I appreciate that this discussion has moved on, but I would like to comment on clearernow's original points
clearernow said
This is a fair point: it is not all bad, and we should not expect perfection from the BKs any more than we expect it in our own behaviour. But we should also not accept being brainwashed, or preached to, or hoodwinked, by those who are demonstrably flawed themselves. And why should we keep quiet in the face of their hypocrisy? And, surely it is not possible to become "self-sovereign" or "master almighty authority" through obeying orders!
I agree, but they also are misleading at times, encouraging the pursuit of selfish ends: a "high status", a kingdom or empire, with a legion of worshippers, and untold material wealth. An angel would not seek status, name, fame, or wealth. This is revealing: these teachings can be helpful for dharna, but they are not immaculate! Accordingly they should be consumed only with careful discrimination, if at all.
Yes, the core is pure. My core is pure, a pure soul. Your core is pure, a pure soul. A mass murderer is pure at the core. A child rapist is pure at the core.
It is not nearly enough to be pure at the core.
clearernow said
I have taken tremendous benefit in all aspects of my life from them and have seen thousands getting benefitted - I have seen miracles happening through the power of spirituality and Yoga in life threatening situations. I have seen a lot of positivity and purity as well amidst some of the imperfections. If they were perfect, they would all be sitting in Subtle Region as per their own course!
This is a fair point: it is not all bad, and we should not expect perfection from the BKs any more than we expect it in our own behaviour. But we should also not accept being brainwashed, or preached to, or hoodwinked, by those who are demonstrably flawed themselves. And why should we keep quiet in the face of their hypocrisy? And, surely it is not possible to become "self-sovereign" or "master almighty authority" through obeying orders!
the Avyakt Murlis are subtle, sweet, deep yet simple, personal and contain an ocean of knowledge on all aspects of spirituality, with practical advise on how one can implement it in their practical life.
I agree, but they also are misleading at times, encouraging the pursuit of selfish ends: a "high status", a kingdom or empire, with a legion of worshippers, and untold material wealth. An angel would not seek status, name, fame, or wealth. This is revealing: these teachings can be helpful for dharna, but they are not immaculate! Accordingly they should be consumed only with careful discrimination, if at all.
Yes, the core is pure. My core is pure, a pure soul. Your core is pure, a pure soul. A mass murderer is pure at the core. A child rapist is pure at the core.
It is not nearly enough to be pure at the core.