Posted: 01 Apr 2007
John wrote:Where is this from, is it a Mama class?
... and the next questions are; by whom, and when, was it revised or re-written?
Independent thought about the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University for those wishing to leave, and friends and family of followers
http://www.brahmakumaris.info/forum/
http://www.brahmakumaris.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=547
John wrote:Where is this from, is it a Mama class?
ex-l wrote:... and the next questions are; by whom, and when, was it revised or re-written?
Abrahma Kumar wrote:Edited in the U.K.
ex-l wrote:I am still looking for evidence of the miraculous change in The Knowledge and don't trust the organization's re-writers. 1958 is getting closer. I doubt 98% of London do not know about all this early stuff and just eat whatever Abu feeds them.
For those that are interested in discussing this, I uploaded a copy of the 1943 book This Preordained World-Wide War of Mahabharata and its Result by Om Radhe Karachi 1943. Seems to have been printed in gold leaf. Notable is the lack of any mention of Shiva, even by 1943. Usual Prajapati God Brahma references. Interesting references to how the "Divine Fathers" of different religions become sponanteously self-realised. That is to say, no mention of second souls popping into their heads as now taught.
As an aside, when Mama Om Radhey could describe or introduce herself as a PBK, I do not see any reason why the present day Dadis or senior BKs (who are supposed to be the true followers of Mama) cannot prefix PBK to their names. This would be the first step towards the unification of BKs and PBKs.
Om Radhe wrote:Each of us here is taught how he or she is God and how one creates in a moment and dissolves in the next and how thinking of dualities gives pain to others and receives same in return, and thus involves karma and goes to the prison of the womb.
Each of us gives in writing personal experience and state of spiritual attainments to the Mandli which are available for perusal.
Any one ataining this Anand and Shanti cannot hurt any one else knowing and seeing his own self in all. There have not been any complaints from members.
ex-l wrote:From Om Radhe's book, "Is this Justice" 1939, a list of the original members of the Om Mandli.[/b]
joel wrote:Interesting. I remember seeing Brahma Baba's son Narain (whose name appears on this list) in a meeting with BapDada one time. BapDada was asking him if he was ready to devote more of his time to things spiritual. His answer: at the moment I am very busy.
jannisder wrote:This is making me sick!!!
abrahma Kumar wrote:16th December 1958.