Challenge me away ...
clearofBK wrote:So your stance is whatever doesn't work for you, or where you don't fit in, is a cult ...
The idea that the Wikipedia is a bit of a cult is not mine, e.g. try arguing the toss with 2 PhDs, an Ma and an HBA who wrote;
Wikipedia: A Techno-Cult of Ignorance,
The New York Times,
When is a cult not a cult? (specifically about cults on the Wikipedia), and many others, e.g.
The Cult Of Wikipedia,
Cult of Cthulhu Bible and Wikipedia: The Similarities; and the whole problem of cults editing the Wikipedia has also been well discussed, e.g.
CultEducation.com.
I have had a lot of experience on the Wikipedia, in a number of different areas, and am probably more aware of its problems than most people. And they are very real. Cults are highly productive, look at how financially successful the BKs or Scientology have been. Some even do good work. However, I would say that there definitely are are cult-like aspects of the Wikipedia repeating not what I think but what the experts say.
Sorry for being blunt but probably BKinfo is the only place you are not challenged enough and that's why you seem to be releasing your frustration of getting banned on Wikipedia many times here.
I've been challenged here, there's at least one or two specific threads about me, and from time to time someone comes forward to have a go. Basically no posts are removed from here. I am well beyond frustration about the BKs having me banned time and time again, it's more just a combination of an ethical issue for me.
My edits are accurate. You'd be very hard pressed to find any that were not.
My contempt for the BKs over this matter is something different. My contempt for the manner in which the BKs have behaved and continue to behave and organise on the Wikipedia is a different matter. I have absolute contempt for them because of what they are doing and how they are doing it.
For you information, the first time an IP address of mine got block it happened because, in order,
a) as now, a group of BKs were editing warring to try and turn the BKWSU page into an advert for their cult.
b) I attempted to get them to accept mediation, which they refused and so lastly,
c) I took the matter to arbitration to try and hold them to having to have a discussion (they still did not)
My IP address ended up becoming block because I highlighted on one of the BK editor's talk page that he was breaking federal law using a work computer at a university to do his Wiki-warring. That, apparently, is a big crime on the Wikipedia, but ridiculous from my point of view, so I carry on editing to stop the BKs utterly whitewashing the article.
For years afters this ridiculous game has gone on where they will team up, report, database every edit etc and attempt to ban *EVERY* unacceptable editor, including quite a few I *KNOW* are not me for a fact.
My contempt for some of the Wikipedia admins is that they go along with and do so, giving the BKs a carte blanche to do what they want. All the BKs do is run around sucking up, snitching, complaining and reporting - and avoiding any difficult question - getting all and anyone blocked who dares to edit their drivel banned.
Do you not think that is worthy of a little contempt? It cracks me up they revert time and time again to a version which is factually incorrect ... they have a real bee in their bonnet about Lekhraj Kirpalani being born in 1876 ... which he was not. It is that petty and deluded.
Many of the Wikipedia admins are just kids playing "whack-a-mole". They don't think or question what they are doing. You cannot engage with them. They will outrightly lie and make up decision. If you point out something obvious, or a mistake, they will ignore it. Partly this is what the BKs are depending on or exploiting. Most people really could care less whether the BK topic exists, never mind whether it is accurate not. They just want a quiet life.
As I say, the BKs - or rather the BK marrying Simon Blandford - has have invested a huge amount of time and energy into and he has made it very clear to me that it is a personal issue. He has said it directly to me. He does not want me editing the Wikipedia.
With Danh108, you know there are rule on the Wikipedia, like you are not supposed to out other uses and are supposed to be banned if you do. So what does he do. He started outing me personally to have a dig or "needle" me. Now, that sort of behaviour I am surprised at angelic BKs really should be above digging and needling - but, again, it seems that we are not dealing with real BK here. Just half-BK.
So, the working theory I have about it all is that with the demise of BKism into demi-BKs around the edges, or a lay caste if you like, within that we are seeing the development of a kind of thug element which does the BKs' dirty work, whether it is beating up PBKs in real life, or beating me out on the Wikipedia.
With the BK Wikipedia Master Simon, there is another issue. Beyond the Marriage of Convenience to a BK Sister, he was directly involved in the legal action against this website ... even though he knew it was for personal reasons nothing to do with the BKWSU.
Therefore, it raises a number of quite serious ethical issues.
BTW, I am for all BK being allowed to marry. And I am for all Indian or Mauritian BK Sisters to find a Western BK to marry them so they can come to the West and live. But I believe ALL BKs EQUALLY should be told about this option and encourage to take it if they want ... NOT just for it to be for the privileged few.
It is the inequality and privilege issue I am against. Let's see it on the bottom of the Murli noticeboard
From today, any BK Sister can marry any BK Brother, or even Homosexual BKs enter into civil partnerships as the law of their country allows.
And let's see those BKs who have secretly married campaign for the rights of other BKs to do so.
If the BKs agree to that, my criticism and contempt would disappear immediate.