-BK spouse was very cooperative with the BK spouse, including celibacy, and also cooperative with BK organisation. Nevertheless the senior BK members recommended that the BK spouse should split from the non BK spouse, claiming that it was bad influence.

I am talking here of a stable and mature couple with adult children.

The BKWSU claim in their Global Functioning: Guidelines for Beginners
Relationships with our family

Baba never asks us to leave the family or withdraw from daily life. In fact His advice is to live within the family but to live like a lotus flower, unaffected by the impurities or negativities of our surroundings. Remember that Baba describes Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga as a family path and not the path of the sanyassi – going off to the jungles or caves to live a life of deprivation – which is a common misconception when souls embark on a serious spiritual journey.

Fulfilling responsibilities

If we are parents, we are expected to honor, love and continue to take full responsibility for the care of our children.

The Brahma Kumari center in charge that started legal action aimed at intimidating and shutting down this site left her infant to join the Brahma Kumaris, so did at least one other very high ranking senior. Without doing so, neither could have risen up the ranks. There are no high ranking Brahma Kumaris with children.

On another occasion, BK Seniors advised a pregnant new adherent to abort her child as it would be a distraction from "earning an inheritance" and saving herself.
BKWSU wrote:If we have aging parents ...
If we are students ...
If we are working ...

No mention of husbands, wives, partners ... sex then?
BKWSU wrote:What is the value of leading a celibate life?

Celibacy for me means to be free and independent and not to have any accounts with people, nature or myself. It means to be 100 per cent self sovereign.

Love is another dimension and not following celibacy kills love – we shouldn’t mix up procreation with recreation. Love is the energy we all need; it is the oxygen of the soul this is why we cannot neglect it. But love that nourishes the soul cannot be associated with sex.

This is why we need to discern and get rid of old habits.
BKWSU wrote:Attitude towards souls who do not have Baba’s knowledge

The attitude towards souls who do not have Baba’s knowledge should be one of peace, love, and wanting to bring benefit (as opposed to contempt or arrogance).

What the God of the Brahma Kumaris says ...
Shiva Baba wrote:This is an impure, devilish world.
At this time, people are very dirty and impure.
People used to get married for vice. Now, you have cancelled the marriage for vice ... you mustn’t perform sinful actions through your physical senses.
Impure souls cannot come to Me
Those who are in the Iron Age (non-BK) are impure residents of hell
... the devilish clan.

Re: How does BKs affect marriage? Do I've separate from my w

PostPosted: 13 Mar 2012
by ex-l
Lekhraj Kripalani arranged Gandharva Vivah for many BKs. Traditionally, "Gandharva Vivah" meant a 'love marriage', i.e. without the agreement of the families, but in reality they were false, inhouse BKs weddings between BK followers chosen in order to act as a cover, or fool families and society.

Unfortunately, too many of them left Gyan and so the concept of Gandharva Vivah was dropped.

The BKs are quick to use the ones that did survive as proof of the power of Yoga and an example, in particular of accountant and trustee Ramesh Shah to Usha Bhen, ... but in their typically selective manners, forgot all the rest.

BK Ramesh Shah says he came into contact with Brahma Kumaris Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya in 1952 and became fully associated in 1961. However, he also says he married in November 27, 1960. Contentiously for some, it was he that established the World Renewal Spiritual Trust on 16 January 1969 which was only presented to Lekhraj Kirpalani on 17th or 18th January 1969 after which he had a heart attack and died. The property of the religion went into his and his accomplices' control.