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Post08 Apr 2008

suryavanshi wrote: "Gyan Marg kaa guru mein ek hi hoon. Gyan jab mere sein soone tab oonko Gyani kah saktein hain. Baaki sab hain Bhakti. Mu. 12/3/1999.

Yes- Gyan marg ka guru is only one Ramshivbaba(not bindishivbaba) and only when you hear Gyan from him (in 100% nirakari stage in future) then those 108 souls, who hear from Him will be true Gyani souls(not 16000); the rest everybody who is listening to cds of Krishna during the shooting period of Brahma ki raat will be considered Bhakti. It is said in Murlis that :" Gyan se hoti hai sadgati and Bhakti se hoti hai durgati"); if there was true Gyan in Advance Party, then all those who are listening to knowledge from God should have been in sadgati, but not a single soul can say that after 20 years of Advanced Knowledge he has achieved any sadgati.
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Post08 Apr 2008

suryavanshi wrote:"Oonch te oocnch bhagwaan Shiv phir Brahma, Vishnu aur Shankar. Een dwaara baap kaarya karwaatein hain. Karankaraawanhaar hain na." mu dated 31/8/1998

Dear Suryawanshi Brother:

The karawanhar part through Brahma - is that what Shivsena Bhai is talking about? Namely the Brahma ki raat shooting going on !! I am seeing a convergence or you have different views.

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Post09 Apr 2008

pbktrinityshiva wrote: Shivsena, Whilst we are waiting for Ram to become 100% nirakari from whom should we obtain Shrimat? Will you guide us? If not then whom? Ourselves or another Chariot?

Dear trinityshiva Bhai,

It is extremely shocking that you use a powerful anonymous name as 'trinityshiva' but you are begging for guidance from shivsena Bhai. Suprising, you call yourself as 'trinity Shiva' but actually you are a weak soul. Only weak souls request guidance from other impure bodily beings after recognizing ShivBaba. Even the physically blind do not beg for anything and they stand on their own feet but you are intellectually blind. Do a favour to the PBK community, i.e. please discontinue the anonymous name as 'trinity Shiva'. Also do not prefix the letters "PBK" to your anonymous name, instead prefix 'XX' to your new anonymous name. As 'XX' denotes xxxx xxxxxxxxx (i.e. shivsena Bhai's lokik name). Since your blind intellect is begging for shivsena Bhai's guidance, it will be only appropriate to prefix the letters 'XX' to your new anonymous name.

I have read a Murli quote which says that "those who have not recognized the Father are regarded as fools." I feel that you are a bigger fool than those fools out there, since you have recognized ShivBaba, but begging guidance from an impure bodily being who desires only to come into the second class rosary of 108.
arjun wrote:You repeatedly say that how can PBKs distinguish between the three souls present in the body of Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit? But the same question applies to your method of remembrance also? How do/will you know which soul is the soul of Ram and which soul is the soul of Krishna within the same body? And when the soul of Ram has become equal to Shiv, where will be the necessity for the soul of Krishna to remain in his body? Entry of another human soul/ghost in someone itself means that some karmic accounts are still remaining. So, if you believe that the soul of Krishna would remain the owner of Ram's body even after he has become equal to Shiv, then it means that the soul of Ram would not have cleared his karmic accounts with the soul of Krishna. Then how can remembering such a form (which has not liberated itself of the control of another soul) cause mukti and jeevanmukti to others?

Dear arjun Bhai,

I completely agree with your views. For the coining of Shivshankar to take place, Krishna's soul has to leave the body of Rambap permanently. Only the soul of Ram will attain the 100% nirakari stage equal to ShivBaba to which both fathers will transform Brahma's night to Brahma's day. When Krishna's soul has attained perfection, then he will enter into a female body to play the mother's role, as it is said in the Murlis :- "He is the true elder mother." Till Krishna's soul is taking shelter in the body of Ram, then true knowledge (Gita) cannot be semonized. Only a 100% nirakari stage can sermonized true knowledge to which Krishna' soul can never attained Supreme Father Shiva's stage. So Krishna's soul has to leave the body of Ram for the new knowledge (which will be the true Gita) for the new world.

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Post09 Apr 2008

pbkindiana wrote:It is extremely shocking that you use a powerful anonymous name as 'trinityshiva' but you are begging for guidance from shivsena Bhai.

Dear Brother,
Omshanti. I don't think pbktrinityshiva meant what he said in a literal sense. May be he was just trying to 'extract' information from shivsena Bhai. :D

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Post09 Apr 2008

shivsena wrote:PBKs remember ShivBaba as a bindi on the forehead of Veerendra Dev Dixit; since the PBKs believe that there are 3 souls in that body, i do not understand how they differentiate between which bindi is Shiva, which is Krishna and which is Ram; Again no inheritance received so far by any PBK.

Dear shivsena Bhai,

Have you receive any inheritance since you are under the assumption that you are having accurate remembrance i.e. having remembrance with the nirakari stage of Rambap to which i feel it is not beneficial and fruitful currently since Rambap hasn't yet attained the 100% nirakari stage. I am extremely convinced that you haven't attained any inheritance yet as you always crave to come into the second class rosary of 108. Krishna's soul will attain first, then the first class rosary of 8 will receive inheritance, then only followed by the second class rosary of 108. So, instead of pointing out that the BKs and the PBKs haven't received inheritance yet, let all of us have remembrance in which ever way we feel comfortable. The only reason inheritance is not apparent currently is because the soul of Ram hasn't attained his 100% nirakari stage yet.
How 108 souls will remember ShivBaba at the end of shooting period and when P. Sangamyug starts.
They will see this body belonging to Krishna( Murli point ''Krishna hai deh-dhari'') and they will remember Ramshivbaba as bindu-swaroop, light swaroop, as Ram has attained 100% nirakari stage and has become equal to Shiva and is indistinguishable from Shiva

When the soul of Ram has attained the 100% nirakari stage equal to Father Shiva, then the merging of the incorporeal stages take place. Then the world will say that God has come, provided of Krishna's soul absence in the body of Ram. When we say that God has come, then God should look like God and not having the impure face of Brahma Baba. It is unrealistic for God to have an impure face or a face that once owned by an impure human being. Also when it is said that "Krishna hai deh-dhari", it denotes that Krishna is body conscious and that's the reason he is interferring in Sakar Murlis and Advanced Knowledge and when he intervenes, it is not termed as true knowledge or sach Gita.
those who just say Baba will get their inheritance in one second. ( Murli point: "Baba kahene se varsa milta hai'') ; In Advanced Knowledge we have said Baba hundreds of times and even given in writing but no one has received any varsa by calling bindishiv as ShivBaba.

When the soul of Ram has attained the 100% nirakari stage and the merging of the nirakari stages take place, then call Baba and get your inheritance in one second. Also it is only possible when Krishna's soul leaves the body of Ram.
Just observe how the present face of Veerendra Dev Dixit bears a striking resemblence to Lekhraj Kirpalani, which proves that it is Krishna who is in charge of the body of Veerendra Dev Dixit (face is the index of mind). There is only a small difference in the rememberence of how 16000 PBKs and 108 souls remember ShivBaba, but this small difference will translate into 108 souls becoming kings and 16000 becoming praja in royal family.

Your presumption that Virendra Dev Dixit bears a striking resemblance to Brahma Baba is mainly because you presume that Brahma Baba is controlling Virendra Dev Dixit. As your presumption is, it triggers the visualization that Virendra Dev Dixit bears a striking resemblance to Brahma Baba. The fact is Virendra Dev Dixit doesn't need anyone's resemblance to make him the master of the world. His nirakari stage itself will make the world bow down to him.
Also think about this point which has just crossed my mind. In Bhakti-marg we always say that ''God is one'' (by using the index finger) ; never it has been said that ''God is zero or point or bindi'' (because the world will see only the 100% nirakari Stage of no.1 soul Ram as Godshivbaba) .

A Murli quote(MU 30/4/98)---"The intellect of people becomes directed towards Krishna or Ram. However they are not GOD."

om shanti---indie

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Post09 Apr 2008

pbkindiana wrote: A Murli quote(MU 30/4/98)---"The intellect of people becomes directed towards Krishna or Ram. However they are not GOD."

YES- Ram and Krishna are not God; only when Ram reaches 100% nirakari stage(Ram=Shiv) then Ramshivbaba becomes revealed as God.
Shiva also sees Ram as God in 100% nirakari stage as per Murlis "Ram ko hi bhagwan ishwar kahete hain."

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Post10 Apr 2008

Shivsena wrote:YES - Ram and Krishna are not God; only when Ram reaches 100% nirakari stage(Ram=Shiv) then Ramshivbaba becomes revealed as God Shiva also sees Ram as God in 100% nirakari stage as per Murlis "Ram ko hi bhagwan ishwar kahete hain."

Dear shivsena Bhai,

When the terms as 'Krishna and Ram' are used, then these personalities have attained perfection. These personalities have put in alot of effort to be conferred with such titles (i.e. deity names). Otherwise how can the personality of Virendra Dev Dixit be given the name of 'Ram'. When Shiv speaks of these personalities, He doesn't use their bodily names but their deity names according to their efforts.

As it is said in MU. 27/3/98 -- "The Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul Shiva comes only once. Rama and Sita, Lakshmi and Narayan also come just once."

So these personalities are conferred with these deity titles only in Confluence Age after they have attained their high stage.

When Supreme Father Shiva is around, Rambap can be considered as God as there is only one GOD. Also Rambap is one step lower than Shiv as it said Shiv-shankar and not vice-versa.

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Post10 Apr 2008

pbkindiana wrote:When Supreme Father Shiva is around, Rambap can be considered as God as there is only one GOD. Also Rambap is one step lower than Shiv as it said Shiv-Shankar and not vice-versa.

Dear indiana.

You are free to believe that incorporeal bindi Shiv is God; for me the practical form of God is Ramshivbaba. I feel that those who believe in bindishiv as God in Sangamyug, are doing the shooting of bhakti-marg where it is believed that God is nirakar jyoti Shiv and is omnipresent. So i do not want to see God as omnipresent by remembering Him in bindi form.

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Post11 Apr 2008

I feel that those who believe in bindishiv as God in Sangamyug, are doing the shooting of Bhakti-marg where it is believed that God is nirakar jyoti Shiv and is omnipresent. So i do not want to see God as omnipresent by remembering Him in bindi form.


Any sort of remembrance itself is " subtle" Bhakti marg whether one remembers incorporeal Shiv or RamShivBaba or ShivBaba or some one else, whether it is the remembrance by outside worldly people, by BK's or by PBK's.

Once this subtle or unlimited Bhakti marg ends(or shooting period of 63 births ends), constant aatmik stithi starts or swarg starts or 21st birth starts. In swarg(constant aatmik sthithi), we do not remember the Father. We are just constant in aatmik sthithi. But in shooting period we are not constantly in aatmik sthithi and therefore there is dehabhimaan in percentage. Shooting period(dehabhimaaan of 63 births) is never called Gyan marg, but called as subtle Bhakti marg or Bhakti marg in unlimited sense. It is only in the shooting period(subtle Bhakti marg) that we have to remember the Father to become soul conscious again and again. There is no remembrance of the Father in the constant aatmik state(swarg) .Therefore, all those who remember the Father (irrespective of His form) are doing subtle Bhakti or Bhakti in unlimited sense. When dehabhimaan ends completely or when aatmik stihthi starts continously, then it is called as real Gyan marg or Gyan marg in unlimited sense. This detail is according to the Murli point below.

"Dehabhimaani sabhi hain bhakimarg waale, aatma abhimaani hain Gyan marg waale" mu 4/7/1968.

So, constant aatmik stithi is only Gyan marg. If there is any percentage of dehabhimaan(current state), then that is subtle Bhakti or Bhakti in unlimited sense.Since no one has become devta(constant soul conscious or constant aatmik state) till now, everyone soul is in Bhakti marg of unlimited sense. When Bhakti marg (dehabhimaan) ends, Gyan marg( constant aatma abhimaani) starts because when there is Bhakti(dehabhimaan), there is no Gyan(aatmaabhimaan) and vice versa.

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Post12 Apr 2008

"Kut ootarna" is not a single day process.



" is samaya ajoon tamopradhaan sein rajo tak gaye hain. Abhi Sato, Satopradhaan tak jaana hain.Phat sein satopradhaan nahi ban saktein hain" mu 12/12/2000

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Post13 Apr 2008

pbkindiana wrote: Your presumption that Veerendra Dev Dixit bears a striking resemblance to Brahma Baba is mainly because you presume that Brahma Baba is controlling Veerendra Dev Dixit. As your presumption is, it triggers the visualization that Veerendra Dev Dixit bears a striking resemblance to Brahma Baba. The fact is Veerendra Dev Dixit doesn't need anyone's resemblance to make him the master of the world. His nirakari stage itself will make the world bow down to him.
Om Shanti---indie


This post is for those PBKs, who feel that i am imagining things and i have no base or evidence from the Murlis to support my imagination.

It is said in Murlis "manushya Brahma ko dekh kitna moonjte hai, kyon ki Bap ki pehchan nahin hai."( mu. 22-4-05).(meaning that human beings get confused after seeing Brahma, because they have no introduction of Father.) Which Humans get confused ????
It is also said that " Brahma ko dekh manushya ka matha kharab ho jaata hai."(meaning that human beings beat their heads on seeing Brahma); Which humans will beat their heads???
Also it has been said the "Vishnu so Brahma banane mein 5000 saal lagte hain aur Brahma so Vishnu banane mein ek second lagta hai"( meaning it takes 5000 years for Vishnu to become Brahma and it takes one second for Brahma to become Vishnu).
Also it has been said in mu 7-9-05, that "Brahma ki shakal tum har 5000 saal bad dekhenge; iss raaj ko samajne mein badi vishal buddhi chahiye''(meaning you see that face of Brahma every 5000 years; this secret can be understood only by those who have a very powerful intellect)
It is also said that "Brahma ko samjane mein badi buddhi chahiye; gode-sawaar aur pyade moonj jaate hai"(meaning that to understand Brahma one should have a big intellect; horse-men and soldiers get confused)

So from all the above points, it should become amply clear to all PBKs that it is very difficult to understand Brahma's part and the part of prajapita Brahma is still not started and the true PBK Brahmins are still not created by mouth of P. Brahma, since in the whole 5000 years, Brahma's part lasts only for 1 second and all those who recognise Brahma in that one second will become true Brahmins. Also it is said that last paper is of one second and one question only, and those who recognise P. Brahma in that one second, will be eligible for coming in 108 beads, and those souls who do not catch that second, will then become confused and beat their heads as they have not recognised that the same Brahma who was in Subtle Region, has now become prajapita Brahma(100% sharir-dhari) through the same body of Virendra Dev Dixit, and Ram's soul has become ShivBaba(100% a-shariri), as it is also said in Murli (27-4-01) "Uparwala so neechewala aur neechewala so uparwala, ek hi hai"(''one who is above in Subtle Region is the same as one who is below and one who is here is the same as one who is above''); this secret requires a very powerful intellect to understand.

From all the above points, i have come to the conclusion that the present face of Virendra Dev Dixit will resemble that of Lekhraj Kirpalani in future and that is why all BKs and PBKs, who have not studied the Murlis, during the period Brahma ki raat, will become confused and beat their heads, as they have not known the power of Mother Nature, who is the greatest comestic surgeon of all and all the plastic surgeons of the world today are also trying emulate Mother Nature by changing the face of human beings in rememberence of what happened in Sangamyug.

Also it has been said in Murlis that " Brahma ko sabse jaasti gaali milti hai"(meaning that Brahma receives the maximium curses); now which Brahma receives the maximum curses???? and why?????
In the beginning of the Yagya in 1937, Lekhraj Kirpalani had visions of Krishna and Vishnu, and all those kanyas who saw Lekhraj Kirpalani as Krishna ran away from home and the outside world cursed Lekhraj Kirpalani(Krishna's soul) ; the same thing will be repeated in the end(adi so anth), when all the vijaymala souls will see visions of Krishna through the body of Virendra Dev Dixit, and vijaymala will enjoy ati-indriya sukh in Vaikunth, and all those who have surrendered to Virendra Dev Dixit(thinking it is ShivBaba) will be left behind, then all PBKs will realise that they have been taken for a ride by Krishna and will start cursing Krishna(Brahma); and this is remembered in mahabharat scriptures as gandhari(wife of king Dhitrashtra), who cursed Krishna for causing a war between Pandavs and kauravs.(gandhari is a character in mahabharat who had covered her eyes, as her husband was blind)

Also it has been said in Murlis that ''kalank jiss par lagte hain wohi kalanki-dhar avtaar bante hain"(meaning that one who gets charged will then accept all the charges levelled against Him and will become Kalanki-dhar avtaar); the whole Hindu world knows about kalki-avtar(an incarnation of Vishnu), who will come at the end of Kaliyug and then the whole world will be destroyed; but the BKs and PBKs, who are predicting the end of the world, do not know themselves who is this kalki-avtaar and when and how will he be revealed at the end of this behad ka drama; as per my churning, it is the the soul of Krishna(Brahma so Vishnu) who will be revealed as kalki-avtaar through the body of Virendra Dev Dixit (as Ram will then be revealed as ShivBaba) and then Krishna will accept that he had been given the mayavi part to mislead the PBKs away from the practical form of God(Ramshivbaba), to make souls numberwise.

Conclusion: The whole story (Sangamyugi ramayan) is on Krishna(Bharat) not Ram, who gets revealed only in the end as Ramshivbaba; only it needs a great intellect and churning of Murlis to understand this fact. I leave it for readers to decide whether i am imagining things or speaking some sense as per the Murlis.

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shivsena wrote:in the whole 5000 years, Brahma's part lasts only for 1 second and all those who recognise Brahma in that one second will become true Brahmins. Also it is said that last paper is of one second and one question only, and those who recognise P. Brahma in that one second, will be eligible for coming in 108 beads, and those souls who do not catch that second, will then become confused and beat their heads as they have not recognised that the same Brahma who was in Subtle Region, has now become Prajapita Brahma(100% sharir-dhari) through the same body of Veerendra Dev Dixit, and Ram's soul has become ShivBaba(100% a-shariri)

Since you have already declared January, 2010 as the time for revelation of Ramshivbaba, should we constue that the 'one second' of Brahma that you are talking about will be in January, 2010? If so, what will happen in the period from Jan, 2010 to 2036?

as per my churning, it is the the soul of Krishna(Brahma so Vishnu) who will be revealed as kalki-avtaar through the body of Veerendra Dev Dixit (as Ram will then be revealed as ShivBaba) and then Krishna will accept that he had been given the mayavi part to mislead the PBKs away from the practical form of God(Ramshivbaba), to make souls numberwise.

Since you have said that Baba Virendra Dev Dixit will attain the form of Dada Lekhraj, will his voice also change to that of Brahma Baba's voice to make the above declaration? Will that declaration be made in January, 2010? Will the soul of Krishna leave the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit after January, 2010?

Kalank in Hindi means false allegations. Kalankidhar means someone who has been falsely implicated. When you believe that it is the soul of Krishna who is misleading all the BKs/PBKs, then how can the soul of Krishna be kalankidhar? It should be the soul of Ram who is kalankidhar.

In the Murlis that you believe, it has been said umpteen no. of times that (the soul of) Krishna cannot come back with the same features that it had in the Golden Age. Similarly, how can Baba Virendra Dev Dixit attain the physical features of Dada Lekhraj in the Confluence Age?

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Post14 Apr 2008

It is said in Murlis "manushya Brahma ko dekh kitna moonjte hai, kyon ki Bap ki pehchan nahin hai."( mu. 22-4-05).(meaning that human beings get confused after seeing Brahma, because they have no introduction of Father.) Which Humans get confused ????

Certainly not the PBKs who have the awareness that Brahma alias Krishna is playing a part in the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. Those who haven't recognized Shiv's presence in the corporeal Chariot currently, they are the ones who will get confused seeing Brahma, who sometimes show himself in the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit, but Baba Virendra Dev Dixit will never have Brahma alias Krishna's striking resemblance when He has attained the 100% nirakari stage. Will the most powerful man on earth as Baba Virendra Dev Dixit be conferred the title of 'Ram' when he makes the world bow down to him with his nirakari stage or will he be conferred the title of 'Ram' when he has the striking resemblance of Brahma Baba? In Confluence Age we are upgrading our 'stage' and not our looks.
It is also said that " Brahma ko dekh manushya ka matha kharab ho jaata hai."(meaning that human beings beat their heads on seeing Brahma); Which humans will beat their heads???

I am asking the same question to you - 'which human beings will beat their heads? Is it those human beings who know where Brahma alias Krishna is currently now or those human beings who don't know where Brahma alias Krishna is at present playing his part?
Also it has been said the "Vishnu so Brahma banane mein 5000 saal lagte hain aur Brahma so Vishnu banane mein ek second lagta hai"( meaning it takes 5000 years for Vishnu to become Brahma and it takes one second for Brahma to become Vishnu).

Vishnu means the perfect stage and the soul of Ram has to become Vishnu as in the scriptures, it is shown Vishnu lying on a bed-formed snake. Only the soul of Ram has the capability to conquer the vices 100% as he made the snake of vices his subordinate.
Also it has been said in mu 7-9-05, that "Brahma ki shakal tum har 5000 saal bad dekhenge; iss raaj ko samajne mein badi vishal buddhi chahiye''(meaning you see that face of Brahma every 5000 years; this secret can be understood only by those who have a very powerful intellect)It is also said that "Brahma ko samjane mein badi buddhi chahiye; gode-sawaar aur pyade moonj jaate hai"(meaning that to understand Brahma one should have a big intellect; horse-men and soldiers get confused) So from all the above points, it should become amply clear to all PBKs that it is very difficult to understand Brahma's part and the part of Prajapita Brahma is still not started and the true PBK Brahmins are still not created by mouth of P. Brahma, since in the whole 5000 years, Brahma's part lasts only for 1 second and all those who recognise Brahma in that one second will become true Brahmins. Also it is said that last paper is of one second and one question only, and those who recognise P. Brahma in that one second, will be eligible for coming in 108 beads, and those souls who do not catch that second, will then become confused and beat their heads as they have not recognised that the same Brahma who was in Subtle Region, has now become Prajapita Brahma(100% sharir-dhari) through the same body of Veerendra Dev Dixit, and Ram's soul has become ShivBaba(100% a-shariri), as it is also said in Murli (27-4-01) "Uparwala so neechewala aur neechewala so uparwala, ek hi hai"(''one who is above in Subtle Region is the same as one who is below and one who is here is the same as one who is above''); this secret requires a very powerful intellect to understand.

To understand Brahma denotes that one should have a big intellect to detect who is speaking in the body of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. Is it Brahma alias Krishna or Prajapita alias Ram? This study is all about recognizing the soul and not the physical features. If one is able to detect who the speaker is, then one will not get confused.
Conclusion: The whole story (Sangamyugi ramayan) is on Krishna(Bharat) not Ram, who gets revealed only in the end as Ramshivbaba; only it needs a great intellect and churning of Murlis to understand this fact. I leave it for readers to decide whether i am imagining things or speaking some sense as per the Murlis.

Dear PBKs --- If you are going to take his churnings for granted, then you will become his subjects which is not worth a penny. A great intellect will never point a finger at others and constantly humility is prevalent in all his churnings. To-date he cannot produce any Murli quote which indicates that Ramshivbaba is the sermonizer of knowledge but it is mentioned in mu. dated 27/9/75 :-[b] "The sermonizer of Godly knowledge, the bestower of sadgati to all is the Trimurthi Supreme Father Shiva." Also have the awareness that Krishna's soul is interferring in Advanced Knowledge as he had also intervened in Sakar Murlis too. Also have the awareness that Advanced Knowledge is not the final segment of this Godly knowledge. As long as Krishna's soul interferes in any sort of knowledge, then knowledge cannot be termed as true Gita. When ShivBaba speaks knowledge, devoid completely of Krishna's soul interferrence, then only it is called true knowledge or true Gita as it is said in AV 12/3/75 -- "This is a new knowledge for new world. They should experience both novelty and truth. They should say that the new knowledge has become clear today."

Om Shanti -- indie

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Post14 Apr 2008

pbkindiana wrote:When Supreme Father Shiva is around, Rambap can be considered as God as there is only one GOD. Also Rambap is one step lower than Shiv as it said Shiv-Shankar and not vice-versa.

Dear Brothers,

The above sentence should be as - When Supreme Father Shiva is around, Rambap cannot be considered as GOD as there is only one God.

om sahnti -- indie

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Post15 Apr 2008

suryavanshi wrote:is samaya ajoon tamopradhaan sein rajo tak gaye hain. Abhi Sato, Satopradhaan tak jaana hain.Phat sein satopradhaan nahi ban saktein hain" mu 12/12/2000

Dear PBKs:

Also it has been said a many times, hum ulti sidhi chadte hai (we climb The Ladder backwards). Does this mean that the current shooting that we are doing of Kaliyug/dwaparyug is reverse (5000 years backwards to 2500 years)?

Dear PBK Brother shivsena:

Based on your views on this forum does this mean that we start from ghor andhiyara (utter darkness) in 1988-89 (when Brahma did not go to Mount Abu) to grey hue (start of Dwapar yug) and then increasing brightness (from Treata yug to Sat yug) in Brahma ka din? If the Brahma ka din shooting is not reversed, it means that there will 16 kalas degrading to 14 kalas!!!
(chadti kala tere bhane sub ka bhala )
Om Shanti
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