ex-I wrote:Are you one of those BK types who would not care even if Destruction did not happen and Heaven start by 2036? Do you find it acceptable that your god keeps changing his tune or his predictions keep failing?
because.parmeshwar wrote:It doesn’t matter at all for them. Even after continuous messages about Destruction in daily Murlis, it is typical answers from the BKs ... "oh, Baba has never given a date for the Destruction". And Baba very cleverly put the ball in children’s court saying. "Baba can transform the world in a second ... but children are not yet ready ... he ask children to fix a date and get ready" ... it is vice versa game ... and both of them are flourishing.
The supreme teacher never tells that what is the criterion, when the children obtain the pass marks to be called as GOT READY ... still now he is saying, "no one is ready as yet except Mama and Baba. How he can prepare the final mala (garland)?".
Ha! Now, because.parmeshwar, you strike me as someone who *did* go to morning class regularly and who paid close attention to what was being said.
It's funny but this meme (idea which spreads like virus) "Baba has never given a date for Destruction" appears to have spread all over the BK world. It's a lie, or at least a half-truth which allows the BKs to lie with a clear conscience. It is true that he has never given a *specific* date, like 25 May 1976, but Baba has given plenty of years or events during which Destruction was meant to happen.
The lie depends on what one considers a "date". Most of the world consider a *specific year* to be a date. If you ask when did WWII happen, people say, 1939 to 1945. They do not know the days which it started and stopped.
Therefore, at the core of the BKWSU is a knowing and crafty manipulation of outsiders, which is not pure. And I would argue that those of us that were close to the inner circle and attended service meetings, looking back will remember how we were encouraged to deceive or sat and planned to deceive outsiders.
Now, if you go back and read the documents from the 1930s/40s that is the exact same accusations pointed at the Om Mandli ... so nothing has changed. I remember the parents of one early leading Western BK saying, "the only thing the BKs have taught our son is to lie", and I believe that is true. They know how crazy and extreme their teachings are so they have to find 10,000s ways of hiding them and appearing like something else.
Now it is worse of course, the leaders edit out the Murlis so that newcomers do not know what was in them. The newcomers are sincere and only repeat what they have heard ... the manipulated version of the BK god. Therefore, to a certain degree, they don't understand our point because the version of the BK god they get to know about is only a professionally polished "sweetness and light" which fits into other religions' views of "God".
It is expanding not because it is "pure" but because its core is malleable (mouldable) and deceptive. The leaders can make it whatever they need or want. Correct me if I am wrong.