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andrey

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Gita

Post13 Oct 2006

In the beginning of the Yagya, the Gita from the baktimarg use to be studied and explained. Baba has said in the end it would be the same. There is no controversy over the matter who has spoken through Brahma Baba - Shiva the Supreme Soul, but He does not play the role of God through him and does not narrate the true Gita. Why?

Shivsena Bhai has ponted that in the Murlis it is said that we should always say "Trimurti Shivjayanti". Shiva is Trimurti and this birthday of Trimurti Shiva is the birthday of the Bhagavad Gita. (These thoughts are based on Revised Murli 19.4.04). The first murti is Brahma, Vishnu is not a separate deity, he is Brahma in his perfect stage. Then comes Shankar. So these figures if they come in our mind ... then it is said that there is a difference between the Gita of the baktimarg and the Gita of gyanmarg.

The Gita of Bhaktimarg is written by Human beings. The Gita of gyanmarg is spoken directly through the mouth. Through the Gita of Bhaktimarg the world becomes hell. Through the true Gita of knowledge the heavenly world is created.

The Gita spoken through BB is the Gita of the path of devotion because it has only been spoken - narrated. In the quoted Murli it is said that no one can meet me through sacrificial fires; devotion and the Gita is included in this. We know we can meet him when he himself comes and introduces himself. But he came in BB.

It is said there is difference between the Gita of Shiva and that of Krisha (in the same Murli). That through the true Gita there is the day, one does not have to study it again. So is there the day after the Gita through BB? Why do we study again? The role of the God of the Gita of knowledge, of explaning, of the Father, the Teacher and the Satguru is played through the soul of the Father Ram. The soul of Krishan is a child, he studies even now. Trimurti Shivayanti cannot be said when Shiva has come in BB, because it has not been in the mind of anyone which are the three murtis.

So what was created with the Gita through BB? The world became more of a hell. One can say OK so what has been created with the true guta of Shiv-Shankar - where is heaven? If it is knowledge then it is matter of understanding and explaining, so the whole world must know, it is not that some few persons does their own hidden bakti. And the role of the corporeal body of BB ended. Now we have a living Chariot.

It is also mentioned that those who listen even two words form Me...they will reach Heaven...does it mean directly?...or those who just listen to the words of knowledge narrated by someone else...i think it means directly...i also think these two words are Manmanabhav and Madhijajibhav
The first murti is Brahma, Vishnu is not a separate deity, he is Brahma in his perfect stage. Then comes Shankar. So these figures if they come in our mind ...

But this way they become only two murtis. Brahma is said to have five faces, five mouths, but two of team repeat themselves and are one and the same - the Brahma from the beginning with the Father are the two that reapeat and are also at the end, and then BB is in the middle, so in totally they become three.
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Post12 Nov 2006

True Gita causes true salvation and the false Gita causes degradation.


The God of Gita creates the Gita. He speaks it, but as we know everything is eternal, He does not create it from nothing. Gita is eternal. He adopts it and transforms it. Gita is not a book but a living soul. When this soul is under the control of human beings, it falls apart, the whole world becomes hell and when this same Gita comes under the control of one God, it becomes the true Gita pure Gita an becomes one again.
How it is that it causes salvation? Is it not God that causes salvation? Why is the name of the Gita put? In the Murlis it is said that I give the inheritance through Brahma. There is a mother in between. There is mention of the cow that fulfills everyone’s desires. This living cow is Jagadaba, the Mother of the World. no one can be a mother of her and no one can get salvation without the mother guru. When this mother guru is capable, under the control of God, follows Shrimat, follows only one direction, than she is capable to uplift the whole world, and open the gates of heaven. Then when this same soul becomes weak and degraded, under the influence of many human beings she causes all human beings to fall in hell.

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