Revelation of GOD through the Holy-Trinity

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Re: Revelation of GOD through' Holy-Trinity.

Post27 May 2014

Mine was a genuine question. What is this stuff people are calling "spirituality"?

There have been a number of article recently about the growing phenomenon of people claiming to be "Spiritual but not religious", including this one ... Spiritual, but not religious? A dangerous mix.
People who are "spiritual but not religious" are more likely to suffer poor mental health, according to a study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry. Michael King of University College London and his colleagues examined 7,400 interviews with folk in Britain, of whom 35% had a religious understanding of life, 19% a spiritual one and 46% neither a religious nor spiritual outlook. The analysis led to one clear conclusion. "People who have a spiritual understanding of life in the absence of a religious framework are vulnerable to mental disorder [dependence on drugs, abnormal eating attitudes, anxiety etc].

It's now got an an acronym of its own ... SBNR.

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Post29 May 2014

Murli: 27-11-04 says: “Vande-matram gaya jaata hai…saath mei vande-pitram toh hai hi “. [ “It is sung glory to the Mother…glory to the Father goes along with it.”]

The above Murli point clearly indicates that Father Shiva is slways combined with Mother(Holy Spirit)....this co-relates well with bhakti-scriptures which also says Shiva and shakti are always combined and it co-relates well with bhakti-picture of shivling (where Father-ling and mother-yoni are combined.)....By seperating Father Shiva from Mother adi-shakti, BKWSU is preaching Nivritti-marg ka Gyan.


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Post29 May 2014

Shivsena,

Don’t get caught up in culturally specific symbols, stories and ways of thinking.

Rather, take a step backstage and see what is going on behind all cultural ”performances” or expressions, symbols, myths & metaphors.

There is a vast difference between these approaches.
On one level it's arguing whether Indian cinema is better than Chinese cinema is better than Hollywood.
On another level, by understanding the craft of cinema, you can be appreciative of all good cinema and still know its all a fabrication.
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Post29 May 2014

Go tell it to the BKs Shivsena.

We're here to help people get BKism out of their lives and minds. Even re-interpretations of BKism.

If you are ready to accept that you were trapped by the BKs and had your mind re-shapped by them, and even know you cannot escape their thought patterns ... then perhaps we can help you move on.

But as long as you insist on believing something in it all is true ... we cannot help you.

I suggest you just stop thinking about BKism, and even spirituality as a whole. Focus on the practical things in life instead, do some practical good, make positive practical changes to the real world and forget the theoretical stuff.

There is no reward in heaven for thinking about things. Do good things. Protect and uplift others in a practical way.

Forget gods.

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Post30 May 2014

Thanks for your advice....Brother ex-l and pink panther.

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Post02 Jun 2014

To all Brothers.

Sharing what i read on the internet about the Divine Mother.
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"The future will see the re-emergence of reverence for the Divine Mother that we knew in past ages."

The Divine Mother, called the Universal Mother or Cosmic Virgin, is the feminine polarity of the Godhead. She is the "other side" of Father. In Jewish tradition, the feminine aspect of God is called Shekhinah, literally "Divine Presence." In Hinduism she appears as Shakti, in Buddhism as Prajnaparamita, and in Egyptian tradition as Isis. In some texts of the Old Testament , the feminine aspect of the divine is called Wisdom, just as the Christian gnostics called her Sophia. In the East she is known as Kuan Yin, the Chinese Goddess of Mercy and Compassion and in the West as Mary, Mother of Jesus. Being multi-faceted, the Divine Mother has a thousand and one faces and her reflection is constantly changing.

The sacred interchange of energy that is God flows from Spirit to Matter, Matter to Spirit. Matter (the material cosmos) symbolically represents the womb of the Mother. The Mother anchors the energies released from Spirit (Father) into Matter (Mother). She brings the formlessness of Spirit (Father) into form. The Divine feminine is the highest expression or aspect of man and woman and we need both Mother and Father for wholeness and balance.

The myriad faces of the Mother explain her being. She can assume any form ranging from the gentle comforter to the fearless warrior. She can be tender and playful(Maa jagdamba) or terrifying and ferocious(mahakali). The Goddess reveals herself as Woman Warrior(Durga), Teacher(Saraswati), Mother and Consort. In different moods, she appears youthful, ancient, or ageless. She is divine creativity, evolutionary energy, timeless awareness, transcendent reality, and, in a special tantric sense, she is every woman. She constitutes the feminine principle within male and female persons and also manifests self-luminous Mother Wisdom, nondual awareness and bliss.

Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Inscrutable power in all things.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Intelligence in all beings.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Forgiveness in all things.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Peacefulness in all things.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Faithfulness in all things.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Beauty in all things.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Mercy in all things.
Praise be to the Divine Mother
The Consciousness in all things.
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Post02 Jun 2014

"The future will see the re-emergence of reverence for the Divine Mother that we knew in past ages.

What does this mean? That no-one today has reverence for ”the divine mother”?
That in future everyone will have reverence for the "divine mother”?

Anyway, is this ”divine mother” a principle, or a being i.e. a conscious entity independent of the minds of mankind?
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Post02 Jun 2014

Pink Panther wrote:Anyway, is this ”divine mother” a principle, or a being i.e. a conscious entity independent of the minds of mankind?

Seems to be another case of a BK-type borrowing marketing from some other religion.

It's a hymn, from the Devi Mahatmyam (Sanskrit: devīmāhātmyam, देवीमाहात्म्यम्), or "Glory of the Goddess"), a Hindu religious text describing the victory of the goddess Durga over the demon Mahishasura.

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Post04 Jun 2014

Pink Panther wrote:
What does this mean? That no-one today has reverence for ”the divine mother”?
That in future everyone will have reverence for the "divine mother”?

The Divine mother is known to mankind only in Confluence Age at the end of Kaliyug. For last 2500 years worship of Divine mother is without knowing her....only when the Divine mother gives divine knowledge(wisdom) at the end of Kaliyug, that we can recognise her and remember her, in her true form.
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Post04 Jun 2014

""The future will see the re-emergence of reverence for the Divine Mother "
"The Divine mother is known to mankind only in Confluence Age at the end of Kaliyug.....only when the Divine mother gives divine knowledge(wisdom) at the end of Kaliyug, that we can recognise her and remember her, in her true form.

Isn’t it supposed to be Confluence Age now?
The she should be known now.

The future is supposed to be Sat yuga, and she is not ”known" then.

By your logic, is the Confluence Age some future time and is only the short period after ”divine mother” has given ”divine knowledge” and she is recognised by all as you say?

What a blast that will be! The crown of creation! (feed your head shivsena)
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Post06 Jun 2014

Pink Panther wrote:
Isn’t it supposed to be Confluence Age now?
The she should be known now.

The future is supposed to be Sat yuga, and she is not ”known" then.

By your logic, is the Confluence Age some future time and is only the short period after ”divine mother” has given ”divine knowledge” and she is recognised by all as you say?


Dear Brother Pink Panther.

Sangamyug(Confluence Age) and purushottam Sangamyug(auspicious Confluence Age ) are different. ...…When Godly knowledge started at the end of Kaliyug in 1937, it was the beginning of Sangamyug and the whole of Sangamyug till today is for understanding-imbibing Gyan and inculcating divine qualities….when the end of Sangamyug is reached in near future, then purushottam Sangamyug will start and Revelation of Divine Mother (Holy Spirit) will begin and numberwise souls(9,16,108) in Godly kingdom will also be revealed…but before the revelation occurs there will be revolution.(confusion-chaos- war of beliefs of bks-pbks and ex.)

In short: Sangamyug is effort-making period and purushottam Sangamyug is Revelation period.
All rememberences of Divine Mother(Holy Spirit) are of Auspicious Confluence Age
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Post09 Jun 2014

Sharing some quotes from bhakti-scriptures about Shiva and shakti combined.

1. Because of God, the Goddess exists,
And, without her, He is not.
They exist only because of each other.

2. These two are the only ones
Who dwell in this home called the universe.
When the Master of the house sleeps,
The Mistress stays awake, and performs the functions of both.

3. It is Shiva-shakti alone who lives in all forms;
He is both the male and the female.
It is because of the union of these two
That the whole universe exists.

4. Two flutes: one note. Two flowers: one fragrance.
Two lamps: one light. Two lips: one word. Two eyes: one sight.
These two: one universe.

5. Since He appears because of Her,
And she exists because of her Lord,
The two cannot be distinguished at all.

6. Sugar and its sweetness Cannot be told apart,
Nor can camphor and its fragrance.
If we have the flames, We also have the fire.
If we catch hold of Shakti, We have Shiva as well.

7. The Sun appears to shine because of its rays,
But the rays themselves are produced by the Sun.
In fact, that glorious Sun and its shining are the same.

8. To have a reflection, one must have an object.
If we see a reflection, then we infer that an object exists.
Likewise, the supreme Reality which is one, appears to be two.

9. Because of Her form, God is seen in the world.
Yet it was He Who created Her form of Himself.
She is His form, But Her beauty comes from Him.
By their intermingling, They are together enjoying this feast.

10. Shiva and Shakti are the same,
Like air and its motion, Or gold and its luster.
Fragrance cannot be separated from the musk,
Nor heat from fire; Neither can Shakti be separated from Shiva.
Thought manifesting duality, These two—the eternal couple—Are essentially the same.


All the above rememberences of Shiva and shakti combined are because God was revealed in the combined-form in the forth-coming Auspicious-Confluence-Age.
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Post09 Jun 2014

I cannot cope with any more "Coming soon ..." blockbuster type hyping.

Please let us know when the true Shiv or Shakti arrives. No more advance advertising, please.

Clearly what the original authors of that inspiring, romantic poetry conceived off is different from what you are thinking of.

They most certainly are relevant to the Brahma Kumaris but I imagine their response will be one of ignorance ... and once you persist past the point of their tolerance ... abuse. Their leaders like things the way they are with everyone kept dumbed down below them.

What response did you get from the BKs? Sadly, I think they not generally that well educated enough about any, never mind religion, to appreciate what you are saying.

And they don't want to be told that they and their leaders are going to end up servants since they have invested so much supporting them. If their leaders are to be servants ... then that means they will be, at best, the servants of servants.

We were talking about the Land of the Dead just a while ago ... that made me think that the BK conception of "body burners/cremators" must have a different metaphorical (or alokik) meaning too, and not the literal one the BKs gives.

Perhaps the cremators in the BK system are actually those BKs who "burn" away all trace/reputation of those BKs who left, often for good reasons.

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Post10 Jun 2014

Can anybody tell us the EXACT dates of end of BK's kalyug & their coming soon Satyug? [ Give exact dates, don't reply if you are not sure about it, do ask your center co-ordinators or Dadis & then let us know about it.]

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Post13 Jun 2014

ex-l wrote:I cannot cope with any more "Coming soon ..." blockbuster type hyping.

Please let us know when the true Shiv or Shakti arrives. No more advance advertising, please.

Clearly what the original authors of that inspiring, romantic poetry conceived off is different from what you are thinking of.

Dear ex-l.

I can only predict about the sequence of events which are going to take place in this future Sangamyugi drama (as per the study of murlis-vanis)....i cannot predict an exact date about when Adi-shakti Maa will be revealed.....i can only make an educated guess that once Mateshwari-mamma completes her 50 years of becoming avaykt karmatit Farishta in 2015 june, after that things will start moving very fast and if BapDada does not come in 2015-16, then there will be fighting between the bks-pbks(Mahabharat war) and simultaneously revelation will start.
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