Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

for Prajapita Brahma Kumaris (Advance Party), or those interested in becoming PBKs, to discuss AIVV matters in an open, non-judgemental manner.
Forum rules Read only. BK and PBK followers wishing to discuss "The Knowledge" from the point of view of a "believer", please use; http://www.bk-pbk.info.
  • Message
  • Author
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post26 May 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.463, Audio Cassette No.959, dated 15.07.06, Tadepalligudem,

Clarification of Murli-dated 21.3.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


.....He (Yah or this one) too says that I try. Who says? Brahma Baba says- I too try to remember ShivBaba. I try to remember ShivBaba; who says? Brahma Baba. Baba would say – He is also sinful (patit), isn’t he? That is why he tries. What? Who will have to make efforts? While treading the path of knowledge, if someone is progressing very well on the path of knowledge, if someone is doing a lot of service, if someone is doing a lot of inculcation (dhaarnaa) and if he suddenly falls into gutter, then the intellect becomes impure, isn’t it? So would he be able to remember Baba or not? When he has become sinful, then he cannot remember Baba. So it has been said – he too says that I try to remember ShivBaba. Baba would say. Baba would say – when would he say? When Baba is present, then he would say. He would say that – this one (yah) is also sinful, isn’t he? Who is sinful? This Brahma is sinful; that is why he tries to remember. Achha! Does not the one, who plays the part of Baba, have to make efforts? Arey! (Someone said – He was in the beginning) Was he in the beginning? Arey, Brahma has to make efforts. Does not the one, who plays the part of ShivBaba, have to make efforts to remember him? Does he have to (make efforts)? (Someone said – when the intellect becomes pure, at that time). Is it when the intellect becomes pure? It is not a matter of 1976. Is it not from 1976? After the incorporeal? What has been written in the picture of Lakshmi and Narayan? The unrighteousness (bhrashtaachaar) and vices (vikaar) would end. From when? From 1976. When the unrighteousness itself ends, then will one have to make efforts to remember or would the stage be achieved soon automatically? Brahma says – I try, even then I forget. Baba would say – he is also sinful, isn’t he? He has to make efforts to remember ShivBaba. ‘Yah’ (this one or he) refers to whom? Brahma. He is becoming pure. Who? Brahma Baba. Will it be said for Lakshmi and Narayan that they are becoming pure? When were Lakshmi and Narayan born? They were born in 1976. So are they becoming pure or has their mind and intellect become pure? They have become pure through the mind and intellect from that time itself.

He is also a student like you. What? Who is telling? He is also a student like you only. Is he a student or teacher? He is a student. He is not the one who teaches. The teacher, the Supreme Teacher, the one who teaches is one only. Nobody can teach him. Yes, we have to just follow him. What should we do with ‘him’? We have to follow him. In which matter do we have to follow him? Where it is matter of inculcation (dhaarnaa), we have to follow Brahma in practical life, in practical actions. It is not that we have to follow Shankar. We should not follow Shankar in the practical life. Whom should we follow? We have to follow Brahma. And you should accept my words. You must listen to The Knowledge that I give, narrate, and clarify through the mouth in the form of a teacher; you should listen to my words. You have to follow my directions, but in the matter of actions, you have to follow this Brahma, because he makes good efforts to remain in remembrance. What? When he enters into Gulzar Dadi, then one can know by looking at his stage that - whether he is making efforts or not? He makes good efforts only, doesn’t he? So you must learn from him. What? You must learn from him to make efforts of remembrance. He does not lose courage. What? (He does not lose courage) that I have suffered heart failure through the corporeal body; so what can I do? He remains stable in the war. Deham va paatyaami. What? Even if the body is gone, he is not going to leave making efforts. We must learn from him.

The journey of remembrance is number one. There are four subjects; among the four subjects the number one subject is the journey of remembrance (Yaad kee yaatra). The study (padhaai) is also very easy. Note every night that – what are the things that I have done in the entire day? What all did I do? Should you note the good things or should you note the bad things also? How much service have you done and how much disservice have you done? Write everything. One must obtain advice from the Father in every matter. If you have done good service, then that should also be presented before the Father – have I committed any mistake? Even if you have done anything wrong, you must take the advice of the Father. It is not a matter of money at all. What? In the potamail, children write about the money alone. Today we have earned so much. We have spent so much. Baba says – it is not a matter of money at all. What did Mama bring? Baba does not want your money. What does he want? Father does not want money. He wants the children with a true heart. There are not children with a true heart. What? What had Mama brought along with her?

These Kumaris are free. Mama was a Kumari, wasn’t she? So are all the Kumaris free in their life? Are all the Kumaris free? Is there anyone in bondage? Are there no Kumaris in bondages? (Someone said – they are in more bondage) Are they in more bondage? No. If they had been in more bondage, then how could more Kumaris surrender? It means that Kumaris are free, but some get into the bondages of the mind. Kumaris are free. There is no burden on the Kumaris. If there is any burden, then they feel that the burden should be put to use in the same task. That Government spends so many billions (padma)? Not crores, not a thousand millions (arab). Billions are being spent. Unlimited amount (akoot) is being spent. And here? Here the biggest Government of the world is getting established. The Government that rules over the entire world. What is the expenditure (kharcha) here? There is no expenditure here.

The Father enables you to obtain the kingship of the world, which does not involve any expenditure. Some say – Baba we wish to establish a Gitapathshala. Can we build at least one room? Baba forbids that also. No. Clean the same room where you sleep, eat, cook, and then organize class there itself. Here there is no need for rooms, etc. also. This study can be undertaken in a hut also. You children must remain introvert (antarmukhi) and in happiness. You must not indulge in luxuries (thaat-baat) that we should have a good hall, good house, and then the Gitapathshala should start. No, those who have obtained the inheritance in the last Kalpa would only come and listen. So one should not be disheartened. Those children, who are poor, think that – if we had money, then we would also have opened a Gitapathshala. So the Father says – there is no need to become disheartened.

There is darkness in the world. There is light in your intellect. The gems that the Father gives you are like a property (milkiyat) worth lakhs of rupees. So that knowledge of scriptures is worthlessness (kakhpan) of Bhakti. That Bhakti is for degradation (durgati). The worthlessness that they are receiving is causing the degradation of their mind and intellect also. It is causing sins through the words also and the bodily organs are also going towards a pit. A real businessman is one, who maintains a daily account (potamail). Then you would also progress a lot. You would also be careful.

If you commit a mistake, then you should hold your ears (i.e. repent). What? If you commit a mistake, if any mistake is committed; potamail is written, mistakes are committed; so what should one do? (Someone said – one should hold the ears) Whose ears? If someone has committed a mistake, then one should hold the ears – I would not commit such mistake again. Write to Baba; then the mistake would definitely be over. Sins (gunaah) are committed, isn’t it? Now the advice is given face to face. What? We have been committing mistakes since 63 births, we have been committing sins; there was no question of reforming there. There was no one to reform. And now, now the Father has come face to face. He gives advice face to face. Father feels pity at those children who are true from inside and outside. On which kind of children? Those who are true inside also and true outside also. The one, who is one thing on the inside and assumes a different form outside, is very harmful (nuksaankaari). In this Brahmin family the one who is one thing on the inside and assumes a different form outside is very fearful (khaufnaak) and dangerous (khatarnaak). Omshanti.
(Concluded)
----------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post28 May 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


Omshanti. Today’s Murli is a morning class dated 16th May, 1967. The record played is – nirbal say ladaai balwaan kee (It is a fight between a weak person and a stong person). Hm? Is it a fight between a weak person and a strong person or is it a fight between two strong persons? Hm? (Someone said – It is a fight with a weak person) Is it with a weak person? Arey! Then, what for is he strong? Hm? What is the truth? In the Iron-Aged world the strong persons start fighting with the weak ones. Hm. So those who are strong wish to dominate over the weak ones, and God helps them (i.e. the weak ones). It is mentioned in the scriptures that when the Mahabharata war took place, then the Yadavas and the Kauravas were very strong. Their Army was also very big. What was its size? Eighteen Akshauhini Army (a huge army). It means that the entire world consisted of the Yadavas and Kauravas and how big was the army on the side of the Pandavas? There were only five Pandavas. They did not have any Army. It is said that Duryodhan went to Krishna and said – I want your entire kingdom, Army, wealth, strength, respect and position because he, i.e. Krishna was the head of the Yadava community. And Arjun said – I do not want anything from you. O God Krishna! I want only you. So Arjun used to observe (Krishna) in the form of God and Duryodhan did not used to observe in the form of God, but he used to think that – he is a big personality; he has a big army; he is very strong. So God sided with Arjun. His entire kingdom, Army went to the Kauravas. So this was a fight between the weak ones and the strong Kauravas and Yadavas.

Those children, who are nice, sensible and intelligent (samajhdaar), understand the meaning of this song nicely that – in today’s world consisting of the community of Ravan, Maya-Ravan is very strong and the children are handful (mutthibhar), whose connection of the intellect (buddhiyog) is towards the abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam), abode of peace (shaantidhaam). Whose? The intellect of the children; because, those whose connection of the intellect is towards the heaven, have to face a lot of storms of Maya. Why? Which world does Maya rule? Hm? The rule of the hellish world (naarkeey duniya) is in the hands of Maya. She does not want anyone to escape from her kingdom. So she creates storms. Now the Father turns your face away from Maya-Ravan. He turns your face away from the old world. Even in the days of ignorance (agyaan kaal) one gets detached from the old house. An attachment develops for the new house. So the face gets turned away from the old world and then they keep remembering the new house that when would it get ready. So for you which is the new house? And which is the old house? This is a house-like world. God comes and constructs the house-like new world for you children and the house of old world, which is in the hands of the demoniac world, in the hands of the demons, crumbles.

So now you children also have the same thing in the mind – when would our heaven get established? What is in your mind? It is in your mind – is it more in your mind that when our new world would get established or is it more in your mind that when this old world would get destroyed? Which thing is more in your mind? Hm? (Someone said – this old world should get destroyed soon). Is it more in your mind that this old world should get destroyed? OK, of both these matters, which is negative and which is positive? Which is a good thing? (Everyone said – establishment) We would be benefited if the new world gets established. We have nothing to do with the destruction of the old world or otherwise because our intellect is already disconnected from that world. So, one should create a positive thought that our new house should get ready soon. And Baba also says that first the establishment would take place and then the destruction would take place automatically. We need not make any efforts for destruction.

Heaven would get established. You know about heaven, don’t you? Do you know? Hm? Do you know about heaven (swarg)? Swa means soul. Golden Age means went. We know that what is heaven? The place where one develops soul conscious stage is heaven and the place where one becomes body conscious is hell (nark). So you know what is heaven? Your intellect is focused towards heaven. You know and your intellect is also directed towards the soul conscious stage (swa sthiti). Your intellect should not be directed towards thinking about others (parchintan) because you know that ‘thinking about others leads to downfall (patan)’ and thinking about the self (swachintan, i.e. thinking about the soul) leads to progress (unnati).

You also know that we would go to the abode of peace and then come to the abode of prosperity. It cannot be possible that you would directly go to the abode of prosperity. Hm? If someone falls sick, if someone is very ill, if someone is suffering from fever, if the entire body is experiencing weakness and if you place a nice-smelling Rasgulla (a sweet) in front of him. So would he feel like eating it? (Someone said – no) He would not have the desire to experience prosperity. However much nice thing may be placed in front of him, but the bodily organs would not accept it. So, one does not require prosperity first. What is required first? The peacelessness that pervades the body, every nerve; the entire body is disturbed; it requires peace. So, first peace is required; then, when one achieves peace, when the fever subsides, when one is relieved of the pain, when one experiences peace, comfort, then one gets a comfortable sleep. One goes to sleep, isn’t it? One does not require prosperity first. One requires peace first. And when he wakes up, when he is calm, then he would like to eat something good. One also feels hungry
...(to be continued)
--------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post29 May 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


...…So you know that we would go to the abode of peace (shaantidhaam) and then we would come tothe abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam). Those demons do not know about this. What? They do not know that we would go to the abode of peace and then we would come to the abode of prosperity. Why? It is because their rule is in the abode of sorrows (dukhdhaam). Where do the demons rule? They rule in the world of peacelessness; they rule in the abode of sorrows. So, where do they return from the abode of peace? (Someone said – to the abode of sorrows) Dhat! (Someone said – to the hell) They come in the hellish world, but even then God grants them prosperity to some extent. Everyone certainly gets prosperity for at least one birth. Everyone has to definitely depart from this abode of sorrows. Where? To the abode of peace and after going to the abode of peace, they have to certainly come to the abode of prosperity at least for one birth. Someone may say that we should come directly from the abode of peace to the abode of sorrows, to the hell, but nobody can do so. From the abode of peace, where do they have to come to? They have to come to the abode of prosperity, in true salvation (sadgati) for at least one birth.

So the connection of your intellect (buddhiyog) is towards heaven. Everyone has to depart from this abode of sorrows. The human beings of the entire world have to pass through that abode of sorrows. There would not be any human being in this world, which leaves this abode of sorrows and does not go to the abode of peace, to the abode of the Father. The Father keeps explaining – Children, now the gates of heaven (swarg kay dwaar) are opening. What? The gate of hell is going to close now and the gate of heaven is going to open. Now your intellect should be directed towards heaven. What? It should neither be directed towards the destruction, nor towards the abode of peacelessness (ashaantidhaam), nor towards the abode of sorrows. The abode of peacelessness and abode of sorrows is one and the same thing. Where the connection of your intellect should be directed? Hm? It should be directed towards the abode of peace and the abode of prosperity.

The one who goes to heaven is called a pure one (pavitra). What? Who is called a pure one? (Someone said – heaven) The one, who becomes desirous (ichhuk) of achieving the soul conscious stage (swasthiti) is called – where does he desire to go? He is desirous of going to heaven and the one who remains busy in the body and bodily relationships; the one, who does not become soul conscious at all; so where is he desirous of going? (Someone said – hell) He is desirous of going to hell. One who goes to hell is called an impure one. Whether one goes to hell through his mind, whether he goes to hell through the body, whether one goes to nark, i.e. hell through the bodily organs, then is he a pure one or an impure one? He would be called an impure one.

Even while living in a household (grihastha vyavhaar), your intellect is directed towards the heaven. You know that in this Iron-Aged hellish world the household is a world of dirty water (keechad). It is a hellish world. Who has created this (hellish) world? It is a world created by man, human being. Whatever a human being does, whatever he makes, becomes a cause for sorrow (dukhdaayi). Man (nar) creates hell (nark) and the one who remains in soul consciousness forever; who? Sadaa Shiv. He creates heaven. Suppose, in a house, the Father’s intellect is directed towards heaven and if the intellect of the child is directed towards hell, then how can both live in the same house? One is a swan (hans) and one is a crane (bagula). A swan and a crane cannot live together.

In this world also everyone is a child of God. Whose offspring is the entire world? They are the children of God only. It is contained in the intellect of some children that – we shall go to heaven tomorrow. Where is their intellect directed? It is directed towards heaven. Those, in whose intellect the gift of God, i.e. The Knowledge has got fitted, feel that now we have to go to heaven. We have to kick this hellish world. So their intellect is directed towards heaven. Although the children are handful (mutthibhar), and where is the intellect of the rest of the world directed? It is directed towards hell. They (i.e. the handful of children) want to make this world itself a heaven. So the Father says – Children, now kick this hellish world through your intellect forever. What? Do not remember at all. If they are children, they would certainly kick and if they are the immature children (kachhey bachhey) of God, if their intellect goes more towards Ravan or if they enter the side of Ravan repeatedly, then their intellect would not be directed towards heaven.

So the intellect of some children would be directed towards heaven and the intellect of some children repeatedly gets diverted towards hell; so what would be said about it? Until when would they be together? If the intellect of one remains busy in the matters of the hellish world and if another child is such that his intellect remains busy in the matters of heaven, and if both are placed together, then how long will they live together? One picks up dirt (gand); one picks up pearls (moti), one picks up the gems of knowledge (gyaan rattan), then they cannot remain together. That is why it has been said. Well, you cannot go to the heaven directly. Will you be able to go? (Someone said – No) You would not be able to go directly.

So it has been said – you children bring the Soul World (Paramdham) down to this world itself. What? You turn your face away from this hellish world. You cannot go to heaven directly. So what do you do? Your intellect turns towards the abode of peace. You bring the abode of peace down to this world itself. How would you bring it down? How would you bring the abode of peace down to this world? Will there be any magic (choo-mantra)? (Everyone said – No) Will it not take place? Hm? It would take place. A hint has been given. What? A hint has been given – the residents of Madhuban would have to leave Madhuban. The residents of Gyaan Sarovar would have to leave the Gyan Sarovar and the residents of Gitapathshalas would have to leave the Gitapathshalas. What does it mean? Hm? The residents of Madhuban would have to leave Madhuban because their intellect is going towards the respect and position (maan-martaba) of the outside world. Their intellect is not directed towards heaven; it is not directed towards soul consciousness. Their intellect is directed towards the world of Ravan. They are busy in collecting wealth and property (dhan-sampatti). So they are bound to leave Madhuban
...(to be continued)
---------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post30 May 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


... Those who have constructed the Gyan Sarovar of bricks (a buildings complex built by BKs at Mount Abu) feel that we are the residents of Gyaan Sarovar (a lake of knowledge). Rest of the world is living in agyaan sarovar (a lake of ignorance), but actually the abode of bricks is not called Gyaan Sarovar. What is called Gyaan Sarovar? Gyaan Maan Sarovar. It is said that the Mansarovar Lake is on the mountains. Those who attain a high stage, attain that high stage on the basis of knowledge. What is knowledge? Knowledge means information (jaankaari). Is it information of the truth (asliyat) or the duplicate (naklipanaa)? God gives The Knowledge of truth. The duplicate information is contained in the intellect of the rest of the world and God gives the true information, i.e. true knowledge.

Whatever knowledge human beings narrate is all false knowledge. They do not possess true knowledge because all of them are entangled in The Cycle of birth and death. When someone dies, they forget everything about the past birth. So human beings belong to the abode of death (mrityulok); that is why they do not possess The Knowledge of The Cycle of 84 births. God does not enter into the abode of death at all. God neither takes birth nor dies. He is beyond birth and death. He takes birth, but it is an alokik (unworldly) birth. It is not a physical birth. So, when He is beyond The Cycle of birth and death itself, He possesses The Knowledge of many births. He always possesses it. He is Sadaa Shiv. What? Satya, i.e. truth means Shiv, i.e. benefactor. Truth is kalyaankaari, i.e. benefactor. Truth itself is called Shiv. He is truth God Father. What? Englishmen also say that God Father is truth. So the one, who knows truth, establishes the land of truth (sachhkhand) and those who know falsehood (jhoot) establish the land of falsehood (jhoothkhand).

So now it has fitted into your intellect that – whatever Gitapathshalas exist – do they exist in the abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam) or in the abode of sorrows (dukhdhaam)? (Someone said – they exist in the abode of prosperity) Are they in the abode of prosperity? In which world do the Gitapathshalas exist? The Gitapathshalas exist in the abode of sorrows and whose rule is it in the abode of sorrows? It is a rule of Ravan. Although we are studying The Knowledge of God, but it is in our intellect that - where are we living? We do we reside practically now? We are residents of the world of hell. We are residing in the world of kingdom of Ravan. It is said that (we are in Ashok Vatika) Hm. It is said that – “jal may rah ka magarmachh say vair” (developing enimity with the crocodile while living in the same waters). We are living in the world of kingdom of Ravan. Such a big kingdom of Ravan exists, where it is ‘as the king so the subjects’ (yatha raja tatha praja). So, to which community does the entire praja (subjects) belong? It belongs to the community of Ravan and even when we check ourselves, we find that our intellect also goes to the world of hell. Where does it go in between? It goes towards the world of hell. We too certainly act according to the proverb of ‘yatha raja tatha praja’ (as the king, so are the subjects).

It is not that we remain nishchaybuddhi (faithful towards God) forever. Maya shakes us in between. It shakes us through the bodily organs; it shakes us through the words. It shakes us through the bodily organs also; it shakes us through the words also and it (someone said –shakes us) through the vision also; vision also becomes polluted. So Ravan casts his influence on us, does’nt he? So, how can we avoid this influence now? This crocodile (magarmachh) is sitting with its mouth wide open; we go repeatedly into its jaws and God saves us. So how long will it continue? Just now we are nishchaybuddhi and just now we become anishchaybuddhi (i.e. we lose faith). When we become nishchaybuddhi, then the soul experiences some pleasure. When we become anishchaybuddhi, then the soul becomes very sorrowful. So, ultimately, until when will this cycle go on? Hm? It will continue until we don’t leave this world of cranes. If we do not leave easily, then what would happen? (Someone said – One would have to suffer punishments) Now, is there anyone, who has renounced this world through body, through wealth, through mind, whatever time we have in our hands, through that time, through contacts, through relatives? Hm? (A mother said – Nobody renounces and sits) Hasn’t anyone renounced? Is everyone clinging (to the above-mentioned things)? (A Brother said – Baba, they are clinging to some extent) They are definitely clinging to some extent. Hm?

OK, the aim of The Knowledge, the aim of the study, our study, its exam; what is our main exam? “Nashtomoha smritilabdha” (detachment and remembrance)? So have we become detached from the body, mind, wealth, contacts, and relatives hundred percent? Hm? (A mother said – Baba they are clinging). They have not become nashtomoha and 70 years of this Confluence Age have passed. Now a little time is left. Revelation is going to take place; establishment is going to take place. OK, we would not become the persons who would be involved in establishment; but would anyone become involved or not? (Everyone said – they would become involved) If we don’t become involved in the task of establishment, then someone or the other would certainly become involved. So, the one who becomes involved would achieve a higher number and we would lag behind. Why would we lag behind? (Baba, it is because there is some attachment in the intellect…) Yes, because there is attachment (lagaav) with the body, with the mind, with the wealth, with the time, contacts and with the relatives to some or the other extent. It does not subside. Until the attachment does not subside, until the inclination does not subside, until one does not achieve a strong soul conscious stage that - only those who have become souls, only those who are children of God, only those who are children of the Supreme Soul belong to our family; we don’t have any other family except that. We become partial towards bodily beings. Towards whom do we become partial? We become partial towards the body and bodily relationships. The intellect becomes partial (pakshapaati). What does it prove? It proves that – are we the children of the Supreme Soul or are we the children of Ravan? Even now we are the children of Ravan
...(to be continued)
----------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post31 May 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


... In spite of receiving knowledge for 70 years, even now we are proving to be the children of Ravan because we have not become nashtomoha (detached); we have not become detached from the body and bodily relationships. We even know that the connection of this body is only for one birth. The body that we have got, the bodily relationships that we have got, whatever things of the world connected with the body that we have got, the home and house, land and wealth, factory, all that is connected with only this one birth, isn’t it? They are connected with the body only, aren’t they? Are they related with the soul? (Everyone said – no) In spite of knowing this, the connection of the intellect does not get severed from them. So the number would certainly lag behind. So, ‘delay is dangerous’. What? If we remain careless like this – Arey! If not today, it would certainly get accomplished tomorrow.

God is our companion (saathi); so, it cannot be possible that the companion does not give us company. But are we numberwise companinons or are we number one companions? Numberwise. So why do we become numberwise? If we get included in the list of numberwise companions of God, even the inheritance that we receive would be numberwise. If we have to obtain number one inheritance, then one should become steadfast companions of God in every circumstance. Whose companion? God’s companion. Then one would receive the number one inheritance.

We must check the power of the body that – for whom is the physical power proving to be helpful? One must check repeatedly – this power of the body – to what extent have we used it in the tasks of God in the entire day and to what extent have we invested it for the attachment towards the body, towards the human beings, towards the relatives of the body, towards the contacts? How much time have we invested in the Godly task and how much time have we invested in the body and bodily relationships and contacts? Sometimes it happens that we remain busy in service from morning to evening, we do Godly service, but there is shrewdness (chaalaaki) inside that the persons, whom we are serving, would become very helpful (sahyogi). They would give us a big house, they would give us a big amount; then we would prove to be very serviceable; we would command a lot of respect and position (maan-martabaa). So, is it an achievement (praapti) of the lokik world, is it an achievement of one birth or is it an achievement forever? Our intellect goes towards temporary achievements. God does not teach us temporary achievements. God has come to give us achievements of how many births? We have to do such service, which does not cause achievements of one birth, this birth. How many births’ achievement should the service cause? It should cause the achievements of 21 births and on the basis of 21 births we develop karmic accounts for 63 births also.

So, while living in this hellish world, we should check every moment that out of 24 hours, how long does our intellect go towards the hell and how long does the intellect go towards the forthcoming new world? Otherwise, what would happen? The atmosphere would become such that we would be forced to leave this world. One task is that which we do willingly and one task is that which we perform on being pushed to do so. So which task would cause more achievements? The task that is done willingly would please God also – look, his natural dedication is towards me and if Dharmaraj hits (us with) a stick from behind, and then we turn our face towards God after getting disturbed by the pain due to the beatings of the stick, then it would degrade our post.

So it has been said that a swan and a crane cannot live together. Then why do they live together? They say – Baba Himself has said so. What? We have to maintain a balance between lokik and alokik. Yes, we have to maintain a balance between the lokik and alokik world – this has been said by Baba only. Arey! We do have to maintain a balance. Two boats are moving. One is the boat of hellish world and one is a boat of that world, which takes us to heaven. We have to maintain a balance; one of our legs is in that world. What? We are residents of Confluence Age, aren’t we? We are residents of which age? We are residents of the Confluence Age. One of our legs is in hellish world and one of the legs is in the heavenly world also, but on which leg should we carry more weight? (Everyone said – on the leg that is in heaven) If we balance the weight equally on both legs, if we connect our intellect with that world as well as this world, then the legs would get torn apart.

Even if our body is being used in that world, even if our wealth is being used in that world, even if we are extending cooperation to some extent through our wealth, but where should our entire intellect be directed? Our intellect should remain busy in the new world that is going to arrive. We should remain surrendered there through our intellect. (Until we are anishchaybuddhi) we should accept whatever version of God that is worthy of being accepted through the intellect. To whom should we surrender our intellect? We should surrender it to God. So if the intellect is surrendered, if the mind is surrendered, then wherever is our mind, our body shall be there. Wherever is our mind, our wealth shall also be there. Or we should make it a point, our soul should resolve that – we would not give even a paisa to those belonging to the path of worship. For example, people come to seek donations (chanda); they say – we would prepare the effigy of Ravan; we would enact a drama, we would enact Ramleela (enactment of Epic Ramayan), we would worship devis (female deities). Come on, give us 1000 rupees. We are collecting 1000 rupees from every house. The one who is strong in knowledge would say – we have already given to God whatever we possess. That is a trust (amaanat) for us. We cannot misuse this trust. So however much pressure those people may exert, he would not give even a paisa. He would try to explain – look, tell us – where are those devis? We would give.

(A mataji said – One Baba, i.e. a saint used to come to our place from Haridwar. He used to come every Sunday. When I entered the path of knowledge, I got reformed. So, I used to talk of knowledge. So he said – where have you got entangled? There are still 40 lakh, 32 thousand years for Kaliyug, i.e. the Iron Age to start. It has not yet started. He came twice or thrice; thereafter, when he saw that these people are not giving donations (dakshina), he stopped coming) He stopped coming. So, if so many people become strong, then the world of kingdom of Ravan would not influence us. Where our entire body, mind, wealth, time and contacts would be directed? Where the entire power would be directed? It would be directed towards the Godly task. It would be directed in the task of the Father, who establishes heaven through the soul conscious stage (swasthiti), in the task of SadaaShiv who always remains in soul conscious stage. Our intellect would not be directed in other tasks. Those who achieve such stage would get included in the list of eight. What? Those who get included in the list of 8 would not suffer the punishments of Dharmaraj (Someone said- they would get). No. Hat. They would not suffer. What? The circumstances would not force them to leave the company of cranes because they leave the company of the cranes automatically, willingly. That is why they do not have to suffer the punishments of Dharmaraj. Their entire intellect turns away from the old world
...(to be continued)
----------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post01 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


... What would be the main indication (pehchaan) of those souls, whose intellect is detached from the old world? What is the main objective (lakshya) of this study? (Someone said – getting transformed from a man to Narayan) Yes, yes. When would you become? By imbibing which virtue, by passing which exam would we get transformed from a man to Narayan? There is only one exam. Nashtomoha smritilabdha (detachment and remembrance). One should become detached from the body, bodily relationships, and the things related to the body.

There are many such people also – who give in writing on papers and surrender. What? Giving in writing on papers and surrendering. In the beginning of the Yagya also many such people emerged who wrote with blood and then became opponents (virodhi). It means that they did not surrender through their intellect. What should we do? The connection of our intellect should be with one Father. They even give their body, they even give their wealth, they even use their relatives in Godly service, but even then the intellect keeps acting in its own way. So, the wealth also comes back, the body also comes back and the time and contacts also come back into one’s hand. Well, these things are not put to use in Godly service in the same way as they should be used. That is why it has been said – ‘Nashtomoha smritilabdha’. (We must check) how far have we become capable of passing the last exam of The Knowledge that we have studied so far? We must check that every moment. Has our intellect got detached from all these matters?

If the intellect has got detached, then we would certainly get included in the list of eight.; we would get included in the list of eight, we would get included in the list of eight deities (ashta dev), who extend full cooperation to God in the establishment of the new world. So then, who would remain more prosperous for 84 births? The eight deities would remain more prosperous. In comparison to them, the one who becomes the ninth (deity); what? The rosary consists of 9, 8-9 (beads/gems), isn’t it? A rosary of nine gems. Among them the ninth bead, which would get excluded from that list, would not become prosperous to that extent and all the latter numbers would keep experiencing lesser prosperity. They would be less prosperous in heaven also, they would command lesser respect and position and in the old world that would arrive, the hellish world, even in that world they would experience lesser prosperity.

So it has been said – a swan and a crane cannot live together. Can’t they live together! Can’t they live willingly or can’t they live forcibly (barbas)? Forcibly means under the pressure of others (parvash). What would happen? Hm? If the swan and crane do not separate willingly, then what would happen? Hm? The swan and cranes would be separated under the pressure of others.

Some people ask – What such thing would happen that the residents of Gitapathshalas would have to leave the Gitapathshalas? Will the classes at the Gitapathshalas stop? It cannot happen like that. Arey! Observe even now. The old Gitapathshalas that had been established in the beginning of the path of Advanced Knowledge, and which are functioning even now, in those Gitapathshalas, was the gathering of students better earlier or is it better now? (Someone said – It is better now) Is he talking about the new ones, about the Gitapathshalas which have been established recently or is he talking about the old Gitapathshalas? (Someone said – the new ones) In the Advanced Knowledge there are some such Gitapathshalas which have been functioning since 1976 itself. What? (Everyone said – they are functioning since 1976 itself) And some Gitapathshalas are such that they have been functioning since recent past. So, do the new leaves of a tree appear to be more beautiful (shobhneek) or do the old leaves appear to be more beautiful? The new leaves appear to be more beautiful. Why do the new leaves appear to be more beautiful? It is because they have more power of purity and as they get older, they keep passing through the satopradhaan, satosaamaanya, rajo and tamo stages.

Every thing in the world passes through four stages. What? There is no such thing which does not pass through the four stages. Whether it is a house, whether it is a shop, whether it is a person, whether it is an animal, a bird – whatever it is, everything has to pass through the satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo, and tamo stages. The Knowledge also, The Knowledge also passes through four stages. When someone enters (the path of knowledge), in the beginning, there is a lot of joy. I have found God! Then slowly they get into the company of the world, and others. When they get into the company of others, then they start getting coloured (i.e.influenced) by their company. They come into familiarity. Whenever one’s separate family begins to be formed, the downfall starts from that point itself
...(to be continued)
-----------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post02 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


....Human being is habitual (aadee). Habitual of what? What is he habitual of? He has been habitual of getting coloured by the company since many births. It is not true that the downfall (girtee kalaa, i.e. decrease in celestial degrees) begins from the Copper Age only. Does the downfall begin from the Copper Age only? Does the downfall not take place in the Golden Age? The downfall begins from the first birth of the Golden Age itself. Why does the downfall take place? Soul consciousness is prevalent there. (Someone said something) No, other religions do not exist there at all. Then, why does the downfall take place? It is because the weak souls coming from above; we were powerful, but the souls with lesser celestial degrees (i.e. lesser soul consciousness), keep descending from above in large numbers.

Suppose, there were four and a lakh souls in the beginning of the Golden Age, and those four and a half lakhs give birth to four and a half lakh children; both are perfect in 16 celestial degrees (16 kalaa sampoorna). Children are also perfect in 16 celestial degrees and those who give birth are also perfect in 16 celestial degrees. Thereafter, will the souls which descend later on be perfect in 16 celestial degrees or will the weak souls descend? The weak souls descend and will the number of those who descend be nine lakhs or would they descend in more numbers? (Someone said – they would descend in larger numbers) They descend in huge numbers. So we get coloured by their company because human beings, the human souls, whether they become deity souls, whether they become demoniac souls, their nature is that – they certainly get coloured by the company.

It is a similar case here in the (path of) knowledge. Although we are residents of the Confluence Age, but even in case of knowledge, we entered the path of knowledge just now, we entered the path of knowledge newly, we entered the path of Advanced Knowledge or whatever may be the case; well, in the beginning, we entered the path of basic knowledge, when we entered in the beginning, we were very joyful. Then, later on, the joy keeps vaporizing slowly. So, satopradhaan, satosaamaanya, rajo and tamo. It appears to you like this. What? It is because now the Gitapathshala is new. So, it appears like that, but in the older Gitapathshalas, is the strength (i.e. number) of those coming to the Gitapathshalas decreasing or is it increasing? Hm? It is decreasing. If there is any such Gitapathshala which is old and where the number has also not decreased, then you can think that they are firm (pakka) in the deity religion. What? Those who are firm, will continue to maintain purity and those who are weak (kachhey), would get coloured by the company and lose their power of purity. The more the purity at a place, the more the unity, i.e. fraternity (sangathan) at that place and the lesser the purity, the more the purity decreases, the greater will be the disintegration of the gathering.

So, all the old Gitapathshalas of the Advanced Knowledge are presently in very bad condition. What? It becomes evident that they are in a degraded (taamsi) stage. There is jealousy (eershya), hatred (dwesh), fighting (ladnaa) and quarelling (jhagadnaa). Why should we go? We see the same Murli on TV at home. It is Baba’s Murli only, which we have to listen. So that gathering disintegrates. So it has been said that the disintegration . This disintegration (bikhraav); the ones, in whose intellect, it has fitted nicely, what? That – whose children are we? We are the children of God. If we are the children of God, if we are the children of one Father, then the family should be united, shouldn’t it? If the united family disintegrates, then the head of the family, the elders, would think that the disintegration of the family is not good.

The gathering should not be allowed to disintegrate under any circumstance and what if someone separates on his own? Suppose there are four Brothers in a family. A fight ensues on the issue of property (milkiyat). The elder Brother takes his share of property and separates. So is he a father-like elder Brother? No. He did not perform his duty of being an elder Brother at all. So similarly, this is also a Godly family. In this Godly family, the more one takes up the responsibility of the family, the more one becomes dedicated (arpanmay) for the family, the more they are the own children (sagey bachhey) of the Father. If the family disintegrates, then a thought emerges in the mind of the responsible (jimmevaar) child that – what would the people say?

(A mataji said – Baba, in such a case, the only thing that emerges is that Baba has said in the Murli that one should not give anything, one should not do anything) Whom should we not give? (Anybody) Does ‘anybody’ mean ‘to lokik’ or ‘to alokik’? (No, to lokik) To lokik? (Yes) You may not give your body, your wealth to the lokik, but at least you can give them good wishes through your intellect (buddhiyog), through your vision (drishti). (But Baba, when they too have become ours….) Have they become ours? Have the lokik people become ours? Talk about the alokik people. It is not a matter about the alokik people at all. They belong to our family only. (If such a thing emerges in our family itself…..) The family, even in that we must check – they have become (members of our family). Which category of Brahmins have they become? Are they Brahmins of the number one category or are they Brahmins of the degraded caste? Are they the ones, who follow the Shrimat completely or do they violate the Shrimat in between? Should we not see that?
...(to be continued)
-----------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.

User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post03 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.531, dated 15.10.06, Vishrampur,

Clarification of Murli dated 16.5.67

No.VCD*.


....There is a Brahmin community; even in that Brahmin community there are nine categories. Are all the categories alike? No. Some Brahmins belong to a very high caste. They think – Arey! We belong to a high caste. We would get defamed. So, similarly, here, we also are Suryavanshi children (belonging to the Sun Dynasty) of the Suryavanshi Father. The Suryavanshi children must check every moment – Is our Sun Dynasty disintegrating? If it is disintegrating then there is definitely some shortcoming (kamee) in us. ‘Our unity is breaking’ means that ‘our purity is reducing.’

So, what should we try to maintain? We must give more and more importance (tawajjah) to remain in soul conscious stage (aatmik sthiti). It is not that – Arey! We would not even touch them. We would not eat anything prepared by their hands. When no such thing is visible to our eyes, which proves that they are becoming impure, then why should we push them away? We must live with them. Eating-drinking (khana-peena), conduct & transactions (aachaar-vyavhaar), everything is taking place, but even then we should not observe them with hatred (nafrat). We must not view them with a vision of hatred; we must behave with them as before, but we must be attentive that – are we in a soul conscious stage? If we are in a soul conscious stage, if we remember the star soul, then even if we observe anyone through our vision, we would not get coloured by the company through vision. Even if we touch, if the soul conscious stage is strong, then the sins that accrue on account of touching, the power of a soul that decreases due to the touch, that decrease in power would not take place.

For example, there is a battery, a small battery. There is a big battery. The big battery is full and the small battery is empty. The small battery is empty and if the wires of both the batteries are connected with each other, then the current from the larger battery flows to the smaller battery. But if the wire gets cut in between, then it is a matter of the connection of the intellect. If the connection of our intellect is with the Father, then nobody can reduce our power. If it happens that – the more we come in connection through the vision, through hands and legs, through wealth, through contacts and relatives, then the power would certainly reduce; so, we must observe ‘one’ that – when ‘one’ Father comes in this world, He comes in contact (sansarg-sampark) with everyone. Does His power reduce? It does not reduce. It does not reduce, isn’t it? (Someone said –No).

OK, so which Father is it? Is it the above one (ooparvala) or the below one (neecheyrvala)? Hm? One is the unlimited Father, the Father of the souls, the above one and one is the unlimited Father, the Father of the human beings, the below one. So the below one, we know that – he gets coloured by the colour of the company, but the above one does not get coloured by the company. So whom should we follow? (Everyone said – the above one) Yes.

We should pay attention that – are we continuously in a soul conscious stage? If we are continuosly in a soul conscious stage, then we would not lose anything, but we know that we do not remain in a soul conscious stage continuosly. We get coloured by the company every moment. We possess the sanskars since many births that we experience downfall under the influence of company. So then, the Father, who is the below one, the Father of the human world, in whom the above one has come, we must not follow him. What? If we follow him, then Shiv, who is present in him in a permanent form (mukarrar roop), and what about us? He is not present in us in a permanent form. So who stands to lose? We stand to lose. That is why, we must come in contact in such a way that the snake dies and the stick also does not break. We must adopt the tactic that the intellect that we possess should remain with the Father; this is not something observable; but we should keep extending help to them (i.e. others) for name sake through the outer things. If we become helpful to others for name sake; and if we remain Father’s children from inside, then the Father would remain satisfied with us.

If we remain one Father’s children, if we keep dedicating our belief and faith (shraddha-vishwaas) to one Father, then the Father would remain helpful to us. If we become helpful to many through our intellect, then Father would (someone said -not remain) helpful to us; Father does not want anything. What does He want? He does not want wealth also. Whether you have wealth or not, it does not matter. Do not give. He does not want body also. What does He want? You give your mind and intellect to Me. Manmanaabhav (Merge your mind in mine). What? The thoughts in your mind should emerge in the same way as the thoughts in my mind. It means that you merge your thoughts in my thoughts. Become mine through mind and intellect. So when the mind and intellect becomes dedicated to God, then what would be the result? There would not be any desire to give company to that world at all. We would become dedicated (arpan) for Godly service for 24 hours very easily.

When the eight deities (ashta dev) can become eight deities, when they can become ‘nashtomoha smritilabdha’ (detached and always in remembrance), then can’t we become? If they can become 100 percent, then why can’t we become 99 percent? OK, whatever happened till now, has passed. Our eyes have opened now, haven’t they? Hm? (Someone said – Yes) So, whenever the eyes open, it is dawn (savera) for us. When the eyes are closed, it is darkness (andhera). Who rules in the darkness? There is a kingdom of Ravan (in darkness) and there is a kingdom of Sun in light. So now we are getting sustenance in the company of Sun. We have realized that we have found the Gyaan Soorya (Sun of Knowledge) Father.

Whatever step we take every moment, in that step, we must check – is the step that we have taken, in accordance with Shrimat? Did we follow the Shrimat of Father? There should not be a doubt that – whether the Father would approve this step or not? Whenever we perform any task we take steps, don’t we? Don’t we take steps? (Someone said – we do take steps) Hm. The feet are moving towards one side, and here is a brothel.

(Take for example) a Kumar’s life. The desires, one desire of a Kumar (an unmarried man) and 9900 desires of householders. His one desire becomes strong (prabal) and the 9999 worries of a householder; that side of the balances rises high. So the desire (kaamnaa) of the Kumars, that desire of sex-lust is very strong. The desire that is filled in ones mind so much; he can at least check that desire within his mind that I have this shortcoming. Then the Father has also given a very big boon (vardaan) for overcoming that defect. What is the boon that He has given? That boon has not been granted to the Adhar Kumars (married men); that boon has not been granted to Kumaris (virgins); that boon has not been granted to the Adharkumaris (married women) also. That boon has been given to the Kumars. What? Kumars can do whatever they want. What? If they wish they can even destroy the whole world. They would not suffer any harm. They can make such fast efforts; and if they want to build they can even build. The Kumars possess that power.

So the step that the intellect is taking, we are observing that the steps, the intellect-like feet (buddhi-roopi paanv) are repeatedly going towards the house of a prostitute (veshyaa). She repeatedly attracts us and on the other side there is a true Brahmakumari. What does a true Brahmakumari mean? One, whose intellect is directed towards the Father only. She never attracts any Kumar towards herself. So does the meeting (‘mel’ pronounced like the English word ‘male’) take place from both sides or from one side? Are both hands used for clapping (taali) or only one side is used for clapping? Clapping takes place with both hands. So should we move our steps towards the Kumari, who is greater than 100 Brahmins; should we desire to be in her company or should our intellect be directed towards the company of the one who attracts our intellect? We should verify. If we are not able to understand with our intellect, then we should verify from the Father. In whose company should we get coloured? (Someone said – Father’s company) So the Father would give a Shrimat that if you follow this path, you would rise high, if you follow this path you would suffer downfall. So we should obtain Shrimat from the Father at every step. Or we should check within our mind – is the step that I am taking, in accordance with the Shrimat? Is it fitting firmly in our intellect that this step is in accordance with the Shrimat? There is no shortcoming in this step at all. Then we should proceed. So, it cannot be possible that those who follow Shrimat at every step, those who surrender their intellect to the Father and then proceed would get defeated. What? Who is going to gain victory in the end? Truth is going to win and we are proceeding on the basis of the true Father; so, there is no question of defeat at all. Omshanti.
(Concluded)
---------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.

User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post06 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.543, Audio Cassette No.1029, dated 29.10.06, Tadepalligudem,

Clarification of Murli dated 19.05.67

(Only for Brahmakumar/Kumaris)

Ref. No.VCD*.,


The morning class dated 19.05.67 was going on. In the middle of the first page the matter being narrated was – You children are the only ones in the world to be taught by God Father. So you are happy (khushchaap). The Father reminds you and even explains that – now everyone has to die. Some have to die a physical death and some would make efforts and die while being alive. Those who would die while being alive, would make their lives pleasant (khushchaap). Now make your life diamond-like through the journey of remembrance. The diamond-like life exists only in the Confluence Age and not in any other age. In the first birth of of the Golden Age it is gold-like and in the Silver Age it is silver-like. So, now you can make your life diamond-like. It is a very profitable business. Godly student life is a source of income. It is not just for one birth, but for many births.

Children know that – we are becoming swargwasi (residents of heaven) and the masters of the world. So, keep checking yourself that – what are we doing? Do we become lazy? because delay is dangerous. The Father had explained earlier also – look, you had been given so much wealth. Now look! there is nothing in your hands. What is left in your hands in the end? The life has become like a cowrie. The intellect remembers cowries only. Now the Father has come to make your life like a diamond once again. The Father has come again to give. You also know that in every Kalpa we come and sit in front of the Father in the same way. Except us no soul of any other religion comes and sits in front (of the Father). There is not even the slightest name or trace of Bhakti in this matter.

One should not talk to anyone too much. One should not talk (too much) even amongst yourselves. Baba teaches us. Look, it becomes so easy. Baba says that – remember me and obtain the inheritance. This is the only knowledge which causes true salvation (sadgati). Whatever the remaining people narrate has been causing degradation. The giver of knowledge (gyaandaataa) is one ocean of knowledge, i.e. the Father alone. Rest of the human beings are bestowers of degradation; that is why the Father had got a slogan prepared, which should be displayed in every home. Shrimat (Godly direction) causes sadgati (true salvation) and the opinions of the human beings cause degradation (durgati). Bhakti has been causing degradation. Bhakti comes from Ravan. Ravan has many mouths. He narrates many kinds of versions through numerous mouths and the Father possesses only one mouth. Ramleela (Ramayana) is enacted. Ram has been depicted with one head and Ravan has been depicted with ten heads. They do not understand any meaning. This knowledge of Ravan causes your degradation. Even now degradation can be caused if one continues to follow the versions of many. If one follows the direction of 'one' after realizing the highest on high one Father, then it would lead to nothing but true salvation. One would become instrumental in causing the sadgati of the soul also and the sadgati of the body also, and the sadgati of the accomplices and companions also. As regards Bhakti, it causes degradation; that is why it is said – jeevanmukti (true salvation) in a second. Children are explained a lot that – go to the devotees of Shiv. Tell them – what is it that you are doing? The one whom you are worshipping, that ShivBaba is teaching us. He had taught earlier also. He had definitely done something and then departed, that is why the entire world remembers that incorporeal one. You too sit and remember. Now that Father is teaching us. You too come and study. Baba says – remember me alone (maamekam). Then your sins would get burnt. Maamekam means – my form is only one. That form is the permanent Chariot in which I come. I am not omnipresent (sarvavyaapi). I come as an ekvyaapi (present in one). It is even said – When the God is one, God’s child is also said to be one.

When the kings used to exist, the eldest son, the first child of those kings used to be entitled to the kingdom.. Father Shiv has also come in this world. The one who proves to be senior in knowledge is senior. The Father comes with a property of knowledge. Those who imbibe it, become numberwise children. The one who first of all made inculcations to become equal to the Father, to remember 'one' Father is made equal by the Father. He gets the title – Shiv Shankar Bhloleynath.

The name of Shankar alone is suffixed to Shiv. No other deity’s name is suffixed. Among the three personalities, Shiv’s name is not prefixed to Vishnu. Shiv’s name is not prefixed to Brahma. So, Shiv and Shankar have been mixed-up and made one. The devotees do not understand that Shiv is a separate soul and Shankar is a separate soul. They mix them up, but they do not understand that - what is the reason for the mix-up? Shankar is shown to be sitting in remembrance. Someone remembers someone only if something is to be achieved from him/her. He certainly remembers someone. Shankar is said to be the highest one among the deities. Dev-Dev-Mahaadev. Brahma Dev (deity), Vishnu Dev, even among them the highest deity is Mahadev. He is not God, but through the remembrance of God they achieve the post of God-Goddess. That is why it is said that – as the person/thing that we remember, so shall we become. The Father also says – now you remember me alone. Do not remember any one else. If you remain in my unadulterated remembrance (avyabhichaari Yaad), then you would become incorporeal, viceless, egoless like me.

I remain in an incorporeal stage, am I not? When I am in my abode (dhaam), I am already incorporeal. You souls also remain in an incorporeal stage there. But the difference between me and you is that – even when I come in the corporeal world, I remain in an incorporeal stage. Even if I remain in anybody’s company, I would remain incorporeal. I remain free from vicious thoughts (nirvikalp) and when you get coloured by company you create good or bad thoughts (sankalp-vikalp). You create your own world through thoughts.

So, I show the way. The sins committed in the past births are rotating in the reel of the Confluence Age. When the accounts of the wicked acts comes in the reel, then your stage starts deteriorating. When the reel of noble acts rotates, then your stage starts becoming good automatically. So, when the stage starts deteriorating, then remain especially in my remembrance at that time. Then the reel of wicked thoughts would get destroyed. I am incorporeal, viceless; so, by remaining in my remembrance, the vicious thoughts would not be able to stay. They would get destroyed. And if you remember any human being, then it is not at all possible that your sins would get destroyed
...(contd.)
------------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post07 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.543, Audio Cassette No.1029, dated 29.10.06, Tadepalligudem,

Clarification of Murli dated 19.05.67

(Only for Brahmakumar/Kumaris)

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... I am called ‘Sadaa Shiv’ (forever Shiv/benefactor). ‘Sadaa’ means that even when I am a resident of Paramdham (the Supreme Abode), I am ‘Shiv’. Even when I am in this corporeal world, I am ‘Shiv’. Even when I come in the company of you children, I am Shiv, i.e. benefactor. Whatever words I speak, prove to be beneficial only. Whatever thoughts I create, prove to be true thoughts only. Whatever action I perform through the bodily organs is a true action. It cannot be a wasteful action. So, there is a lot of difference between the actions performed by me and you soul-like children. I am forever viceless (nirvikaari). You cannot remain viceless forever. You attain the viceless stage numberwise as per your efforts for a short period through the power of my remembrance. That too, one would be able to attain that stage only to the extent one has made efforts. If one has made efforts for a long period, then as the thoughts at the end, so shall be one's fate (ant matey so gatey). If one has not made long-term efforts, if the remembrance of the bodily beings is mixed (with the remembrance of the Father) since a long time, if one would not have remembered me in an unadulterated way, then even in the end the rememberance would be adulterated and the post would get degraded. That is why now I give an advice, I caution that - remember me alone. Then your sins would get destroyed. You soul would become pure. The more the soul becomes pure, the earlier it would come in the pure abode. If the soul becomes pure to the level of 15.75 celestial degrees, then one would have to come in the second birth of the Golden Age. So the 1/4th celestial degree weakness would show its colour (effect) in the Copper Age. One would get converted to other religions, because the shortcoming has remained in the soul.

An example has been given that – the more one remembers, the more the soul would become pure. These are very easy words. Everyone would like them in future. Remember me alone (maamekam Yaad karo). What would be liked? Remember me alone. Do not remember anyone else. And it is very easy for the old women. The Father says – can’t you remember one word? It is a wonderful matter. You can remember your husband and what is the crime that this Father has committed that you cannot remember him? What is the crime that he has committed? What would you say?

It is not that all the aged women cannot remember. There are some such (old ladies) also that they can remember a lot. So, why this difference? Some have come in the company of the permanent Chariot to a lesser extent in the 63 births and some have come in his company more. Some have not come in his company at all, or for name sake. So, they would remember him for name sake. Where does the shooting for those 63 births take place? Where does the rehearsal take place? The rehearsal is taking place in the Confluence Age now. Now you can fill your soul with as much power as you wish. The intellect is in an unlocked condition. If you become careless, if you become lazy, then you would cause loss to yourself only. It is contained in your intellect that – we are becoming swargwasi (inhabitants of heaven) on Shrimat (Godly directions), isn’t it? No Guru has given us the righteous direction that – how can one become swargwaasi? We have been studying knowledge from Gurus for 2500 years. Did anyone make us Swargwaasi? We continued to become even more narkwaasi (inhabitants of hell).

Now the Father says – I have shown you the path to become swargwaasi. One becomes swargwaasi by remaining in swasthiti (soul consciousness). Nobody else possesses this knowledge of swasthiti (soul consciousness). I come and tell you – what you are? What is meant by ‘swa’(self or one’s own)? ‘Swa’ is not body, swa is a soul. This body will get destroyed here itself. The soul takes the next birth along with the sanskars of this birth and the past births. So, the more you remain in swasthiti, the more you remain in the remembrance of the point of light soul, I, the Supreme Soul Father am not far from soul consciousness. That is why it has been said in the path of worship (Bhaktimarg) – a soul itself is the Supreme Soul. As for the rest, it is not that – a soul itself is the Supreme Soul. Then 500-700 crore souls would become the form of Supreme Soul. Yes, it is true that – all the souls, which make efforts;, the soul which is number one among those effort-making souls, that soul becomes equal to the Supreme Soul for some time. The Father and the child become equal in powers. So, it is said – a soul itself is the Supreme Soul. It is even said that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiv speaks. ‘The Supreme Father’ is uttered first and ‘the Supreme Soul’ is uttered after that. Just like Shiv-Shankar. Shiv is uttered first, Shankar is uttered after that. The Father is placed first. The child is named later. This is an ‘and sons’ company. Its foundation is laid now. Even then you children forget these matters.

The children have been explained that –a soul experiences pleasures and pains only when it assumes a body. Until a soul does not assume a body, it can neither experience pleasure nor pain. The rebirth does take place. Hindus believe in rebirth. Christians and Muslims, and people belonging to other religions do not believe in rebirth. What is the reason? Where is the foundation for this matter laid (Someone said – in the Confluence Age) How? How is the foundation laid in the Confluence Age? The souls that get converted to Christianity cannot imbibe soul consciousness firmly. They are unable to believe completely due to body consciousness that we are points of light souls. That is why, because of the foundation not being strong the remembrance is also not strong and you are the souls taking 84 births; that is why you develop the firm faith that – we are points of light soul and you leave this body easily. There does not remain any attachment on the body. So this foundation is being laid now – does a soul take one birth or many births? I, the soul, which takes many births, play an allround part.

You remain in the Supreme Abode (Paramdham) for a very short period. For the rest of the time you play an allround part on this stage-like world (srishti rangmanch), while passing through The Cycle of birth and death, that is why you develop the firm faith that – the soul takes rebirth. Children must fix time for remembrance. One must also imbibe divine virtues and become very sweet. Now it is not the time to fight with anyone. If one keeps wasting time on wasteful matters, then one would cause a great loss to oneself. One would have to repent a lot in the end. Now the time of Confluence Age is a time to tolerate. The more one tolerates, the more one would reap benefits.
...(to be continued)
--------------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post08 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.543, Audio Cassette No.1029, dated 29.10.06, Tadepalligudem,

Clarification of Murli dated 19.05.67

(Only for Brahmakumar/Kumaris)

Ref. No.VCD*.
,


....It has even been written (about deities) that – perfect in 16 celestial degrees, completely viceless. So, why should one allow the vices to enter? One should become so sweet. Becoming sweet – this is also a virtue, isn’t it? If someone throws angry glances at you, you shower flowers. He would also become happy that – Arey! There is no effect on him at all. So, do not perform any opposite actions. Even if you perform any such opposite action by mistake, you should catch your ears (in repentance). Then you would remain cautious.

In the path of worship old women must be remembering Krishna, but here it is said – No. One must not remember Krishna. Whom should we rememeber? One should remember the Father. Why do the old women, mothers remember Krishna more? It is because in the world of Brahmins also there are many such mothers, who have considered Krishna alone to be God. They are Yagya mothers, aren’t they? They are taking care of the Yagya since the beginning, aren’t they? There are old mothers; they would remember Krishna alone. You remember the Father.

You know that Krishna is not the God of Gita. Call him Krishna, call him Brahma, it is one and the same. Had Krishna been the corporeal God of Gita, then Gita should cause sadgati (true salvation). Nobody has achieved sadgati by reading Gita. Why was sadgati not caused? It is because sadgati takes place through knowledge. Knowledge comes from the incorporeal, through the one who is in an incorporeal stage. The one who is himself in a corporeal stage, the one who is himself is in body consciousness, cannot give knowledge, cannot give information to others. He cannot tell the truth. One Sadguru alone is called incorporeal. That incorporeal Sadguru comes and tells the truth.

He establishes the Golden Age (Satyug) by narrating truth. He is always incorporeal. We make efforts and assume numberwise incorporeal stage for some time. Suppose, the permanent Chariot in which He enters - does he also remain in an incorporeal stage forever? At the most for how much time can he remain incorporeal? He can assume incorporeal stage until it is Confluence Age. When the Golden Age begins, and when the experience of pleasures through bodily organs begins, and when they experience pleasures through the bodily organs, then the power of the soul starts decreasing. Although they experience pleasures through the sense organs, the power gets reduced. From the Copper Age, the souls experience pleasures through bodily organs; so the power gets reduced to a greater extent. In the Golden Age, the celestial degrees get reduced because of acting through the sense organs. The celestial degrees do not decrease much. In the entire 1250 years 2 celestial degrees get reduced. In the Silver Age 6 celestial degrees get reduced because the deities start descending from the sense organs slowly and the downfall becomes fast in the Copper Age because the power starts decreasing through the bodily organs. They become devoid of celestial degrees (kalaaheen) in the Iron Age. Body consciousness permeates into them from their heels to the crown of their heads (choti)
....(to be continued)
-----------------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post09 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.543, Audio Cassette No.1029, dated 29.10.06, Tadepalligudem,

Clarification of Murli dated 19.05.67

(Only for Brahmakumar/Kumaris)

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... Now the Father says – I a soul, am also incorporeal, the one who assumes an incorporeal stage. You too become incorporeal. If you remain in an incorporeal point of light stage, then you would become viceless (nirvikaari) by remaining free of vicious thoughts (nirvikalp). If you become viceless, you would become egoless (nirahankaari). The ego of the body would end. The thoughts of bodily organs would also be forgotten.

I narrate such good matters for inculcation; then why does the remembrance not remain constant? If one has to achieve the highest on high post, then one would also have to imbibe these matters. Only those souls would be able to achieve the highest on high post, who remember the highest on high. There are other religious fathers also; are those religious fathers numberwise or are they at the same height of greatness? (Someone said – they are numberwise) They are numberwise. Why are they numberwise? Why do they achieve numberwise stage? It is because those religious fathers also achieve the incorporeal stage in this world through God Father only. Some become incorporeal early and some become incorporeal later. Sanathkumar, through whom the Sanathan Dharma gets established becomes incorporeal first. He is called ‘Yogeshwar’; that is why he is famous as the Father of the entire world, the human world. The seed of the human world tree contains the power of the entire tree. The other religious fathers, understand later on. Then they assume an incorporeal stage later on. So, even the power acquired by the soul is less. Because they are unable to imbibe the incorporeal stage completely, the shortcoming is passed on to their followers also.

You children are the stars of the sky. A world is contained in every star. There is no world in those non-living stars. World is merged in you living stars because you are the ancestors (poorvaj) of the entire world. There are not hundreds, but thousands, lakhs and crores of followers of every star. So, it is one’s own world, isn’t it? So the Father says – one must achieve the highest on high post. If one follows the highest on high, then one would achieve the highest on high post. Some then follow the third class. Even after recognizing the Father, even after making a promise (anjaam), even after giving in writing with blood, even after writing on Court Stamp Paper, they start following the religious fathers of the third class religions. So, will they acquire power or will they lose power? The power gets destroyed. When they get converted here itself, so they get converted in the broad drama also. Here they dupe India (Bhaarat), so there also they dupe India. They get converted to other religions.

Now you have to achieve a high post. So, whom should you follow? The religious fathers are numberwise. Who is the highest on high? ShivBaba would be said to be the highest on high. Father Shiv would not be said to be highest on high. Father Shiv means the Father of the point-like souls. That is a matter of the Paramdham-like stage. There is no question of high and low in the Supreme Abode. The difference of high and low is in this corporeal world. So, the highest on high is the Father of the human world. That is why it has been said in a Murli earlier also – ‘Next to God is Shankar. Next to God is Prajapita. Next to God is Krishna.’ Which Krishna? (Many replied – Confluence-Aged Krishna) Confluence-Aged Krishna. Confluence-Aged Krishna?

Whom do the so-called Brahmins describe as the God of Gita? Don’t they describe Krishna as the God of Gita? Do they not describe Krishna alias Brahma to be the God of Gita? Whom do those so-called Brahmins describe as the corporeal God of Gita? Dada Lekhraj alias Krishna’s soul is described (as the God of Gita), isn’t he? So, is he not present in the Confluence Age? His form in the Confluence Age is of Dada Lekhraj. In the form of Krishna, he would take birth as a child in the Golden Age. Even here he plays a part with a child-like intellect. Although he is in the form of an old Brahmin. Even then what kind of a part does he play? In the form of a child-like intellect, that is why child Krishna cannot be the God of Gita.

Then? Who is God of Gita, for whom it has been said next to God is Krishna? Which Krishna? Krishna of the Confluence-Aged Golden Age (Sangamyugi swarnimyug). Next to God is Shankar. Next to God is Prajapita. Next to God is Narayan. Four-four personalities have been decribed as next to Shiv. So, will four souls be next to God or will one be next to God? Why have four names been mentioned? It is because the four names belong to the same personality. Narayan is the name of the last goal. Until the task of destruction is not over the name is Shankar. The name Krishna is before becoming Narayan, when the clash with Kansa takes place. It is the praise of the Confleunce-aged Krishna in the scriptures that – Kansa is standing in front of Krishna. Kansas, Jarasindhis, Shishupals were jealous of Krishna. These are matters of the Confluence Age. It is not a matter about the form of Dada Lekhaj. When the same soul of Dada Lekhraj enters (into Shankar) in the form of half moon, then it is known as the dark Krishna. And when it becomes complete, then it is called Narayan. That Narayan is called as pefect in 16 celestial degrees in the Confluence Age and in the beginning of the Golden Age.

There are other Narayans also, who take birth in the Golden Age only, but they have not been praised and worshipped in the scriptures. There are no temples dedicated to them Their idols are not worshipped. Why are they not worshipped? Are they not pure? Will the second, third, fourth Lakshmi-Narayan of the Golden Age not become pure? Will they not? They would become pure; then, why are they not worshipped? (Someone said something) Yes, because they could not make such efforts in the Confluence-age to become worshipworthy. That is why the praises, the worship and memorials, festivals, etc pertain to the Confluence-Aged Golden Age and not to the Golden Age. That is an age of decreasing celestial degrees and the Confluence Age is an age of increasing celestial degrees. The God Father comes in the Confluence Age. God is not present in Golden Age. That is why Confluence Age is praised. Omshanti.
(Concluded)
------------------------------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post11 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.553, Audio Cassette No.1039, dated 13.11.06, Calcutta

Clarification of Murli dated 31.05.67

Ref. No.VCD*.
,


Today's morning class is dated 31.05.67. The record (song) played is - Jaag sajaniya jaag (Wake up, O beloved, wake up) Sweet spiritual children have heard the song and the swadarshan chakra (The Cycle of 84 births or the beginning, middle and end of the world cycle) revolved in the intellect. The Father is also called swadarshan chakradhari because knowing the beginning, middle and end of the world itself is becoming swadarshan chakradhari. Nobody except the Father can explain these matters. For you children everything is based on silence. All the human beings even say - "Shantideva (deity of peace), O giver of peace! and nobody even knows that - who bestows peace and who would take us to the abode of peace (shaantidhaam)? This is known only to you and not known to anyone else.

The children also know that - we become swadarshan chakradhari and Baba alone makes us swadarshan chakradhari. Earlier our intellect did not used to work at all. Now the intellect is working towards the realization of the soul. No deity can be called swadarshan chakradhari. You Brahmin children are swadarshan chakradhari. The intellect of deities does not work and your intellect works. You are the intelligent (buddhimaan) children of intelligent Father. Only those, whose intellect works, become the beads of Rudramala. If the intellect does not work, then one can neither realize his/her own part nor can the realization of the accomplices and companions, relatives of the 84 births can take place. So, there is such a huge difference between those deities and you Brahmins. From whom would the deities of the Golden Age obtain inheritance and from whom do you obtain the inheritance? You obtain the inheritance from the Father. Deities obtain the inheritance from their lokik Father. There is a world of difference between your inheritance and their inheritance. You reform the world through vibrations. The vibration of intellect itself changes. They (i.e. the deities) do not reform the world through vibrations.

Out of the two, i.e. vision (drishti) and vibrations (vritti), which one is subtle? The vibrations are more subtle and the connection of vision is with a sense organ (gyaanendriy). It is the best supreme organ among the sense organs, but when compared to vibrations it is not subtle. You transform the entire world through your vibrations. The five elements of the nature also become pure (satwic). The five elements are non-living. Is it hard to change the senselessness (jadatwa) or is it difficult to change the living souls? (Someone said - to change the living souls). Is it difficult to change the living souls? The living souls can understand any matter in depth and the five non-living elements are inert; the intellect is also non-living. Take for example a stone; every atom of the stone also keeps moving, but it is non-living. The transformation of the entire world takes place. The living souls also get transformed numberwise, but until the five elements of the non-living nature do not get transformed, the transformation of the entire world cannot take place. So the transformation of the entire world takes place on the basis of vibrations. The human souls change on the basis of vision.

The vibration (vritti) of each soul is different. The vibrations of one do not match with the vibrations of another one. The vibrations of each one is different. The Father comes to end this difference; so, which path does He show to make the vibrations and vision of everybody one. Manmanaabhav. Focus your mind on me. Remember me alone. Do not remember any second person. Then your vision and your vibrations, your thoughts would merge in the thoughts of the Father. Whatever is the thought of the Father becomes the thought of the child. You say - what is this Bhakti? The Father explains to you children that – every one of you have to become swadarshanchakradhari numberwise as per efforts. So, one would understand the secrets of Bhakti as well as the secrets of knowledge.

One must remember the Father, one must remember the swadarshan chakra - this is the main issue. Remembering the Father means obtaining the inheritance of peace. If one does not remember, then one keeps becoming peaceless (ashaant or disturbed). Everything is included in peace. Your age also increases. If you remain disturbed, then the age keeps decreasing. If you remain peaceful, then the age keeps increasing. Why does the age increase by remaining peaceful? Why do the vibrations of peacelessness decrease the age? There is just peace in the abode of peace. Who is the presiding deity (adhishthata) of the abode of peace (shaantidhaam)? Who is the presiding deity of the abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam)? Who is the presiding deity of the abode of sorrows (dukhdhaam)? Three presiding deities have been depicted in the three abodes. Three chiefs are instruments. The presiding deity of the abode of peace is called – Shantideva (the deity of peace). When peacelessness becomes too much, then the entire world gets peace through the deity of peace. When does peacelessness become too much? It is when all the atom bombs explode simultaneously in the last phase of the Iron Age. The entire world gets destroyed within 5-7 days. Peacelessness would increase so much in the world (at that time) and who causes this peacelessness to become too much? Someone must be becoming instrument, who takes the peacelessness beyond limit? Ordinary souls cannot take it beyond limit.

It has been written in Gita. In the Gita of human beings also it has been mentioned that - even if the one who is in a soul conscious stage (swasthiti) kills the entire world, he would not accrue any sin. Such stability (of soul consciousness) is required. Even in the stories an example is given - a man was carrying a goat through a jungle. He met a thug (cheat) on the way; he said - this is not a goat. Why have you loaded a piglet on your shoulders? He did not believe. He moved a little ahead. He met another thug. He also repeated the same thing. He scolded him also saying that - Ain! This is a goatling (bakri ka bachha), this is not a piglet. He moved a little further; he met third thug. He also said the same thing. He got influenced. His firmness (dridhataa) was shaken. He became disturbed. He threw the goatling. Certainly my intellect has got hallucinated. This is called – ‘being influenced.’ The souls with stable intellect decide themselves - what is right, what is wrong. They do not accept what others say. They do not decide without understanding every bit and the depth of every matter
....(to be contd.)
------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post12 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.553, Audio Cassette No.1039, dated 13.11.06, Calcutta

Clarification of Murli dated 31.05.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... So, who would be able to remain peaceful? If someone abused a little, defamed, taunted and the intellect becomes disturbed (vichlit). The intellect becomes influenced, one gets deviated from the path. One would start making efforts to deviate others also (from the path). For example, it happens in today's world; souls get influenced by the public slander (lok-laaj). One gets influenced by the public slander (lok-laaj) which is going to perish. One becomes influenced oneself and influences the accomplices, companions, neighbours also and one gets deviated from the true path. Getting influenced is not an indication of a powerful soul. The powerful souls would never accept just by being told by anyone. Even if the entire world comes on one side or if they prove him to be a thief, a dacoit, if they are humiliated, if they are defamed, they are not going to shake.

This Godly knowledge has been going on since 70 years. Initially, basic knowledge emerged in the form of Brahma’s Vani (versions). Just as small children learn knowledge by heart, learn things by heart, similarly, The Knowledge was learnt by heart. The depth was not understood. Even then it is a foundation of the basic knowledge. That is a knowledge of listening and narrating. It was not a knowledge of understanding and explaining. The third eye opens later on. The Knowledge that emerged from the mouth of Brahma, assumes the form of nectar (Amrit). By drinking that juice of nectar everybody’s intellect becomes dynamic (chalaaymaan). The intellects of all those who go into the depth starts opening up, but even then they become anishchaybuddhi (i.e. lose faith).

In spite of The Knowledge attaining such a vastness (vistaar), Maya keeps defeating. Maya Ravan is full of Bhakti, blindfaith (andhshraddha) and Maya-Ravan shakes the knowledgeful children. The intelligent children of intelligent Father waver and it is not just one or two who waver, but all the living stars of the Earth, which are like the stars in the sky waver. So, is there more power in Bhakti or is there more power in knowledge? In the path of worship it is said – there is great power in Bhakti and Baba says in the Murli that – Bhakti is a matter of blindfaith. Bhakti leads to downfall. Bhakti comes from many directions (opinions), i.e. it comes from Ravan, and knowledge comes from one. One is truth and the entire world is untruth. This is a war between truth and untruth. In that war, the bhakti-like untruth shakes everyone. Only one does not shake; he is called – the Pole Star (dhruv tara). Everyone revolves around that star. He does not revolve around anyone. This is called the firmness (dridhataa) of intellect.

The more deeply one has grasped The Knowledge, the more firmness one would be able to imbibe. It has been said in the beginning of the Yagya also– the entire world was on one side and the Father was on the other side. Whatever happened in the beginning, happens in the end also. Big religious fathers came, great souls came; great kings existed in this world in the history. Nobody was able to break the traditions of old world. Anarchy (araajaktaa) went on increasing. Indiscipline (anushaasanheenataa) went on increasing. On the one side in the beginning of the Golden Age the family system was very strong and on the other side today, in the era of Iron Age, all the members of every house keep clashing with each other through the vibrations of the intellect. So, will there be any power left in the vibrations? The power ends due to clash.

So many religious communities are prevalent in the world. People of every religion knows that – there are loopholes in some parts of our religion; there is blindfaith in some parts, what are the bad traditions, dirty customs & rituals, but nobody has the power to face them and to destroy them.

Ultimately, in the end Shantideva Father alone comes, who is forever a resident of the abode of peace. He is called SadaaShiv. And He lives in such a stable stage of peace that – the entire world shakes, all the traditions, customs and rituals of the entire world disintegrate. The temples disintegrate, mosques disintegrate, Gurudwaras disintegrate, Churches disintegrate. Neither the temples would survive, nor the Churches would survive, nor the Gurudwaras would survive. All would disintegrate. What would remain? Only one big temple would survive, which is called Shantidham, Paramdham in corporeal form. The ‘Satdhaam’ (abode of truth) established by the true Father. What is the name of the Saltlake building also? Satdhaam. So, when would that name materialize? When firmness is imbibed.

Every version (vakya or sentences) of the Father is a line drawn on a stone (i.e. unchangeable). Just as the line drawn on a stone is indelible, similarly the versions of the Father, whether they have emerged in the form of Murli through the mouth of Brahma and whether it is the versions that emerge in the form of teacher when the Father assumes the form of a teacher or whether it is the sentences that appear in the Avyakt Vanis of the dharanaamayi mother (one who inculcates virtues) in the form of Earth, all those versions are cogent. In the path of worship it is said – Brahma vakyam janaardanam. The versions of Brahma cannot be wiped out by anyone. The world would get wiped out. The versions of Brahma would remain constant at their place.

The Knowledge has attained such an expanse and what is the essence that emerges? When it expands, it expands to such an extent that it cannot be bound within the books. Those matters of Bhakti are bound in books. The teachers of The Knowledge of Bhakti teach after reading the bookish knowledge. And The Knowledge that the Father teaches cannot be bound within books; The Knowledge is so vast. It is famous that – if the entire (wood of) jungle is converted into pens, and if the ocean is made as ink and if one starts writing, the ink would exhaust, the pens would exhaust, and The Knowledge would never end.
....(to be contd.)
------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
User avatar

arjun

PBK

  • Posts: 3588
  • Joined: 01 May 2006
  • Location: India

Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post13 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.553, Audio Cassette No.1039, dated 13.11.06, Calcutta

Clarification of Murli dated 31.05.67

Ref. No.VCD*.
,


....Then what is the essence (saar) of knowledge that remains in the Golden Age? There is no knowledge in the intellect of the deities. What is the essence that remains? The point of light soul. That point is a seed and the entire world is – an expanse (vistaar). Bhakti is expanse and knowledge is essence. The Father tells the essence also and the souls that churn take (the souls) into expanse also. The Knowledge reaches such vastness that - the entire story of 84 births of every soul is contained in it. There are 500-700 crore human souls and when the story of (upto) 84 births of everyone comes out in detail then The Knowledge attains such vastness. We know that – every soul does not take 84 births. Many souls are such that they are in large numbers; they take only one birth, even then there is so much detail (vistaar) of their life. It becomes a history. Putting that into essence and then going into the elaboration (vistaar). One must make such practice that one could come into the essence in a second and go into the details in a second. The more one becomes constant in the essence, the more one would become constant in the expanse. If he becomes constant in the essence in a second, then he would also go into the expanse in a second. The intellect should be so dynamic. That is why it has been said that – the Supreme Abode (Paramdham) is not situated above. Paramdham is not situated below. It is the numberwise purview (paridhi) of the souls. The more powerful a soul, the more number of souls it encompasses in its purview.

Supreme Soul is the most subtle. Human souls are also numberwise subtle; but that Supreme Soul encompasses the entire human creation within His purview (paridhi). He binds the souls of the human beings with his vibrations. We experience that – when we come in contact with any such soul possessing a broad intellect, then the intellect of the person who comes in front of him does not work at all. It is as if the intellect becomes merged. For example the opponents of Nehru used to oppose a lot behind his back, and when Nehruji used to come in front of them and deliver a speech, then all their opposition (virodhabhaas) used to vanish. It is the wonder of the intellect, it is the wonder of the concentration (ekaagrataa) of the intellect. Now the Father is teaching us this concentration. The concentration should not be inert that we have to remember the non-living point or that we have to concentrate the intellect on the point of light that is visible in the plastic casket. No! This is an inert remembrance.

If the soul does not assume a body, then it is as if a non-living thing. The Supreme Soul also comes in this world and performs all the tasks by assuming a body. Then He says – Children, Manmanaabhav, i.e. merge your thoughts into mine. Remember me, the Father alone. It does not mean – remember me, the point (bindi). How would one know whether this point is Supreme Soul’s point and this point is Prajapita’s point and this point is that of other souls. This can be known only when He enters into a corporeal being, performs actions and then departs. He departs after performing such acts which nobody else in the world is able to perform. That is why the Father says – my part is the biggest. Nobody plays as much part as I play. That is why my ling is made very big. The Saligrams are made small. The glory (mahima) has been depicted.

The greatness (badappan) has been depicted. Supreme Father performs such tasks which could not be performed by the religious fathers. Whichever religious Father came, whichever preceptor came, whichever religious soul came, whichever political leader came, everyone boasted about himself and departed. The world continued to experience downfall. Causing transformation is not within the capability of anybody’s intellect. But when that Supreme Father Supreme Soul comes in this world, then He does not just boast about Himself through the body of Brahma and departs. He transforms the entire world and then departs. He brings about such transformation which could not be brought about by any religious Father. Nobody is able to transform the hell into heaven. That task is performed by the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. He is a point of light. He does not possess His own body. He is like a non-living thing. Then how does He become living being? He enters into a permanent one (mukarrar). Why does He enter into one alone, who is called the permanent Chariot? Why does He cut (i.e. disprove) The Knowledge of omnipresence (of God) by becoming the Supreme Soul through him, and gets revealed as ekvyaapi (present in one)? (Someone said – He is 100 percent true) Certainly, that ‘one’ has so much firmness that – 84 births pass while clashing with all the dualistic souls which come in this world since the beginning of the Copper Age and that soul remains stable. It experiences downfall in the last birth and the Father enters into him and brings about the transformation that is to be done. Then it is said – ‘one’ is true and the entire world is false.

He is called the true Paatshah (Emperor). He establishes such a Emperorship, which is praised in the world as ‘vasudhaiv kutumbkam’. Every child of that family (kutumb) is an Emperor. Nobody considers himself/herself to be downtrodden. For example all the cubs in a family of lions belong to the same geneology (nasal). Nobody is coward like a vulture. Everyone feels that – I am the king of the jungle. Similarly, in the kingdom that is established in the Confluence-Aged Golden Age, in that kingdom, all the souls belonging to the category of subjects (prajavarg); they are subjects for namesake, but everyone feels himself to be a king. As the king so are the subjects (yatha raja tatha praja). This stage starts falling from the first birth of the Golden Age itself. The celestial degrees start reducing. The powers start reducing. The soul starts disintegrating. The downfall (patan) begins. Although the pace of downfall in the Golden Age and the Silver Age is slow, but downfall does take place, isn’it? In the Confluence Age, the attainments that the children obtain directly from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul cannot be achieved by anyone else in the world. It cannot be achieved even by the souls like Radha and Krishna because their vibration itself becomes like that – a beneficial vibration. World benefactors (vishwa kalyaankaari). It cannot be possible that they cause the benefit of one and not of the other
.....(to be contd.)
-----------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
PreviousNext

Return to PBK

cron