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Post14 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.553, Audio Cassette No.1039, dated 13.11.06, Calcutta

Clarification of Murli dated 31.05.67

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... Even now the Father has come. He even plays a part. He even narrates knowledge. The children even develop faith numberwise. Then how does Maya shake in such a way that the entire world gets broomed (i.e. cleaned). This is a karmic account of 63 births. As and when was the company one had kept in the 63 births, so is the stage of the intellect that develops. Obstacles come; definitely the reel of sins rotates in such a way which proves that – we must have certainly created obstacle in a good task in a past birth. So, in spite of making such righteous efforts we face obstacles. While there are some such effort-makers also – the more frequently the obstacles they face, the faster would their efforts increase day in and day out. The efforts of some souls decrease when they face obstacles and the efforts of some souls increase when they face obstacles. Is it not the deep account of karma then what else? That is why the Father says – ‘whatever is predestined is happening; nothing new is to happen’ (banee banaayee ban rahee, ab kachu banani na)

Then it also does not mean that - someone should sit without making efforts and think that whatever is to happen would definitely happen. Why should we make efforts? But do we know everything about whatever is to happen, and whatever has happened in 63 births? We do not know. In case of eating (food) nobody thinks that - if we had eaten earlier (i.e. in the previous Kalpa), then we would eat. If it is predestined in the drama then we would eat, and if it is not predestined then we would not eat. Did anyone ever think? No. But in case of making efforts, we think that - if it is predestined in the drama then we would automatically make efforts. Father has also told properly that - in which circumstance the ‘drama’ factor has to be used and in which case the ‘effortmaking’ factor has to be used.

The meaning of 'purushaarth' (effort) itself is - for the sake of soul. 'Swaarth' means - for the sake of one's own Chariot (swa rath). Whatever task is performed, whatever we speak, whatever we think for the body-like Chariot, is temporary and whatever is done for the sake of soul is permanent.

The root (mool) is the soul. Without becoming constant in soul conscious stage, one cannot remember the Father. The more we practice that - we are a point of light soul, the more the remembrance of the Father becomes firm automatically. The Father keeps coming closer to us. The intellect keeps becoming firm. The intellect would not shake. Because of the soul conscious stage not being strong, small obstacles emerge in the daily life; small circumstances emerge; they appear like mountains. To the one who remains in a soul conscious stage (swasthiti) the mountain also appears to be like a mustard seed. The mountain becomes a mustard seed (raai), it becomes cotton (rui), it becomes light.
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Post15 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.553, Audio Cassette No.1039, dated 13.11.06, Calcutta

Clarification of Murli dated 31.05.67

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......So, there is such a difference between the remembrance of the souls and the remembrance of the Supreme Soul Father. All the souls experience downfall and cause downfall. They descend from above (i.e. a higher stage). They have a nature of descending. They have a nature of experiencing pleasures. They are the ones, which experience downfall while experiencing pleasures and the Supreme Soul neither experiences pleasures nor pains. He always remains constant in a soul conscious stage. That is why the influence of his company causes upliftment forever and it is in practical form. Practical means ‘along with the body.’ It is not that when He was in the body of Brahma, it was practical. He narrated The Knowledge through the body of Brahma, but that was limited to listening and narrating knowledge. Nobody understood it deeply at all. It did not fit into the intellect of Brahma himself. Had it fitted into his intellect, the declaration about the destruction of the world in 1976 would not have been made that - the entire world would be destroyed and the new world would be established. It was a matter in unlimited sense. A child's intellect does not understand matters in unlimited sense. The soul of Krishna takes birth in the Golden Age with a child-like intellect. When Krishna would take birth, there would be a world of difference between the intellect of that child and the one who gives birth to him. There is no comparison between a deity soul and the part of the Supreme Soul.

Deities are called fools (buddhu). Their swadarshanchakra does not revolve at all. Their intellect does not contain The Knowledge of what is going to happen in future and what has happened in the past and those who are going to give birth to children like Radha and Krishna are equal to the Father. They are the ones who achieve attainments from the Supreme Soul Father practically. They do not achieve the attainments of one birth. They achieve the attainments of complete 21 births. And on the basis of those 21 births the account of their 63 births also becomes strong. The nature of making efforts becomes firm. Here, in the end, they prove to be high in the eyes of the world and in the 63 births also they prove to be high only.

Although the heretic tormentors come and attack, cause destruction, even then it fits into the intellect of those attackers that – these are some unique souls. They come like swarms of locusts with their army numbering lakhs and the kings of India (at that time) were a divided lot. The batallions (tukdiyaan) of the army were small. They were not even organized. Even then they make the tormentors taste defeat. Every soldier of Shivaji’s army used to face hundreds. Where did they fill so much zeal and enthusiasm in themselves? This zeal and enthusiasm is filled in this Confluence Age itself.

It is said that – God gives with open hands. Can there be any comparison between the five Pandavas and eleven Akshauhini (multimillion) strong army of Kauravas? In the beginning there were 18 Akshauhini. The entire world consists of Kauravas and Yadavas. And where did the Pandavas acquire such power that they gain victory over such a huge group? It fits into their intellect that – the Almighty Father is on our side. Nobody possesses as much power as we. Whereas God does not even fight directly on their side (or behalf). He gives them power in an incognito form. Pandavas are incognito, all their efforts are incognito, the donation of their entire life is also incognito; whatever respect and position they are supposed to get is also entirely incognito. In spite of all this, they take possession of the entire world.

Now that time is going on. The souls which desire to receive can obtain even now on the basis of becoming nishchaybuddhi (ones who have faith on God Father). The longer one remains nishchaybuddhi, the longer one would become victorious (vijayanti). He would become victorious even now and he would become victorious in the 63 births also. He would not get defeated by anyone. Victory is our birth right. This birthright is received in the Confluence Age itself. Had it not been so, Maharana Pratap would have been defeated. He did not taste defeat. He had filled in himself such zeal and enthusiasm in the Confluence-Aged life that he clashed with such a big Empire and did not accept defeat. Even here the Father says – if children display courage, the Father is ready to help. Father is bound to help to whatever extent the children display courage. Whatever may be the circumstance, whatever may be the problem, however much fearful may be the atmosphere, Father would help the children who display courage and He would help till the end. Omshanti.
( Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Post19 Jun 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.554, dated 15.11.2006 at Bangalore

Clarification of Murli dated 31.5.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


The Vani that was being narrated was a morning class dated 31st May, 1967. The matter being narrated was – Remembering the Father means obtaining the inheritance of peace and everyone has to become peaceful. By living peacefully you become long-lived. And by living in peacelessness the age keeps decreasing. The body also becomes healthy, by what? By living peacefully. Nobody except the Father can take you to the Abode of peace (shaantidhaam). Everyone makes peaceless, sick. They cause the age to reduce. Nobody can make you swadarshan-chakradhari (one who rotates the discus of self-realzation). It is just the soul which becomes swadarshan chakradhari. The inert, living creatures do not become swadarshan chakradhari. The soul becomes (swadarshan chakradhari). He is the Father also, because He possesses The Knowledge of the beginning, middle and end of the world. This one does not possess. Who does not possess? And who possesses? Brahma does not possess; that one possesses because he is the Father. Seed is called the Father. The mother is not called the seed. What is the mother called? (Mother) is called the land/Earth. She bears the seed, and that Father is narrating the Gita and is now establishing the new world.

That Gita has been made (i.e. written) by the human beings. Which Gita? (Someone said – the false Gita) How is it false? (Someone said – it has become impaired) That Gita which becomes impaired (khandit), for which it has been said in the Murli that the entire Gita has been impaired/condemned. By whom? By the human beings. That Gita has been made (i.e. written) by the human beings. Whose impression has been imprinted on it? Krishna’s impression has been imprinted on it. The impression of the one, who is the first leaf of the human creation, has been imprinted. The impression gets imprinted on the heart, isn’t it? So, the impression of Krishna has been imprinted on the heart of that Gita and Krishna is the first leaf. Then who is the Father? The seed is the Father. It means that when the leaf is leading an effort-making life, when he is leading a corporeal life, then he does not assume the seed-like stage through his corporeal body.

Abraham, Buddha, Christ, Guru Nanak, everyone is a seed of his religion. Every one (of them) assumes an incorporeal seed-like stage. Krishna does not assume a seed-like stage. There are so many pictures of Brahma. Call him Brahma, call him Brahma alias Golden Aged Krishna – it is one and the same. Brahma is the effortmaking life and Krishna is the life of (enjoying the) fruits (praarabdha). The Krishna, who obtains the fruits, is the most righteous leaf among the leaves of world tree. Human being; and greater than human beings are deities. He is supreme among those who take birth as deities, but the seeds who give birth even to that deity world, those seeds are the ones who assume a seed-like stage and give birth to four and a half lakh (450 thousand) children like Radha and Krishna; So, those who take birth as children are the base-like souls and those who assume a seed-like stage in order to give birth are the seed-like fathers.

The Father sits and explains everything. Those who play the part of Earth are not the ones who explain. Those who play the part in the form of a mother are not the ones who explain. They are the ones who listen and narrate, but they do not become souls (i.e. soul conscious). They do not become seed-like souls with their own efforts. Then how do they become? When they enter into the (bodies of) seed-like souls, then, under the influence of their company, those seeds colour them with their colour. Whom? The children like Radha and Krishna who take birth. They did make efforts in the past birth, they did listen to The Knowledge, and even inculcated it, but the incomplete knowledge fitted into their intellect. It did not fit into their intellect in the form of nectar of knowledge of Gita. The Gita fitted into their intellect.

Two forms of Gita emerge. One is a Gita created by human beings and one is a Gita created by God. Through the God of Gita Brahma becomes Vishnu in one second and through the Gita created by human beings this world gets transformed from heaven to hell in 5000 years if not in 2500 years. The Father sits and explains all this – who is the true Gita and who is the false Gita? Because He is the Father of all the souls. The souls, whose Father He is, all those children are Brothers mutually. When the Father creates the new world, then you become Brothers and Sisters through Prajapita Brahma. Everyone is a Brahmakumar/Kumari. When this fact is there in the intellect, then the consciousness of female and male gets removed. And the human beings laugh at you. They do not understand that we are also Brothers and Sisters. How are they Brothers and Sisters? If not today, tomorrow the entire human world has to become the children of Prajapita Brahma.

When Baba creates the creation, then they become Brothers and Sisters. Then the criminal vision vanishes. That is why the Gandharva marriage (marriage by mutual agreement) is famous. This pertains to which time? Were Gandharva marriages solemnized also in basic knowledge or not? (Someone said – they were) They were solemnized. Then, did they become Brother and Sister or did they become Brothers [brother-brother]? Did they become Brothers as souls? Did they develop the vision of Brother and Sister? If they did not become (Brothers and Sisters) then when will they become? They become Brother and Sister when they realize the truth. Two rosaries get prepared. One is the rosary of the one who gets transformed from Brahma to Vishnu. Brahma had made incomplete efforts; so no rosary of the Brahmins gets prepared. And when Brahma gets coloured by the company of the Father of the human world, then after achieving the perfect stage, he gets transformed from Brahma to Vishnu. Then the rosary of Vishnu gets prepared, which is called – Vijaymala (rosary of victory). That is a rosary of Sisters
.....(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.554, dated 15.11.2006 at Bangalore

Clarification of Murli dated 31.5.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


...…A tradition has been continuing in India. Until when? Until the revelation of the Father took place. Which tradition has been going on? The inheritance of kingship is not received by the daughters. Who receives it? The Brother (son) receives it. The Sister (daughter) does not receive it. In every household and family, the man is the king of his home. As the king so the subjects. What do even the subjects do? In the 63 births in India did the subjects give their inheritance to the Brothers or to the Sisters? (Someone said – they gave it to the Brothers) Did they give it to the sons or to the daughters? (Someone said – they gave it to the sons) They gave it to the sons. Where did this tradition start? (Someone said – from the Confluence Age) How? Those who (became the ones who) followed the mother in their effortmaking life became virgins (kanya). They can become queens, but they cannot become kings. Their name is Vijaymala (rosary of victory).

Mala means gathering (sangathan). How is a gathering formed? A gathering is formed through purity. Those virgins who establish unity through purity imbibe purity for 63 births numberwise. And in India, the kingship of the Indians remains intact. Mothers possess more purity; that inheritance of purity is passed on to the daughters as well. Who become sharper in studying this lesson of purity?, If we observe even till date the virgins become clever. Then those who become clever in studying the lesson of purity should receive the inheritance. When God comes as God, then why does He do injustice? When it is just the study of purity, then those who lead a pure life, those who gallop ahead in purity should receive inheritance. Which inheritance? The inheritance of kingship.

So, why doesn’t God come and give the kingship to the virgins? (Someone said – the virgins remain subordinates) Yes, this is the specialty that the one who, as a virgin, remains subordinate, her purity remains intact (akshunn). The Indian tradition says this and what happens in the foreign tradition? The virgins (daughters) become independent from the childhood itself. They do not remain in the subordination of the parents. Because they do not remain in subordination, their purity becomes impaired. That is why the mothers of India are praised.

What has been said for the mothers of India in the Avyakt Vanis? The slogan in the end would be ‘Bharat mata Shivshakti avataar’ (Mother India is the incarnation of Shivshakti). It is a slogan of the end. It is not the slogan of the beginning or middle. Even those mothers did not show the miracle in the beginning and in the middle. How will the mothers show the miracle in the beginning? The seed-like Father himself did not get the complete dose of knowledge. The Knowledge was incomplete; so he departed having renounced it. So, there is no question of the mother achieving the attainments at all. That is a matter of the basic knowledge.

It cannot be ‘jam de jaam de’ [happen all of a sudden/hastily] in the Advanced Knowledge also. It is not that – when 1976 is the year of the revelation of the Father, then the establishment would take place immediately in practical form. Will the revelation of the abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam) and the abode of peace (shaantidhaam) take place in the intellect-like field numberwise or will the abode of prosperity and the abode of peace get prepared in practical form? The revelation of the abode of prosperity and the abode of peace takes place on the intellect-like land of the seed-like Father and then it takes place in the numberwise intellect of the children, but they are the seed-like souls, which understand the seed of knowledge. They understand the essence. On understanding the essence, when that essence is sowed in the intellect-like land, then the expansion also takes place. The more subtle the seed is, the more The Tree would expand. An example of the Banyan tree is given, the seed is so subtle and its world achieves so much expansion, but who is the seed of all the seed-like souls? It would be said – Prajapita. Arey, is the Father of the souls also Prajapita? He is the Father of the entire human world.

There are also such souls in the human world, which assume the complete seed-like stage when God arrives. They become seeds. There is no name or trace of body consciousness. They become such seed-like souls that - they do not require reproducing even through vision, even through the contact of sense organs. For example in the picture of Radha & Krishna and Lakshmi & Narayan it has been shown that Lakshmi & Narayan are not looking at each other even through their eyes. They are standing in the world of Confluence-Aged Golden Age and Radha & Krishna are enjoying the pleasure of vision in the Golden Aged world. Although the vision is unadulterated, still they are enjoying the pleasure of the sense organs. Those sense organs are also part of the body itself. So, such children, which are no doubt souls; just as there are the 500 crore human souls, they are the ones who enjoy the pleasure of body consciousness. But they (referring to souls like Lakshmi and Narayan) are such children, in whom there is no name or trace of body consciousness. They become complete souls. Who would be the Father of such spiritual children who become souls? It cannot be Prajapita. He is the Father of the body conscious ones also
...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.554, dated 15.11.2006 at Bangalore

Clarification of Murli dated 31.5.67

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....Ram becomes Ravan. So, will he become Ravan without body consciousness? He has to assume body consciousness. Otherwise, even the destruction of such a big demoniac world cannot take place. It has been written in Gita that even if a constantly soul conscious person (aatmanishtha vyakti) kills the entire world, then also he would not accrue any sin. Will he kill without having body consciousness? Destruction can take place only when he has body consciousness. If one is completely soul conscious then there is no question of destruction at all. Will he establish the abode of sorrows (dukhdhaam), will he establish the abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam) or will he establish the abode of peace (shaantidhaam) in this world? What will he establish in this corporeal world? He will establish the abode of peace. He would become instrumental in establishing the abode of peace if he assumes complete seed-like stage. If he has body consciousness, then he would also possess vices (vishay-vikaar). Purity leads to establishment and impurity leads to destruction.

So, who is the Father of such souls that imbibe seed-like stage? Who is the Father of the souls? The one who is the Father of souls produces children who are in a spiritual stage. All other Fathers are body conscious and produce body conscious ones. They cannot produce souls/spirits (i.e. soul conscious ones). Does Prajapita also produce souls(i.e. soul conscious ones) or body conscious ones? Arey, if he is a bodily being, then he would produce body conscious ones. If he is a soul/spirit, then he would produce souls. The spiritual Father is Shiv, but He is such a Father who does not assume His own body. He always remains in a spiritual stage and He enters into the most body conscious one of this world and what does He make him having entered him? He makes him soul conscious and what kind of a soul conscious being does He make him? He makes him like Himself.

Just as He Himself is SadaaShiv (ever beneficial), similarly in the Confluence Age He makes him a soul (i.e. soul conscious) forever, only in the Confluence Age; not for two-four seconds, two-four minutes, ten-fifteen days, not for a month or two, not for two-four years, he can imbibe soul consciousness whenever he desires as long as the Confluence Age exists. He can assume body whenever he wishes and not assume the body whenever he does not desire. When he becomes a soul (i.e. soul conscious), then he can perform his tasks by entering into all the souls of the human world. He can mould the intellect of those who produce atom bombs also.

He is the Father of all the body conscious ones. How many are soul conscious ones and how many are body conscious ones? Four and a half lakhs are soul conscious ones and what about the rest of the world? (Many replied – body conscious) Body conscious. The Father of the four and a half lakh souls is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. The Supreme Father enters into the one who plays the part of a hero among all souls and becomes the Supreme Soul. What kind of a soul? He becomes the Supreme Soul. Does He become? Was He not Supreme Soul earlier? (Someone said – No) Why? Was the Supreme Soul not a (Paramatma) Supreme Soul earlier? A comparison can be made only when He enters into a body.

People belonging to other religions do not accept at all. What? That the Supreme Soul enters into a corporeal body in this world; that is why they are unable to infer the true meaning of Supreme Soul. What is the name that they coin? They have coined the name – Supreme Soul, but they do not know that how is the supremacy established? Good, better, best. Best means supremacy. Supremacy is established only when He becomes corporeal. So He enters into the corporeal body of a soul and enables him to reach the stage of Supreme Soul. Does this title of Supreme Soul belong to the Supreme Soul Shiv or to the one in whom He enters? (Someone said – it belongs to the one in whom He enters) Why? It is because Shiv cannot be compared to anyone. Shiv cannot be compared to anyone.

That Shiv is unique (turiya). All other souls enter into The Cycle of birth and death. Shiv does not enter into The Cycle of birth and death and the one who assumes the most soul conscious stage among all the souls which enter into The Cycle of birth and death, achieves the stage equal to the Father or the Father, the Supreme Soul Father Shiv makes him equal to Himself and then departs. So it is said in the path of worship – Shiv and Shankar are one. In the basic knowledge, Brahmakumar-kumaris explain that Shiv and Shankar are not one, they are different. Well, how could it be explained that they are different or one? They will be said to be different only when a point of difference could be established. What is the point of difference that is established between both the souls?

One is a pleasure-seeker (bhogi), he is always a pleasure seeker. What? What does ‘always’ (sadaiv) mean? He is a pleasure-seeker from the beginning to the end and one soul is always a ‘non-pleasure-seeker’ (abhokta), who is called the Supreme Soul. That is why it has been written in the main Veda among the Vedas, i.e. Rigveda that – Dwa-suparna suyuja sakhaya samaaanam vriksham abhishasvajaatey’. This world is like a tree, on which two special birds reside. One is a pleasure-seeker (bhokta) and one is a non-pleasure seeker (abhokta). While living on that tree, one is always abhokta and one is bhokta also and becomes an abhokta as well. He can become bhokta whenever he wishes and he can become abhokta whenever he wishes, which is described in the Avyakt Vanis by Baba as – perform tasks through the bodily organs whenever you wish and become detached from the the bodily organs, from the actions whenever you do not wish. There is no force of the Maya which can excite the bodily organs
...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.554, dated 15.11.2006 at Bangalore

Clarification of Murli dated 31.5.67

Ref. No.VCD*.
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... The stage where one does not experience the bondage of bodily organs is called ‘abhokta’. One experiences the pleasures through the bodily organs whenever one wishes. The Knowledge of where one should become a pleasure-seeker (bhokta) and where one should become a non-pleasure-seeker (abhokta) – should always remain in the intellect. It should not be the case that the bodily organs enslave. Otherwise, who is called ‘manushya’ (human being)? The one who becomes a slave to the bodily organs is called a human being and who is called God? The one who controls and enables others to control the bodily organs is called God. When the bodily organs bind the soul, then it is called a human being. When the soul goes beyond the bondage of the organs then the soul becomes a deity. The soul is a Supreme Soul (aatma so parmatma) - they say so in the path of devotion. They do not know – which soul becomes Supreme Soul? There is only one soul, which plays the part of the Supreme Soul. That too not forever; it is only a matter of the Confluence Age. That is why it is said – the soul never dies. The soul is imperishable (amar). So, all the children of Amarnath are said to be whose children? Children of Amarnath. Do they become numberwise Amarnath or do they become equally Amarnath? They become numberwise Amarnath. They become nishchaybuddhi vijayatey (the one who develops faith on God becomes victorious). They develop such strong faith that – while being alive they witness the destruction of the world also and they also witness the new world. Their eyes also become imperishable. They are the children of the Father - the Supreme Soul Father, who is the highest Father. Abraham, Buddha, Christ, Guru Nanak are also Fathers, but they cannot be called the Supreme Father. Nobody calls them (Supreme Father) either.

What does the Supreme Father give? Would He give a small inheritance or a big inheritance? What is the biggest inheritance? (Someone said – giving gati, i.e. salvation and sadgati, i.e. true salvation) 500 crore souls also get gati-sadgati. (Someone said – He gives gati-sadgati even while the bodies exist) Yes, He gives salvation (gati) while the body is alive, the soul becomes dynamic (gatimaan), the soul becomes swadarshan chakradhari. The inert intellect gets destroyed. It becomes the one which realizes its form. It realizes many births that – how, what and where have I, the soul played parts in this cycle of 84 (births)? It becomes dynamic also and it experiences pleasures/happiness while the body is alive; it does not experience sorrows, i.e. it achieves true salvation. Nobody except the four and a half lakh souls experience such gati and sadgati. These are the true spiritual children of the spiritual Father, who obtain the inheritance of the kingship of the Father. What do they study? They study the study of Rajyog - the raaz (i.e. secret) which nobody except the Supreme Father Supreme Soul can teach. He establishes such an organized/united family that nobody else might have established such a big family.

It is visible in practical form that – this one is their mother and this one is their Father. That gathering of family is visible. The rosary-like gathering is also visible. All of them are incognito/secret effort-makers (gupt purushaarthi). They obtain incognito/ secret inheritance from the incognito Father. Their donation is incognito/secret. Those who are not in that list would keep revealing their donation. They would not be able to keep it incognito/a secret; they would make a show of it. The donations of the incognito/secret Pandava children of the incognito/secret Father, the incognito/secret Panda (guide), would entirely be incognito/a secret. The world cannot know that - how did they donate their body? It would not be revealed in the eyes of the world. Did they donate the body, did they donate their body, did they donate their wife and children, did they donate their relatives, the people of the outside world cannot know. They would not understand that secret till the end and those whose intellect understands this secret, become the Rajyogi children of the raazdaar (one who knows the secrets) Father and get included in the list of Gop-Gopis, who performed the entire task in an incognito way. Even the donation of the body was incognito; the donation of wealth was also made in an incognito way. As far as possible, the donation of time, contacts and relatives was also made in an incognito manner. The entire power was used in the Yagya in an incognito way. This is an incognito Pandava Government.

Why is it called the Pandava Government? Why it is not called the Shakti government? It is called the Pandava Government because the children who obtain kingship bind themselves in spiritual rule while being in a soul conscious stage. The ones who are called shaktis are not able to melt their body consciousness to that extent as to be praised in the scriptures that – Pandavas melted their body consciousness. That is why one form of God is God Mother and another form is –God Father. In the form of Brahma [He] is God Mother and in the form of Prajapita [He] is God Father. That is why it has been said in the Murli – actually, this Brahma is your Jagdamba. But the body is male; that is why he cannot be kept in-charge of the virgins and mothers. That is why, who is made the incharge (of virgins and mothers)? Om Radhey Jagdamba Saraswati.

So, when Brahma is the actual Jagdamba, but Brahma is not worshipped, Brahma’s idols are not prepared, Brahma’s temples are not constructed. So, what is the use of being Jagdamba? It proves useful when that Brahma, after leaving his body, enters into a virgin/mother and then he is worshipped in the world as Jagdamba. The virgin/mother in whom he enters also becomes a bead of the Rudramala, for whom it is depicted – what did he (Krishna) do with the mountain? He lifted the mountain on the tip of the little finger. He did not even lift it on the thumb. Thumb is stronger. On what was it (i.e. the mountain) lifted? It was lifted on the little finger (kanishthika). It is said, is it not, that – highest effort-maker, medium effort-maker and least effort-maker. So, when a task is performed through the hand, then which finger possesses more power among the five fingers? Thumb possesses more power and what about the little finger? As is the power it possesses, so is the task it can perform. So, the Goverdhan Mountain was lifted on the last bead of the Rudramala. What has it been named? The mountain that promotes/increases cows. What does vardhan mean? One who promotes/ causes an increase.

The Yagya was established in 1937. So, from 1937 until the arrival at Delhi, what was the maximum increase in strength/number that was achieved in 16-17 years? 300-400 and the strength/number (of surrendered category) remained the same till Brahma was alive. After leaving the body that was not a matter at all. Actually, they cannot even be called Brahmakumar-kumaris in practical form. In the advance (party), those who call themselves to be pakka Prajapita Brahmakumar-kumari, among them, those who establish incognito relationship, those who become Gop-Gopis, what is their number? (Someone said – 16000) Is it 16000? Is it there now? It was not there in the beginning of the Yagya as well as at present. It means that it cannot be called a mountain. It cannot be called a mountain that promotes/increases cows, under which they could get protection. The cows increase to such an extent that - the world is amazed and however much atheist one may be, he also bows his head that – He alone is God. He is called – Mt. Goverdhan. Who becomes instrumental? Jagdamba becomes instrumental
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.554, dated 15.11.2006 at Bangalore

Clarification of Murli dated 31.5.67

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... Now the Didi, Dadi, Dadas have assumed titles in the basic knowledge. They have got (her name) published as world mother in the newspapers. They have got it printed in books. Having organized big mega programmes, having printed their pictures below [the picture of] Shiv, the point of light, they have created three personalities for whom it has been said in the Avyakt Vanis that three seats have already been fixed. So, the pictures got printed immediately and the three seats got fixed. Brahma, the Father and Jagdamba - the world mother, because it has been said in the Murli – it would have been easier to understand if Mama had been seated in the place of Shankar. That is why Jagdamba will be always shown at the top in the pictures published at megaprogrammes, because she is the world mother, isn’t she? World God Father used to come in the body of Brahma; He has departed. Now who will lift the Mt. Govardhan? Arey, is Jagdamba required or not? (Someone said – she is required) So, Jagdamba emerged. How many cows will she nurture? 16108 virgins should surrender.

There in the Avyakt Vani BapDada has said 3-4 years ago, perhaps 6 years ago. The surrender ceremony of virgins was taking place; at that time it was said – this is not the final surrender ceremony. Now, the surrender ceremony would be organized once again. What does that mean? It means that – in the basic knowledge, surrender took place as per the basic knowledge, the incomplete knowledge, but when would it be considered the final surrender? Arey! Will the surrender take place when God is present or will it be considered to be surrender when God is not present practically at all? The world would accept the surrender when God is in practical; that is why it has been said – the surrender ceremony would be organized once again. A hint was given for the future.

So, Jagdamba becomes instrumental to take care of 16000 virgins and mothers. In the basic knowledge, the Brahmins possessing incomplete knowledge think that – this one is Jagdamba and those following the Advanced Knowledge think that – this one is Jagdamba. Only that person can be Jagdamba, in whom the part of mothers, virgins of the entire world is contained. The one who possesses the nature and sanskars of the virgins and mothers from foreign countries and of the Indian virgins and mothers as well. She is the seed, the seed of the virgins and mothers of the entire world. She would give sustenance in the end. Becoming instrumental of such huge sustenance is not an easy task [as easy as visiting the maternal aunt’s house]. It is not an ordinary task.

The devotees simply keep singing – Jai mata di (Victory to the mother!) When they sing in enthusiasm (josh) – Jai mata di, then, do they remember that there is a Jai pita di (Victory to the Father) also behind [her], who teaches them knowledge? This matter does not remain in their intellect. It does not remain in the basic knowledge also. When the fort of Advanced Knowledge gets established, even then it does not occur in the intellect of the devotee souls; why? It is because the Father plays his an incognito role. He was incognito in the beginning also. He is incognito in the middle also. Is he incognito or is he now visible? (Someone said – He is visible in front of the children) Is he visible amidst the children? Do the children not lose faith? Do the children not lose faith? (Someone said – they do lose faith) The children also lose faith.

Nobody can boast that – I have never lost faith, nor am I losing faith and nor will I lose faith in future. (Someone asked – Who shakes?) Maya. Just now, it was told - how big posters they have printed! It means that you have not yet understood the one who shakes. When you do not understand the one who shakes, then you would not be able to understand the one who makes you constant as well. Who is the one who stabilizes and who is the one who makes one shake? Who is Ravan and who is Ram? Will both of them be identified simultaneously or will one be identified and the other not? To identify both means to be knowledgeful. Omshanti.
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VCD* No.558, Audio Cassette No.1044, dated 12.11.06, Haripur

Clarification of Murli dated 30.5.67

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Remember only me. Do not remember anyone else. The souls which take the strong vow (pratigya) of remembrance of 'one' after entering the path of knowledge - however much the Maya may create tides (hilorey) - Father is ready to give special help to the children who display such courage. Maya cannot cause any harm to them. So such samples also emerge. They emerge in the basic knowledge also, they emerge in the Advanced Knowledge also - they come in the last and they gallop fast.

When the basic knowledge started, the Didi-Dadi, Dadas surged ahead; they started shining in the world of Brahmins. The people belonging to the outside world started raising fingers. Such big sages, saints and monks, who performed penance for thousands of years could not know God and how did your Didi-Dadi, Dadas came to know (about God)? The same thing started becoming applicable in the Advanced Knowledge also. Those who had not even seen Mamma-Baba, those who had not even obtained their sustenance, and had only listened to the Vani (versions) narrated through the mouth and paid attention to that Vani. They came to be known as mouthborn Brahmins and after making fast efforts, now, within the last two years BapDada has been talking continuously to the eight deities (Asht Dev) in the Avyakt Vanis. So fingers are raised. Such senior Didis-Dadis, Dadas cannot get included in the list of eight deities! And how can these children who have emerged in the last 6, 8, 10 years get included in the list of the eight deities?

Now in a recent Avyakt Vani Avyakt BapDada has stated clearly about Dadis that these Dadis have not yet got included in the list of the eight deities. The numbers of two (souls) have even been declared. It means that one pair of Rudramala (rosary of Rudra) which are covered by the Suryavanshi (belonging to the Sun Dynasty) and Chandravanshi (belonging to the Moon Dynasty) peel has got revealed. The recognition (pehchaan) is very easy. Is there the indication of Sun in it or not? If the intellect of all those, who are following the path of Advanced Knowledge contains The Knowledge of the Sun – who is the living Sun of Knowledge (chaitanya gyaan soorya) and the seed of the Suryavanshis? Although he is the seed of the entire world, but first of all he is the seed of the Suryavanshis. If one recognizes him, then he (i.e. the Sun of Knowledge) gets the title of ‘Yogeshwar’. If he is a Yogeshwar, then there would be a Sister Yogini also.

This is knowledge of the path of household. The foundation itself is of the path of household. The place of laying the foundation is also famous in the path of worship. Which place is it? Which town in India is considered to be a centre of knowledge and Yoga (Yoga ka punj)? What has been said? Kashi. In the path of worship it is said that the city of Kashi is situated on the trident (Trishool) of God Shankar. How perfect would be the balance! Three dents (shool) of the Trident (Trishool). Among them which dent is the sharpest? It is the middle one and (the city of Kashi) is situated on its tip (noke).

Living in the world of Brahmins is not as easy as visiting a maternal aunt’s house. Everyone is not able to hold-on. OK, it may even be easy to live, but to keep everyone happy, to satisfy everyone, to obtain the blessings of satisfaction while living among them is a great balancing act. It is alright that the Sun does not tolerate, it enables (others) to tolerate more. It does burn, but then what does it do? It ignites fire. It burns things to ashes and what about the Moon? Does the Moon enables (others) to tolerate or does it (itself) tolerate? It tolerates.

So whoever are the beads of the Rudramala, among those beads of Rudramala 8 are special, who are true Suryavanshis because the selection (chunaav) of the eight deities (asht dev) takes place from the Suryavansh (Sun Dynasty) only. The eight deities cannot be from among those who assume the peels of other dynasties. It is a different thing that everyone experiences downfall in the last birth. If darkness does not enter anyone’s life, then the dawn would also not arrive. If someone experiences downfall, then one would also rise high. The Suryavanshi group keeps facing the vidharmis (heretics) from the beginning of the Copper Age and falls to the ground (i.e. experiences downfall) in the last birth at the end of the Iron Age. Even among them there is one such instrumental soul, which does not leave the inculcations of the Sun Dynasty and it does not get covered by the peel of any religion. Just as the Sun is number one in enabling others to tolerate and in facing (others), that living soul is also similar. Nobody can give it light. It is instrumental in giving light to everyone.

Similarly, in the clan of the moon of knowledge (gyaan chandrama) Brahma, the moon of knowledge does not possess that much power of tolerance because he does not possess complete knowledge, he does not possess Advanced Knowledge, that is why he goes and takes birth in the (period of) decreasing celestial degree, but there is a seed of those Chandravanshis also, who is visible in the rosary of Rudra. That seed of Chandravanshis is the mother who gives birth to the Gyan Chandrama Brahma. Whether it is the junior mother (choti Maa) or the senior mother (badee Maa). Whether it is the head of the Moon Dynasty in the rosary of Rudra (Rudramala) or the head of the Moon Dynasty in the rosary of victory (Vijaymala). She proves to be the one who teaches the lesson of knowledge and inculcation (dhaarnaa) because knowledge is contained in the seeds of the rudramala alone. Vijaymala does not possess knowledge. Vijaymala is blind (andhi). It is a rosary of the blind ones (andhon ki mala) and the Rudramala is a rosary of lame people (langdon ki mala). They are indeed knowledgeful, but they are lame in the matter of purity.

Even among those seeds of the Rudramala, the ones who are the highest Suryavanshis, those who are the eight deities among those Suryavanshis, those eight go to eight differenct religions and experience downfall in the last birth. Sun is sun only. The one who is the seed of moon, the seed of even the moon of knowledge, the seed of even the one who gives birth to him, the seed of the head of Rudramala also and the seed of the head of the Vijaymala also, because Radha emerges from Vijaymala. Radha belongs to the Moon Dynasty and Krishna belongs to the Sun Dynasty. This is a matter of the Confluence-Aged Radha and Krishna, who give birth to the Golden Aged Radha and Krishna
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.558, Audio Cassette No.1044, dated 12.11.06, Haripur

Clarification of Murli dated 30.5.67

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... So the seed of the Moon Dynasty (chandravansh), that seed in the Rudramala, about which (it has been mentioned) in the Avyakt Vani; it has been said about other seeds also, especially about the eight deities in the Avyakt Vanis that you children are the ones who have decorated these Didi-Dadis too. Whether, they are the Didi-Dadis of the basic knowledge or the Didi-Dadis of the Advanced Knowledge, they are sitting as the heads of the other religions. They are present among the base-like (aadhaarmoort or root-like) souls also, they are in the seed-like souls (beejmoort) also; someone is required to decorate them with the gems of virtues and knowledge. A mother alone decorates the children.

The main group in the Rudramala is – the Sun Dynasty (Sooryavansh); and there is ‘a Brother and a Sister’ or ‘Brothers’ also, who play the part equal to that of the mother and Father of Suryavanshis. The elder Brother is called equal to the Father, while the elder Sister is called equal to the mother. In the absence of the mother, either the Father alone has to give sustenance or the elder Sister has to play the part of the mother. So, in the Sun Dynasty that Yogiraj and that Yogini, who are the highest ones among the eight deities in the Rudramala - their foundation gets revealed. A year earlier itself BapDada has said in an Avyakt Vani, especially for the eight deities that BapDada has given you children the gift of new world. You keep coming and going there, don’t you? It means that in the gift that has been given, there are some souls which give sustenance like the mother and Father. It is especially the matter of the Suryavanshi group and there are people who keep coming and going there also; that is why a hint had been given in an Avyakt Vani many years ago. Even if one powerful group gets ready, then it would pull (i.e. attract) other groups and the gathering of the rosary of 108 would unite.

There were nine categories (kuriyaan) of Brahmins in the basic (BK world) also. In the advance (PBK world) also there are nine categories of Brahmins, (nine categories of) seed-like souls. Now the last period would arrive. The first group is going to get revealed soon. When the head (mukhiya) comes in front, then it does not take time for the others to get revealed. When the eight deities get revealed, then the gathering of the first group, the first rosary would get revealed in the world, first in the world of Brahmins. For e.g. when Deepavali comes, lamps (deepak) are placed on a plate (thaali). One lamp is placed in the center. It is lighted first. It is called the lamp of Yam (the lord of death/punishments in Hindu mythology). Call him Yamraj, call him Dharmaraj, call him Yudhishthir, call him the one, who remains steadfast (sthir) in the war, it is one and the same. Other lamps get scattered, get extinguished in the hurricanes (jhanjhaavaat) of Maya. There is one such lamp, which remains unbreakable (atoot), indivisible (akhand) like the Polar Star (Dhruv tara). Maya is unable to break/divide it. The remaining seven lamps are lighted with that one lamp.

Now the remaining time is very less. The children who have come in the last can also go fast. If one is completely covered (pagey huay) in the love of the Father then they can gallop within a short period also. The board of too late has not yet been put up. Two have been declared among the eight deities. It is late but it is not too late. Now it is not the time to sleep. Omshanti.

AV dated 16.11.06 clarified on 27.11.06 at Hyderabad.

Where is Sarla? Arey, would there be any head of Rajasthan or not? There would be a head of Rajasthan as well as Gujarat. Who is (the head of Gujarat) in the limited sense? Who is the head of Gujarat among the souls following the basic knowledge in the Confluence-Aged world of Brahmins? Don’t you know? Sarla. So it has been asked – where is Sarla? What is the meaning (of Sarla) in the unlimited sense? Will there be any meaning of this (word) in the unlimited sense or not? Or is it just a name? What is the meaning? Sarla means one who possesses a ‘saral’, i.e. easy nature. Achha.

Have you made Gujarat your companion (saathi)? Who? Whom has easy natured Sarla made her companion? She has made Gujarat her companion. She has made her companion the one, whose night of ignorance is over; the one, who is not in the dark; the one, who does not lose his faith. Which Sarla is being talked about? (Someone said – It is the Sarla in an unlimited sense) Sarla in an unlimited sense? Has the entire Gujarat become companion? Achha, has the Sarla in a limited sense, the Sarla who is a base-like soul, the one who is Sarla by name, made Gujarat her companion? No. Achha, what about the unlimited sense? (Someone said – It has not become) How? No; would there be anyone instrumental in corporeal form or is it a matter of a place? Is it a matter of population? There is a seed instrumental for Gujarat. That seed of knowledge itself is laid in Gujarat, for which it has been termed – the seed of all centers. So the seed is a living one (chaitanya).

So you have made Gujarat as the companion. Who? Who has made (Gujarat as) a companion? The one, who is the head of Gujarat. Gujarat alone is close to Rajasthan. Is a companion close or distant? Rajasthan is close to Gujarat; that is why it earns more punya (fruits of virtuous actions). It means that all those who are close to Gujarat earn more punya. The closer they live and the nearer they are, the more punya do they earn. Achha., don’t the residents of Karnatak and the residents of Bengal earn punya? (Someone said – they do earn) Do they? (Someone said – through the mind and intellect) Through the mind and intellect? Is it not practically? Are they not the chldren of direct Father? The Father has come directly.

Now Rajasthan is instrumental (nimitt) in this turn. What? Who is the one who earns more punya? Rajasthan. So the past season is past. Now the new season has started. In the past season also Rajasthan was instrumental. Now the next season has started. There is a period of 6 months in between. So how many inheritors (vaaris) has Rajasthan prepared (or produced) in that period? The name itself is Rajasthan. And the Father has also come in Rajasthan, i.e. a place of kings. So tell, how many inheritors have you prepared? It is because BapDada had said that you have to produce the inheritors. So you have been given the first turn (i.e. chance). Who? Rajasthan. Have they emerged? Raise your hands. Who (has emerged) from Rajasthan? Who has emerged? Inheritors. How many have emerged? Is it one or five? How many? Someone said – 3-4 have emerged from Jaipur. The efforts are continuing. Some more would emerge.
Two have emerged from Jodhpur (a city located in Western Rajasthan) It means that the number (i.e.rank) of those who have gained victory, those who have won the struggle (sangharsh), has been fixed. How many of them have emerged? BapDada replied –five have emerged, haven’t they? Three from Jaipur and two from Jodhpur – yuddh pur (a city of wars). The ones who are even now fighting within their mind – on which seat am I set?

How many more are there? How many more are there apart from the five? It would be seen, which are the five that have emerged? Two have been mentioned in the last Avyakt Vani. Two among the eight deities have been declared in the previous Avyakt Vani. They have also been given the title – mother and Father of the Suryavanshis. The mother and Father of the Rudramala are different. The head of Chandravanshis in the entire Rudramala, i.e. the mother and the head of the Suryavanshis (in the entire Rudramala), i.e. the Father. But whose matter is being discussed here? Here it is a matter of (someone from) within the Suryavanshis only. So, among those who are playing the part of being soul-like Brothers, who are the ones who play the role of mother and Father? That has been mentioned in the previous Avyakt Vani. Who are the five that have emerged? Congratulations for having prepared them. Well, when would you call (i.e. bring) those inheritors?

It is nice. Whichever zone has come for service. Now it is the first turn, isn’t it? So whichever zone has come to serve must certainly bring the list of inheritors. It is OK, is it not? You like it, don’t you? Double foreigners should also bring. How many inheritors have the double foreigners produced and in which country? It would be seen, because now the rosary of 108 is to be prepared, isn’t it? The rosary of 108 is to be prepared, isn’t it? It has already been said – Even if one powerful group gets ready, it would pull (i.e. attract) other groups and in the end, the rosary-like gathering of 108 would get ready, would get revealed
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VCD* No.558, Audio Cassette No.1044, dated 12.11.06, Haripur

Clarification of Murli dated 30.5.67

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... BapDada has heard that even those from Abu do service. Who? The residents of Abu serve in the areas in and around Abu. They do a lot of service. Those from Abu, stand up! Those from Gyansarovar, Pandav Bhavan, stand up. All these are Abu residents, aren’t they? Which ones have been mentioned? Whether it is the residents of Pandav Bhavan, whether it is the residents of Gyan Sarovar, everyone stand up! The residents of Abu from ‘down’ and the residents of Pandav Bhavan from ‘up’, residents of Gyansarovar, all belong to the same Abu. Whether you are ‘down’ or ‘up’. So the residents of Abu say that BapDada does not give them love and remembrance (yaadpyaar). Whether they from ‘down’ or whether they are from ‘up’.

So, today (BapDada is remembering) especially the residents of Abu though there are four arms, special arms. They tell Dadi that she possesses many arms and how many arms do the residents of Abu have? Arey! It has been mentioned just now. Especially, the residents of Abu have four special arms. So there are four main arms. So BapDada is giving blessings for beginning the charity of service and congratulations. He is giving to the four arms. Fourth page of the Vani dated 16th November, 2006. Because no matter how many servers (sevadharis) have come, things cannot work without the residents of Abu. That is why the treasure box (bhandari) of your account of charity (punya) has opened. Whose treasure box of account of charity? The (treasure box of accounts of the) residents of Abu. To which zone do the residents of Abu belong? Do they belong to the Gujarat zone or the Rajasthan zone? They belong to the Rajasthan zone. So your treasure box of account of charity has opened. Now it would be seen, how much do you accumulate? What? Collection box (bhandari). Government gets that bhandari closed, does it not? What? If there is a lot of income tax due from someone, then, what does the Government do? It seals all the accounts. So, that Government gets the bhandari closed, does it not? So BapDada is opening the bhandari of charity. Bhandari of whose charity?

Those who are the residents of Abu, the residents of Abu. Whether they are from ‘down’ or from ‘up’. He is opening their bhandari. It means that even if the Government causes that bhandari to close. At the end of the shooting of Dwaparyug (Copper Age) in 1998, the bhandari had been closed in the Advance (Party), was it not? All the accounts had been sealed, were they not? So was it only the outside Government that was involved in getting those accounts closed or was there the involvement of the basic Governement of the world of Brahmins also? So, that Government gets the bhandari closed. So, BapDada is opening the bhandari of charity so that the world is left awestruck that - how do they get the money to spend so much? If a marriage party consisting of 100-200 persons comes for 1 or 2 days, then one has to make so much effort and here it is not the matter of one or two days, it is not the matter of one or two months, it is not the matter of one or two years. A long time has passed. Almost 8-10 years have passed in the repeated postponements of the cases (mukadmey or law suits). No decision is forthcoming. That too in criminal cases.

So BapDada is opening your bhandari of charity. That Government causes it to close and the unlimited Government is opening the bhandari of charity. The residents of Abu have the intoxication, have they not? They are happy, aren’t they? They keep accumulating charity while sitting at home. The bhandari keeps getting opened. There is no need to wander anywhere outside. Which zones are being addressed? Rajasthan and Indore zones are being addressed – the ones who live behind the doors. They do not wander anywhere outside. Otherwise, those so-called sages and monks keep wandering outside for food, clothing and accomodation and these (ones, who live behind the doors) need not wander outside. So, the residents of Abu have the intoxication, don't they? They have the happiness, don't they? They continue to accumulate charity while sitting at home. When you do service altruistically with love, your bhandari of charity continues to get full. It continues to get full automatically. There is no need to put anything into. It is only a matter of doing service with love. So, the one, who is in the heart is also at the hearth (chul). You are indeed in the heart as well as the frypan. You are on the hearth and also in the heart. Who? The residents of Abu. Now, how many heirs (vaarisdaar) have the residents of Abu made to emerge? The result (hisaab) would be asked, is it not?

Who is the instrument for up above? Who is ‘up above’ in the limited sense? Arey, what is ‘up above’ in the limited sense? ‘Up above’ means what? ‘Down below’ means Taleti and ‘Up above’ means Mount Abu. Who is the instrument up above (i.e. in Mount Abu)? For Pandav Bhavan. Why has it been said ‘up above’ for the Pandavas? It is because the Pandavas went to a high stage and died due to melting. So, whether it is the Abu in limited sense or the Abu in unlimited sense, who is instrumental for it? Who is instrumental? Mritunjay. Whose name has been uttered? There is someone with that name in limited sense also. And there must be someone in an unlimited sense also. Who is that? The one, who has gained victory over death. Both in limited and unlimited sense. Gaining victory over death in limited sense means that the main one among those who transform their bodies into kanchankaya and in the unlimited sense, it means the one who does not enter The Cycle of (birth and) death-like faith and faithlessness (nishchay-anishchay). The one who never meet the death of faithlessness. Who is Mrityunjay? Yes, Mrityunjay, you tell, how many heirs have been produced from the area of Abu? Or is it darkness beneath the lamp? What is it in the limited sense? Did anyone emerge from Mount Abu? Although outsiders have come to Abu and purchased houses, but nobody emerged from inside Abu and certainly someone must have emerged in the unlimited sense. So, how many heirs have emerged from the area of Abu? Have they emerged or do you still have to work it out? Now work out how many have emerged? OK, you have not worked out, so, you may narrate in the next turn (i.e. meeting).

And who is the instrument below (i.e.in Taleti)? He is the instrument for ‘up above’. Who? Mrityunjay Bhai and who is the instrument for down below? Someone said – Bhoopal Bhai. Bhoopal Bhai is the instrument for Taleti, which is in the limited sense. He is Bhoopal Bhai for namesake and who is Bhoopal in unlimited sense? (Someone said – the same one) The same person? No. ‘Bhoo’ means dharani, i.e. land and land means virgins and mothers and the one who takes care of those virgins and mothers in an unlimited sense. He is talking to Indore zone. He mixed it up with Rajasthan. So, would there be anyone to take care of the virgins and mothers also or not? The sustenance would keep taking place automatically. Someone must be the instrument, isn’t it? So, the name has been given – Bhoopaal Bhai. What does Bhoopaal Bhai mean in an unlimited sense? (Someone said – the one who protects the virgins and mothers) Not protection. The one, who makes arrangement for the food & dress and accomodation; the one who takes care both in the limited sense and in an unlimited sense.

Yes, how many heirs have emerged? 6 months are definitely over and everyone has done some service or another for this. You haven’t yet worked this out. OK, it does not matter. You must have remained very busy, that is why you you could not work it out. It would be asked in the next turn. If you haven’t worked it out, then work it out (now), because Abu is the Head quarters. So the news from the headquarters should also be head. It is good
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VCD* No.558, Audio Cassette No.1044, dated 12.11.06, Haripur

Clarification of Murli dated 30.5.67

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... Speaking to the Kumaris (virgins) from the Indore Hostel. All the Kumaris are praised to be greater than 100 Brahmins. Speaking to which Kumaris? Those who live in-door only. They are not seen venturing outside. You are not ordinary Kumaris. Those, who venture outside, jobholders, are ordinary Kumaris, who perform dogly service and what about you? You are not ordinary Kumaris; you are Brahmakumaris. So every Brahmakumari is praised to be greater than 100 Brahmins. So, how many students have you Kumaris made ready? Students, not heirs (vaarisdaar). What is being asked? How many students have you made ready? Or are you still just getting yourself ready? Speak! Where is your teacher? Whose teacher? Where is the teacher of the Indore hostel zone? Someone said – the hostel’s teacher is Sister Karuna and her assistant is Sister Shakuntala. Which Sisters? The names of two have been mentioned.

Names of how many Sisters have been mentioned now? Names of how many Sisters have been mentioned in this Vani? The name of Sister Sarla has been mentioned – the one who has made Gujarat her companion and Sister Karuna. What is the difference between Karuna and Sarla? What does karuna mean? Compassionate (dayaavaan). Where there is compassion there is religion. Where there is no compassion there cannot be the inculcation of religion (dharma) and will the one, who has an easy nature (sahaj swabhaav) have compassion or will a person with a harsh nature have compassion? The one who possesses an easy nature would be Sarla. There would be mercy (karuna). Otherwise, there would not be mercy also and there would not be compassion also and the second one is Sister Shakuntala. Shakuni means birds. The birds with the wings of knowledge and Yoga (remembrance). The one, who remains under the wings of knowledge and Yoga. One is a wing of knowledge and the other is the wing of remembrance; those who live under those wings.

Come to the front. What has been said? Who has been asked to come to the front? Remaining people may stay behind. Sister Karuna, come to the front and Sister Shakuntala come to the front. Achha, how many students have you made ready? It is not being asked about the heirs. What? It is not being asked about those who become heirs in the form of kings. What is being asked? How many students have you made ready? The matter about the heirs would be asked later on. How many students have you made ready? Tell the average figure. It is good.

When you Kumaris are ready, will you look after the centers or will you get a job? What is this? ‘Looking after the center’ is an internal matter and then ‘getting a job’; so, which place does it pertain? It pertains to the outside. What hint has been given? Will you look after the center or will you get a job? Those who are getting ready to look after the center, raise your hands. These are many of you. Many might have raised their hands. So when will their training finish? Someone said – they are still studying. Till when will you study? Those who have completed their graduation, raise your hands. There are three or four. Will only these three or four look after a center? Or will you work? Or will you do both? Brother Omprakash said – Until now there are about 450 Kumaris who have completed their studies and are now looking after centers. They have studied at the Indore hostel. They have studied in a limited sense and they are taking care of the centers in a limited sense. How many? 450, four hundred and fifty. So in a limited sense this is the case. Then, will there be (Kumaris) in the advance (party) also or not? How many? What was the number in the beginning of the Yagya too? 300-400. Even now what is the number that has been mentioned? Four hundred and fifty. So, are they still studying or are they looking after the centers after having completed their studies? Are they studying? Are they not looking after the centers? And are there any such ones, who might be thinking about looking after a center – I have completed my studies, now I should go and look after a center. Call it a center or a Gitapathshala; then it is good. What is nice? If they look after a Gitapathshala or a center then it is nice. They become ‘hands’, don’t they? So congratulations to teachers.

All of you, who have come today – are you content with your efforts (purusharth)? It is a big achievement. What? If someone becomes content with ones efforts in this tamopradhan (degraded) shooting period, then is it a big achievement or a small achievement? It is a big achievement. Are you content with your efforts? Are you content with your study? Yes? Or are you new ones, who have just come? Are you new or are you old? Do you remain happy? Do you remain content? Achha, prepare (good) hands because the time is short, the service is more. A lot of service has to be done. You have a song also – you organize the programme titled ‘samay kee pukaar’ (the call of the time) also. So the call of the time is very much for the teachers; Therefore get them ready quick. Remain happy and continue to fly in happiness. Omshanti.
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VCD* No.600, Dated 19.01.07, Tadepalligudem

Clarification of Murli dated 6.7.67 & 10.7.67

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Omshanti. The night class dated sixth July, 1967 is going on. It is also good to organize a court (kachahari). It is also good; Then it is also good not to organize it because if someone speaks untruth, if someone does not speak the truth, then those who lie, would accrue hundred times punishment. BapDada tells those children, who have come to BapDada to get refreshed that - If there is any doubt, if you have not understood anything, if there is anything in your mind which you wish to ask, and if one does not ask that question, then one causes loss to himself/herself. It is better to depart only after removing the doubt. If one goes back with a doubtful intellect (sanshaybuddhi) even after coming in front of the Father, then that doubt would keep expanding in the outside world; then one would develop an opposite intellect. One should never keep garbage inside one's mind. Otherwise, the thorn (kaantaa) of doubt would remain embedded inside. That thorn of doubt would cause a lot of pain in the kingdom of Ravan from the Copper Age.

Anyone should not go back and tell that - we could not meet Baba. Baba organizes a court in a packed gathering (bhari sabha). One must take out all the garbage. If there is any personal matter, then one should give it in writing. There are few children. One can ask anything that he/she wants to ask. There should not be any doubt inside. Otherwise, one would keep piercing others' hearts with that doubt, that thorn. If one keeps spreading garbage here and there and the sin would keep increasing in the mind also and one would fill others also with sins. If one is unable to understand anything, then one can ask again and again. The Father says - I am the servant of children. There is nothing wrong in asking questions.

I have come as a servant of the children to purify the children. Cleanliness is required inside out. I would make you pure and take you along, wouldn't I? One would certainly have to become pure to become the master of the pure world. Speaking a lie, diverting any matter - that also becomes a sin in front of the Father. If there is any such lie, if it causes somebody's welfare (kalyaan), then that is not a lie.

You children are now becoming swargwaasi (i.e. residents of heaven). Becoming residents of heaven means living in the self-stage (swa sthiti, i.e. soul consciousness). There should not be any kind of wasteful thinking about others (parchintan). You are making efforts to achieve true salvation (sadgati). If any garbage remains inside, then the soul would undergo degradation (durgati). Nobody ever makes efforts to become swargwaasi (resident of heaven). For namesake, they say that a particular person has left for the heavenly abode. People say like this in the world, don't they? - that someone has departed for the heavenly abode. Now you don't do like this. You are making efforts to become swargwaasi.

Children feel that - we have come to BapDada to follow the Shrimat. Now a few children come. In future many children would keep coming. People of other religions would also receive BapDada's drishti. Break all the relationships of the body and remember your Father. Here in this world everyone is in the Shokvaatika (the garden where Ravan had confined Sita after abducting her; in literal sense it means an abode of sorrows) of Ravan. There is nobody in this hellish world who does not remain immersed in sorrows. For half a Kalpa it is shok vaatika and for half a Kalpa it is ashok vaatika (an abode of joy). The Golden Age is total ashok vatikaa. There is no question of sorrows at all there. Ashok means one who does not experience any sorrow. Here in this world one definitely experiences sorrow in some or the other matter. There would be sorrow even if anyone falls sick.

Now the children know that - we go to the abode of prosperity (sukhdhaam). Now we are lying in the abode of sorrows (dukhdhaam). There is very little time to go to the sukhdhaam. We have to prepare the bag and baggage. One would not be able to transfer everything. All the buildings etc. which exist, would get destroyed. You children know that - we had come naked earlier and even now we have to return naked. Human beings have developed so much love for their bodies that they have considered themselves to be a body only. While remaining in the company of the bodily beings through their intellect they become body conscious. They do not even know - what is a soul. You children also do not remain in remembrance always. Because of not being in remembrance of the soul continuously, one is not even able to explain to others. One must keep it in the mind that - in this body the soul remains in a high stage. That stage, that organ is named - uttamaang (the highest organ). The middle of the forehead (bhrikuti) is called uttamaang and the tilak is also applied on the forehead. When the tilak of coronation is applied, a teeka (a vermillion mark) is applied on the forehead. This teeka is a sign of being constant in the remembrance of the soul. A soul is like a star, which is lodged in the middle of the forehead. The Father says - I am also a star. I too come and become lodged in the middle of the forehead. I am also said to be - Param aatma (Supreme Soul), the resident of the Soul World.

You children should feel very joyful. We receive imperishable wealth from the imperishable Father. All other fathers in the world get destroyed. Their property (milkiyat) also gets destroyed. It is the imperishable Father who has come. He gives us the imperishable property for many births. Now we have come to achieve firm attainments (pakki praapti) for 21 births from the Father. This is the only true income that we would carry with us. Now you children depart with your hands full. Which hands? You fill your intellect-like hands and depart. Now your jholi (bag) is getting filled nicely
...(to be continued)
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.600, Dated 19.01.07, Tadepalligudem

Clarification of Murli dated 6.7.67 & 10.7.67

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... In the path of worship people go in front of Shankar and say that – fill up my jholi (a cloth stretched out to collect something or a bag to seek alms) fill my jholi. Now the one who fills up the jholi is the Father. Not Shankar. Had Shankar been the one to fill up the jholi, then, in whose remembrance does he remain? He is sitting in remembrance, he is sitting in soul consciousness. It means that he too gets his jholi filled by the Father. He is the Father of the souls. There is a Father of the human world also, isn’t it? The children obtain inheritance from the Father only. Who is the Father of the entire world and who is the Father of the souls? The Father of the souls is 'Shiv'. ‘Shiv’ causes welfare (kalyaan) of the souls who remain in a soul conscious stage and those souls, which are unable to attain the soul conscious stage, those who remain in body consciousness only, those who come and receive drishti from the Father, but are not ready to accept the true form of the Father, as He is, in whichever form He is playing a part, such body conscious human beings obtain their attainments (praapti) from the Father of the human world. There is nobody in the human world, who can cause an income like the imperishable Father. Souls become kings in different religions; that is also a temporary (alpakaal) attainment.

When India was a heaven, then there was unlimited prosperity in that heaven. There was a dynasty of Lakshmi and Narayan. After that there was a dynasty of Ramchandra also. Those who become Lakshmi and Narayan become Ram and Sita also. They become numberwise Lakshmi and Narayan and they become numberwise Ram and Sita. So, Lakshmi & Narayan and Ram & Sita are together said to constitute heaven because the souls in both the ages attain the soul conscious stage numberwise. This is a hell and that is a heaven. Swa means soul. Golden Age means ‘went’. In which kind of a stage did he/she go? He/she went into a stage of soul consciousness. And this is a hell (narak). Nar means human being. All the human beings, even if it is the Father of the mankind, i.e. Prajapita, everyone is body conscious. One can attain only the kingship of the hell through the body conscious human beings, body conscious men. One cannot achieve the imperishable kingship of the heaven. In the hell, even the kings have some or the other sorrow or pain. In the heaven, there is no pain. There is no sorrow. Now you have understood all the matters.

The incorporeal one is called – incorporeal knowledgeful. Incorporeal (niraakaari), viceless (nirvikaari) and egoless (nirahankaari). There is no ego of the body. He alone is the ocean of knoweldge and that incorporeal Father alone explains the secrets of the beginning, middle and end of the world. The one who explains is not any other Father. The Father who explains us, gives us inheritance (varsaa) in the form of Baba. Father is the Father of the souls. He enters into the permanent Chariot (mukarrar rath). So, he is called Baba along with the body. You children obtain inheritance from Baba. You obtain inheritance from Baba and who snatches your inheritance? You obtain inheritance from one Baba and you lose the inheritance because of the ten-headed Ravan. Ravan snatches your inheritance. So, now one should step forward to make such efforts that Ravan cannot snatch your inheritance. If we follow the opinion of Ravan, then the inheritance would be snatched away. If you follow the opinion of one Ram, then you would achieve the inheritance. Ravan snatches the inheritance; then he makes you cry; so he is called Ravan. The Father Ram gives you inheritance; so you feel joyful. Even the thoughts (of inheritance) cause joy to you.

You are yogis, aren’t you? In the path of worship it is also said ‘ramyatey yogino yasminit Raam.” The one who wanders among the yogis is Ram. It is a matter of wandering in the remembrance only. For example people play; so, is there joy in a game or is there sorrow? This is also a game of remembrance. The emergence of thought itself causes pleasure. So, how much pleasure would one get by meeting, observing practically, talking practically!

So, now you children should march forward in making efforts (purushaarth). In which matter? Purushaarth means 'in order to cause the upliftment of the soul'. Purush means soul. You must now march forward for spritual attainments, not for the attainments of the body. The connection of this body is only with one birth. Whatever attainment is to be achieved in this one birth would be achieved on the basis of the actions of the past births. The Father cannot do anything in that. That is why He says - I have come to give the inheritance of the future 21 births. So, one must not desire for temporary attainments from the Father. He has come to cause permanent attainments.

If you wish, you can ask anything. One must also ask questions and definitely study The Knowledge which the Father teaches. One must never leave the studies also and one must also never leave the remembrance of the Father. If you leave the study, if you do not remain regular in the studies, if you do not remain punctual, then you would cause harm to yourself. One must not cause loss to self. One must tolerate disrespect, etc. everything for this. One has the experience, is not it? When we go to study this Godly knoweldge, then one has to tolerate so much disrespect and deal with loss of honour among people (loklaaj). Friends, relatives and people living around the house ridicule, but you have a lot of attainments, don't you? In comparison to the immeasurable (akhoot/akoot) attainments, this respect & disrespect is temporary. Whatever anyone may say, one should listen from one ear and leave it through the other.

In this condition the more you move forward, the more you can accumulate. If you go on accumulating, it means that you continue to win. Otherwise you would keep suffering losses. The Father says - you remain very prosperous for not just 21 births but for 50-60 births. If you deduct 21 births from 60 births, then how many remain? 39. It means that even in the hellish world of the Copper and Iron Ages you remain very prosperous. 21 births of the heaven and 39-40 births of the hell. You experience so much pleasure
...(to be continued)
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Post05 Jul 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.600, Dated 19.01.07, Tadepalligudem

Clarification of Murli dated 6.7.67 & 10.7.67

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......You know that - one has to make so much effort to become the master of the world. One must become busy in this study. Very good devotion (lagan) is required. You know that - ShivBaba is one; so His scripture should also be one. Human beings keep reading a lot of scriptures. You have only one scripture.

Human beings keep the pictures of many and you should have only one living picture (chaitanya chitra) in the intellect. Now you children know that - there are multimillions in our steps. That is why the Father says - you are padmaapadam bhaagyashaali (multimillion times fortunate). They say - saubhaagyashaali (fortunate). How bhagyashali (fortunate)? Sau bhagyashaali (i.e. hundred times fortunate) and the Father says you are multimillion times fortunate. Multimillions (padam) are not in gross form. This is also a praise of the path of worship. You know that - now we are becoming the masters of the world. BapDada's remembrance and love and goodnight to the children. Omshanti.

Today's morning class is dated 10th July, 1967. The record played is - ye kaun aaya aaj saverey-saverey? (Who has arrived so early in the morning today?) The Father sits and explains to the sweet spiritual children. To whom? To the spiritual children. If there is body consciousness, then they would not be sweet. If there is soul consciousness (roohaniyat), then they would certainly be sweet. The Father sits and explains leisurely to such sweet children. He does not explain while standing, running and walking. What does He do? The Father sits and explains.

Why has it been said that - The Father sits and explains? The Father who sits and explains here in the Confluence Age; performs which shooting of the path of worship? Arey! does He perform any shooting or not? Which shooting? What is the name given to Him in the path of worship? The only difference is that - here the Supreme Soul Father enters and there in the Copper Age the Supreme Soul does not enter; but the shooting takes place here. The Father sits and explains; that is why in the Copper Age he gets a name - Vyaas. Vi means vishesh, i.e. special. 'Aas' means 'sitting'. He especially sits in an asana for this purpose; but what is the difference? Here the Supreme Soul is present and there the Supreme Soul is not present. Only in the Confluence Age the power that the Father of the human world has imbibed by connecting the thread of remembrance (with the Supreme Soul), that power alone proves useful.

There are some such children, whose power starts reducing from the Copper Age itself; they become weak. The power of the soul gets destroyed and the souls belonging to the other religions, which come from above (i.e. the Supreme Abode), enter into them. For example, when do even the ghosts and devils (bhoot-prait) enter? Do they enter into a powerful person or in a weak one? The soul enters into someone who becomes weak. Similarly, some souls become so weak from the Copper Age itself that - the souls belonging to Islam, the souls belonging to Buddhism, the souls belonging to Christianity coming from above enter into them numberwise and make them their subordinates (adheen) and some are so powerful that - the religious fathers coming from above and the souls of their followers cannot enter into them. When they enter, they make them subordinate and the ones in whom they cannot enter, they wage a war, they clash.

In the scriptures of India also there was truth at the beginning of the Copper Age. Everything in the world is initially pure (satopradhaan) and in the end it becomes impure (tamopradhaan). The truth that existed in the scriptures in the beginning, that truth was known to the writers of the scriptures. Until he/she was alive there was no need for its interpretation. Later, different kinds of human beings interpreted those scriptures. They explained in different ways; so, the world went on becoming dualistic. One opinion gave rise to two; two opinions gave rise to four; four opinions gave rise to eight; a kingdom of ten headed Ravan gets established. Even now the Father says - if you listen from 'one' then it is an unadulterated knowledge (avyabhichaari gyaan) and if you listen from many, then it would become adulterated knowledge (vyabhichaari gyaan). It would become The Knowledge of Ravan. So the Father sits and explains to the children and he is also giving ideas (yuktiyaan) for remembrance. If The Knowledge becomes adulterated, then the remembrance also becomes adulterated. If the unadulterated knowledge remains in the intellect and if one does not pay attention to anyone else’s versions, if one hears through one ear and leaves it through the other, then what would be the result? The remembrance would also be unadulterated, i.e. the remembrance of one Father. One Father and none else.

Now the children are sitting. Children are thinking that - ShivBaba should speak something. ShivBaba comes; suppose He sits in front of the children silently for half an hour and does not speak anything, then the soul within you would say - Baba should speak something. You know in your mind that ShivBaba is present in him, but He is not speak anything. So think that this is also your journey of remembrance. There is remembrance of ShivBaba in the intellect because it is contained in the intellect that Shiv is sitting in him. So within your mind you think that Baba should speak something, He should give the gems of knowledge.

The Father comes only to give the gems of knowledge to you children. Why does He come? Does He come to give the gems of knowledge? Does He not come to purify the sinful ones? (Someone said- Knowledge means to remain pure) Does knowledge mean 'to remain pure'? If one does not obtain knowledge at all, if one does not give knowledge at all, then the realization of the Father would not be possible. Neither would there be realization of the Father, nor would there be realization of Ravan; then sometimes one would keep listening from Ravan and sometimes one would keep listening from Ram; so, The Knowledge would keep becoming adulterated (vyabhichaari); that is why when the Father comes, He first of all gives His introduction. He gives the introduction of the world; He narrates The Knowledge of the beginning, middle and end. Whatever human beings speak - is it knowledge or ignorance? It would certainly be said that it is ignorance
....(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Re: Extracts of PBK Murlis - as narrated to the PBKs

Post06 Jul 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.600, Dated 19.01.07, Tadepalligudem

Clarification of Murli dated 6.7.67 & 10.7.67

Ref. No.VCD*.
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....What was the result of whatever was spoken by the human gurus since 2500 years? Did the mind and intellect-like souls achieve true salvation (sadgati) or degradation (durgati)? What is the proof for the degradation of the intellect having taken place? The scientists would say – Look, so many big palaces and multistoried buildings are getting constructed, aeroplanes are getting built. True salvation is being caused; where is the degradation taking place? Will it be said to be degradation? Whatever is getting constructed, that pomp and show of Maya exists in the last 200 years of this world of kingdom of Ravan of 2500 years duration or does it exist for 2500 years? At the most for just 200 years and even in those 200 years, this progress of pomp and show that is being witnessed, what is the percentage of people who are getting benefitted from it? How many people of the world might be roaming around the world in aeroplanes? There are 500-700 crore human beings. What percentage of the population gets benefitted? Only the people who control (others) forcibly like Ravan are getting benefitted. Those who are innocent, lead a truthful life, earn honestly, cannot become millionaires (karodpati) in today’s world. Secondly, whatever pomp and show of Maya we observe, through which the intellect of the human being keeps getting mesmerized; does that consist more of the means (saadhan) of destruction or the means of construction? More percentage of the power of the body and the power of wealth has been used in which task? It has been used more in the means of destruction. So the intellect of the human beings would be said to be degraded (taamsi). The intellect has no doubt become sharp (teekhi), but has it become sharp for destruction or has it become sharp for the establishment of heaven? In the heaven, everyone experiences pleasure; nobody is sorrowful and in the hell, very few are prosperous for name sake and the rest are sorrowful.

So, your intellect knows that – whatever the human beings explain, whatever they narrate is causing the degradation of souls of the world. The true salvation of the intellect is not being caused. So, certainly it would be said that it is ignorance (agyaan) alone that is spreading. Father is an ocean of knowledge, isn’t He? He would say – O children! Remain soul conscious and remember the Father. This is knowledge. It is a very simple knowledge. The Father says – Remember this cycle of drama and remember The Ladder. This is also knowledge. Whatever He would explain, whatever He would speak; suppose He talks to a child, that is also knowledge. That would also be called Murli. When He speaks to the children, does it not constitute Murli? That is also Murli. He keeps explaining about the journey of remembrance (Yaad kee yatra) also. So all these are gems of knowledge. Whatever matter of remembrance He explains, those gems are very good. What has been said? Whatever He explains about the beginning, middle and end of the world is also good, but what is very good? Whatever He explains about the journey of remembrance are very good gems. All these are gems of knowledge.

The Father says that – remember your 84 births. What? How far is The Knowledge going to expand? Every soul must recollect the part of its many births. Father would not sit and narrate the part of each and every one. Whatever part of many births is contained in the seed-like soul, would be experienced by that soul first. All those souls which had been living as its companions and accomplices in many births would experience first; that is why it is said that remember your 84 births – ‘what am I, the soul?’ It is not enough to know that – “I am a soul; you are a soul; we are Brothers. A soul is a point of light.” No. One must delve deep in to the ocean of knowledge.

Now you know that we had come naked, and we have to return naked only. There should not be any bodyconsciousness in us. We had come in a pure form and we have to return after becoming pure. If the garbage of thinking about others (parchintan), thinking about the body, thinking about the bodily relationships, thinking about the things related to the body remains in the soul, then impurity would remain in the soul. Impure soul would not be able to take complete 84 births. Because of the remnant body consciousness, the number of births would get reduced.

You children have to attain a karmateet stage. Which stage? One should keep performing actions through the bodily organs, but the mind and intellect should remain detached from the effects of those actions. There should not be any influence of any of the actions. We would achieve such karmaateet stage in the same birth. Those who attain such stage would be called pakka deities who take 84 births.

If action is performed through any bodily organ, if one comes in the company of anyone and if one gets influenced by the company, if one keeps recollecting him/her, then it is as if the bodyconsciousness has cast its influence – such a life would not be called ‘lotus-like’ (kamal fool samaan). For example, there is the lotus flower; it remains immersed in dirty water (keechar), and if you take it out (of water) then not even a drop of dirty water remains on it. Such a karmaateet stage is required; that is why deities are given a seat of lotus.

Complete Brahmins are called complete deities. Those who attain karmaateet stage, would attain complete inheritance from the Father and that inheritance would also be received only when the soul becomes pure (satopradhan) through the power of remembrance. These words are very valuable. One must note them down. The inculcation takes place in the soul only. This body consists of organs. When this body gets destroyed, these organs would also get destroyed. You record good or bad sanskars in the soul for many births. This body would not accompany you. The Father has filled the sanskars in your soul. The sanskar of knowledge of the beginning, middle and end of the world is contained, that is why the Father is called knowledgeful and The Knowledge is also of two kinds. One is Godly knowledge and the other is demoniac knowledge.

One is The Knowledge of scriptures, i.e. knowledge of Bhakti. Here, there is no question of the scriptures. Bhakti is going to be murdaabaad (down, down). The Father explains – whatever has been written in the scriptures is all wrong. There is truth equal to the quantity of salt in wheat flour (i.e. very little truth), which the Father comes and narrates. One should churn (aalodan) in the mind and intellect about that truth only and what is the use of going into the matters of the expanse (vistaar) of scriptures? Although the Father has said that – you can tally whatever has been written in Gita, Bhaagwat, Ramayan with the Confluence Age. He did not say that – you have to tally. What did He say? You can tally. If you tally, then you would go into its expanse. If you present before others, The Knowledge that has been tallied, then people would also develop the faith that certainly this knowledge is true. Those who have special faith on the scriptures would open their eyes; but along with that they would also develop faith (shraddha) on the person who tallies that Godly knowledge with the scriptures. He would keep getting respect and position and that respect and position would cause his downfall; that is why it has been said – if you wish you can tally the matters of the Confluence Age with Ramayan, with Bhaagwat, with the Mahabharata. He has not said that we have to tally.

Then Baba would tell the right things only. The Cycle of 84 births is very easy. Now this cycle of 84 births is about to finish. Now we have to go back. Before going back, The Knowledge of The Cycle of 84 births should fit into the intellect of every soul. If they have taken 84 births, then the 84 births should come into the intellect. If they have taken lesser number of births, then the soul should remember the part of lesser number of births. As for the rest, an unclean soul (maili aatma) cannot return there. If there is some garbage, if there is dirt in the mind; there are mirrors, isn’t it? If the mirror (sheesha) is covered by dust then, can anyone see his/her face? This is also the mirror of the mind & intellect-like soul. No dust should remain inside it. If there is anything inside, it should be disgorged in front of the Father; that is why the Father says – I want clean-hearted children. The Master remains pleased with those with a true heart (sachhey dil par saahib raazi). Omshanti.
(Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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