john wrote:Since the Father is incorporeal, He would surely have to come here in order to introduce Himself and give you your inheritance ... It also explains how he would have to come from another place to introduce himself.
Brother John, please tell me from where the Father comes here to introduce Himself & to give us our inheritance? From Paramdham - outside the boundaries of that unlimited stage where the huge World Drama takes place? The World Drama, as a whole, is analoguous to a closed system in thermo-dynamics, which operates on the principle of 'Self Interacting Dynamics', i.e, a perfect & ideal closed system do not exchange energy with its surroundings. All activities of the content elements of that perfectly closed system get activated by the internal forces of the system, without interacting with the surrounding. Though no any thermodynamic system could be considered as such an ideal closed system, but the World Drama, as a whole, is the only one example of such an ideal closed system which do not exchange anything with its surrounding, i.e, all and all activities within the World Drama (including downfall & upliftment of souls) get activated by the internal forces of the World Drama without interacting with alien outside agent, Shiv, who comes from the surrounding (Paramdham) of the World Drama. Your statement doesn't quite make sense because you say
all and all activities within the World Drama (including downfall & upliftment of souls) get activated by the internal forces of the World Drama without interacting with alien outside agent, Shiv, who comes from the surrounding (Paramdham) of the World Drama
Are not souls also initially outside agents of the world drama? Do souls also come from Paramdham or not? What are the internal forces of the world drama that cause upliftment?
without interacting with alien outside agent, Shiv
Shiv has introduced Himself as He is, Who He is, What He is. He gives His own introduction upon the world drama stage, how can Shiv be an outside alien agent when He plays a part according to drama? Where does the soul end and matter begin? Where does matter end and the soul begin? How do they interact? You cannot as yet describe the world drama as
as a whole, is the only one example of such an ideal closed system which do not exchange anything with its surrounding
ShivBaba brings the incorporeal stage upon the world drama, and teaches how to attain that stage. Whilst the soul is playing a part upon the stage one degraded soul
Ram/Prajapita/Virendra Dev Dixit attains that incorporeal stage through practice and the influence of ShivBaba, and demonstrates what may be achieved through the subtle concentration power of the soul ie, the transformation of the entire world and all souls take place through One.
Other souls become this numberwise according to effort and capacity. The inclusion of ShivBaba upon the world drama stage has to be seen as inclusive in the system and this is what makes it perfect.
And eternal.