Posted: 05 Apr 2007
Also note that it is "Prajapati" not "prajapita".
Independent thought about the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University for those wishing to leave, and friends and family of followers
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John wrote:The evidence is overwhelming, I for one would like an explaination from the BKSWU.
arjun wrote:I don't think you would get any reply. Even if they opt to give a reply, they may say that Baba has said in the Murlis that the pictures are subject to revision and correction. So, one should not feel surprised about it.
Sister Bansy wrote:With all this stuff, ex-l, you could put it all onto ebay and pocket a few million (hopefully not rupees but dollars). We'll never see it again until the next cycle of course !
ex-l wrote:He does not actually, Arjun. That Murli point was written about original "visions" and corrections that were made at the time of the original composition before it went out. It does not refer, nor give carte blanche, to make revisions for all times afterwards. John still has a point that why have 14 to 18 years of complete and utter contradiction been covered up? Newcomers have been duped into give their lives up, academics have been lied to, there has been one big cover up by the Seniors to protect their status. I, personally, have been lied to by the top Senior Sisters about this.
Divine Father Prajapati God Brahma, Corporeal Re-Incarnation of Incorporeal God Vishnu (Chaturbhuj) is the SEED.
World Almighty Authority, Prajapati God Brahma ... has re-incarnated in ordinary human form along with His 108 most beloved self-conquering luckiest Divine Ones ...in Bharat on the banks of Sindhu Saraswati RIver in the year 1939 AD, and has organised the most supreme Rajsuva Asvamedh Avinashi Gyan Yagya which lasts for 12 years through Divine power of Supreme "Aham Brahm Asmi" Faith.
ex-l wrote:This is a low resolution version of another single color version I have put up in the downloads. Same image, worth it for the typed message. More Prajapati God Brahma, real identity as Lord Sree Krishna, Supreme Guide of would-be Deities, the Master of Brahm, Brahmand & Brahmpuri.
ex-l wrote:The figure of 1937 plus 12 takes up to 1949 on a par with the other poster dated 1949 that claimed Destruction was "within a year". So they clearly had instructions about this, but where did the 12 year figure come in? Early Murlis that have also been destroyed?
There is a revised Sakar Murli point published by the BKs which says that these pictures should be insured, lest they are put on fire or vandalized by opponents. I will try to quote the point.
Yudhishtira wrote:Didnt you guys know that the original picture that Dada Vishwa Rattan did with Brahma Baba actually has photos of the people that a trance messenger at the time said where going to be the 8? I do not have the book with me here but will dig it out tomorrow. definatly there was Dadi Prakashmani, Didi Manmohini, Dada Vishwa Rattan, Dada Vishwa Kishore; but I cant remember who the others were. and definatly no Dadi Janki.
Yudhishtira wrote:I don't have the book with me here but will dig it out tomorrow. definitely there was Dadi Prakashmani, Didi Manmohini, Dada Vishwa Rattan, Dada Vishwa Kishore; but I cant remember who the others were. and defiantly no Dadi Janki. I wonder if anyone has ever asked Jayanti about that; she's always going on about Dadi being one of the 8.
yudhishtira wrote:I think she has really big insecurity about not being part of the original gathering, hence you hear about her reading the Murli 20 times to try and catch up. Unfortunatly her insecurity and associated fears etc have continued into the rest of the Western Yagya systems.
OM Radhe wrote:Committee
1 Radhi Pokardas Rajwani, 22, unmarried, Haroo Sadhwani Paro
2 Palu Motiram Dhanrajmal, 22, married, Hirabad, Hyderabad
3 Parpati Nanikram Wasvani, 21, unmarried, Hotchand Vishindas Lachman Beragi St
4 Roopvanti Hassaram Balani, 24, married, Haroo Sadhwani Paro
5 Sundri Karamchand Mahtani, 17, unmarried, Old Hospital
6 Gudi Kewalram Mahitani, 28, married, Pishori Paro
7 Rama Gopal Hathiramani, 18, male, Old Hospital
8 Radhika Kishinchand Kirpalani, 26, married, Om Nivas
9 Motil Ratanchand Surtani, 18, unmarried, Bachal Shah Incline
Co-opted
10 Lila Rijhumal Sukhrani, 15, unmarried, Om Nivas
11 Mithi Naraindas Daswani, 18, unmarried, Om Nivas
12 Lachmi Parmanand Daswni, 17, married, Om Nivas
13 Rukmani P. Hathiramani, 36, married, Mathradas Sobhraj Bdg
14 Gopi Hashmatrai Hathiramani, Women's Hospital
15 Sati Bhojraj Wadhwani, 18, married, Wadhwani Lane
16 Lachhmi Sobhraj Chulani, 40, married, Bachal Shah Jo Pir
17 Sati Rijhumal Sakhrani, 45, married, Om Nivas
18 Jasoda Lekhraj Kripalani, 45, married, Om Nivas
Janki Khubchand Dasvani, 37
Janki Parmanand Mahtani, 15
Janki Metharam Kripalani, 13
Janki Chellaram Mahtani, 10
Companion of God wrote:As a founding member of the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University, joining in 1937 at the age of 21, she became one of India's first female spiritual leaders. With an unrelenting search for honesty and cleanliness in her relationship with God ...
BKThai.com - The Courage of Conscience Award 2005 wrote:Dadi Janki was one of the original 16 women Lekhraj assembled in 1937 to found the organization and forge its rapidly expanding vision of the future. Brahma Baba, as the founder came to be known, recognized that women hold inherent power as the creators and protectors of life, a revolutionary concept in India, or anywhere for that matter. He soon vested control of his entire fortune and all administrative responsibility for the organization to those original 16 female students.
BWKSU wrote:Over the past 57 years, Dadi Janki has dedicated her life to the service of humanity. She began her spiritual apprenticeship in 1937 at the age of 21 and was one of the founding members of the BKWSU.
WIE wrote:Dadi Janki joined the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University in 1937 at the age of 21, and soon became one of India's first female spiritual leaders.
Janki Foundation wrote:Serving for 14 years as the appointed nurse to a 300-strong spiritual community, from 1937-1951, she observed the impact of mental, emotional and spiritual factors on recovering from illness.
Victoria Mary Clarke wrote:'Dadi' means elder Sister and is a term that is used to describe all of the female leaders of the BKs, who joined the organisation as young girls in 1936.
ex-l wrote:I'd also like to point out that [Janki] herself is responsible for instituting a system that declines others the oppportunity to study the Murli and, indeed, has been responsible for very senior BK leaving the BKWSU due to the manner in which the Murlis are taught.