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The BKs would think any non-BK carrying out normal sexual and emotional activities with other human beings is acting like a prostitute. The god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris has also referred to Hindu temples as "Brothels" and slaughter house for carrying out marriages. You can see many such quotes, here.
On the other hand, interestingly enough though, their leading guru Lekhraj Kirpalani once had a ceremony were married his own spiritual daughter Om Radhe ... we presume with his real wife either in the audience or in the know about it ... and, in the cult's early days, consorted with the young girls bathing with them in the same tank semi-naked, lying about in bed and sleeping together, massaging them ... and it is hint much more ... as he played out his god Krishna fantasy.
This was long before they introduced a God Shiva into their cult and only had a God Brahma ... him, Lekhraj Kirpalani. Prajapati God Brahma, Krishna, Narayan and Vishnu incarnate, as he claimed.
Lekhraj Kirpalani is referred to in the court documents as "not being a moral man". It would seem he knows quite a lot about and is fixated on brothels.
How his real wife felt is not recorded.
The Brahma Kumaris scriptures also refer to this entire world as a "Brothel".
Prostitution, the sex trafficking of young impoverished girls, and caste bound slavery trapping children in the cycles of sexual enslavement and abuse are huge problems in India. Although I do remember Lekhraj Kirpalani encouraging the BKs to go and "serve them", i.e. encult them in BKism, I have never read of BKs becoming involved in any serious campaign to uplift this element of humanity ... most of which, it must be said, are victims not "sinners" and are forced by poverty to live terrible lives and die early ... nor any great degree of success in this area.
It is an aspect of Indian society were there are huge hypocrisies, e.g. ashrams prostituting off young widows to pay their bills, the rich, powerful and even caste Brahmins indulging in commercial sexual activity whilst their wives are kept silent etc.
But when we read Brahma Kumari scriptures, we have to remember that their mention can be taken in two ways. BKs tend to believe such comments are about the outside world. PBKs tend to assume that such references are metaphorical or allegorical and refer to the Brahma Kumaris themselves acting as 'spiritual prostitutes' e.g. as in prostituting their assets (feminity ... young Kumaris?) to their "clients" ... from who they then extract money and living off it.
Perhaps someone else can correct and develop that theme ... but I think it seem a more likely inference ... that is to say, the "world that has become a brothel" is the BK world itself ... not the outside world.
That would seem accurate enough although the BKs' ego and vanity would struggle to accept it.
I would presume that the BKs' tendency to unenlightened caste-style prejudices would lead to any such individuals being stigmatised and diminish within their community, and relegated them to the lowest activities, e.g. forbidden to cook food and their food not eaten by "pure" superiors, but I know of no such case at all, nor the publication of them.
I agree with you, if the BKs' "feminism" went as far as to liberate and uplift this lowest element of Indian society, I think it would be a very good thing.
In the meanwhile, I think their prostitution of other people's religions, beliefs and ideas for money from their clients at their spiritual brothels is appalling, and ... if we are to extend that metaphorical understanding of the BKs' scripture further ... that makes it's leaders, particularly the influential male Seniors, spiritual pimp masters trafficking young girls around for profit.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Chandaneeben wrote:'all prostitutes come to Baba and cry''.
Save Innocents wrote:Was she referring all female followers as prostitute?
The BKs would think any non-BK carrying out normal sexual and emotional activities with other human beings is acting like a prostitute. The god spirit of the Brahma Kumaris has also referred to Hindu temples as "Brothels" and slaughter house for carrying out marriages. You can see many such quotes, here.
The god of the Brahma Kumaris spoke not wrote:The number one corruption is to make one another impure. This is a brothel. Iron-Aged India is called a brothel. Everyone is born through vice ... It is now the unlimited brothel. It is completely Tamopradhan ... Those deities are pure. They descend from Shivalaya and come into the brothel ... Shiva created deities and then their temples were created. That is the living Shivalaya and then this becomes the brothel ... If [Sanyasis] did not become pure, Bharat would have become too much of a brothel ... and so on.
On the other hand, interestingly enough though, their leading guru Lekhraj Kirpalani once had a ceremony were married his own spiritual daughter Om Radhe ... we presume with his real wife either in the audience or in the know about it ... and, in the cult's early days, consorted with the young girls bathing with them in the same tank semi-naked, lying about in bed and sleeping together, massaging them ... and it is hint much more ... as he played out his god Krishna fantasy.
This was long before they introduced a God Shiva into their cult and only had a God Brahma ... him, Lekhraj Kirpalani. Prajapati God Brahma, Krishna, Narayan and Vishnu incarnate, as he claimed.
Lekhraj Kirpalani is referred to in the court documents as "not being a moral man". It would seem he knows quite a lot about and is fixated on brothels.
How his real wife felt is not recorded.
The Brahma Kumaris scriptures also refer to this entire world as a "Brothel".
Prostitution, the sex trafficking of young impoverished girls, and caste bound slavery trapping children in the cycles of sexual enslavement and abuse are huge problems in India. Although I do remember Lekhraj Kirpalani encouraging the BKs to go and "serve them", i.e. encult them in BKism, I have never read of BKs becoming involved in any serious campaign to uplift this element of humanity ... most of which, it must be said, are victims not "sinners" and are forced by poverty to live terrible lives and die early ... nor any great degree of success in this area.
It is an aspect of Indian society were there are huge hypocrisies, e.g. ashrams prostituting off young widows to pay their bills, the rich, powerful and even caste Brahmins indulging in commercial sexual activity whilst their wives are kept silent etc.
But when we read Brahma Kumari scriptures, we have to remember that their mention can be taken in two ways. BKs tend to believe such comments are about the outside world. PBKs tend to assume that such references are metaphorical or allegorical and refer to the Brahma Kumaris themselves acting as 'spiritual prostitutes' e.g. as in prostituting their assets (feminity ... young Kumaris?) to their "clients" ... from who they then extract money and living off it.
Perhaps someone else can correct and develop that theme ... but I think it seem a more likely inference ... that is to say, the "world that has become a brothel" is the BK world itself ... not the outside world.
That would seem accurate enough although the BKs' ego and vanity would struggle to accept it.
I would presume that the BKs' tendency to unenlightened caste-style prejudices would lead to any such individuals being stigmatised and diminish within their community, and relegated them to the lowest activities, e.g. forbidden to cook food and their food not eaten by "pure" superiors, but I know of no such case at all, nor the publication of them.
I agree with you, if the BKs' "feminism" went as far as to liberate and uplift this lowest element of Indian society, I think it would be a very good thing.
In the meanwhile, I think their prostitution of other people's religions, beliefs and ideas for money from their clients at their spiritual brothels is appalling, and ... if we are to extend that metaphorical understanding of the BKs' scripture further ... that makes it's leaders, particularly the influential male Seniors, spiritual pimp masters trafficking young girls around for profit.
Correct me if I am wrong.