Discussion CD No.248, dated 28.01.07 at Calcutta
Kisi Bhai nay kaha: Amrit Vela nahee uthtey.
Baba nay kaha: Ghar may ladka hospitalize ho jaaye, patnee hospitalize ho jaaye toh amritveley neend aayegi? (Kisi mata nay kaha: Voh toh ek din kay liye Baba) Ek din kay liye? Ye bhi toh ek janma bhi nahee hai, aadha janma bhi nahee hai, chauthaai janma hai. Kahin naukari mil jaaye achhi khaasi (Kisi nay kaha: night duty) night duty may amritveley ki duty kee toh neend aayegi? Iska matlab us naukari say jo praapti honi hai, us say bhi kam praapti vala samajhtey ho. (Kisi mata nay kaha: Nahee, jyada hai) Jyada hai toh lekin practical may result kya hai?
Kisi Bhai nay kaha: Baba, jo Amrit Vela nahee kartey hain unka kya 84janma kam ho jaayega?
Baba nay kaha: Kahtey hain Parmatma Baap say hamaarey sarva sambandh hain. Kya? Mataen bhi kahtee hain hamara bachha hai. Bhai log bhi kahtey hain hamaarey sarva sambandh hain. Jaisey Baap aakar kay is sansaar may uski kapori haalat hoti hai aisi haalat agar bachchey kee ho jaaye toh neend aayegi? Hm? Fir. Iska matlab sarva sambandh nibhaaye hain? (Kisi nay kaha: Achha Baba) Achha Baba. (Kisi nay kaha: ... Doh saptaah uthtey-uthtey fir so jaatey hain. Isko kya hoga?...) Jo ek saptaah, do saptaah jiskee practice ban jaayegi, jiski practice ban jaayegi ek saptaah bhi lagaataar jagney kee voh practice toh pakki ho jaayegi. (Kisi mata nay kaha: Lekin hota nahee hai) Ek saptaah bhi agar ban jaavegi (Kisi mata nay kaha: Ek hafta, doh hafta uthkay dekha fir bhi….) Uthkay baithney kee baat nahee hai. (Kisi nay kuch kaha) Avastha bhi baney. Uthkay baithney kee kya baat hai? Ye toh koi badee baat nahee hai. Lekin man ko control karney kee baat hai na.
A Brother said: I do not get up at Amrit Vela.
Baba said: If the son at home becomes hospitalized, if the wife becomes hospitalized, then will one be able to sleep at Amrit Vela? (A mother said: That is for one day, Baba) For one day? Even this is not even for one birth, not even for half a birth, it is just one fourth birth. If one gets a nice job somewhere (Someone said: night duty) The duty of Amrit Vela during the night duty, then would one fall asleep? It means that we feel that this (Amrit Vela) causes lesser attainments than the attainments to be achieved through that job. (A mother said: No, it is more than that) It is indeed more, but what is the practical result?
A Brother asked: Baba, will those who do not practice Amrit Vela, take less than 84 births?
Baba said: Children say that all our relationships are with the Supreme Soul Father. What? The mothers also say that He is our child. Brothers also say: all our relationships are with Him. The bad condition which the Father reaches after coming in this world, if the condition of any child becomes like that, then will one fall asleep? Hm? Then? It means that – have you maintained all the relationships? (Someone said: Achha Baba) Achha Baba. (Someone said: ....Some people wake up for two weeks, and then start sleeping. What would it be called?) The one who practices waking up for a week, two weeks; the one who practices waking up regularly even for a week, that practice would become strong. (A mother said: But it does not happen like that) If it is practiced even for a week. (A mother said: I tried waking up for a week or two, even then…..) It is not just a question of waking up. (Someone said something) The stage should also develop. What is the big deal in waking up and sitting? It is not a big issue. But it is a matter about controlling the mind.
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Note:- The Hindi and English versions of the extracts of above mentioned Discussion CD are just draft versions.
Kisi Bhai nay kaha: Amrit Vela nahee uthtey.
Baba nay kaha: Ghar may ladka hospitalize ho jaaye, patnee hospitalize ho jaaye toh amritveley neend aayegi? (Kisi mata nay kaha: Voh toh ek din kay liye Baba) Ek din kay liye? Ye bhi toh ek janma bhi nahee hai, aadha janma bhi nahee hai, chauthaai janma hai. Kahin naukari mil jaaye achhi khaasi (Kisi nay kaha: night duty) night duty may amritveley ki duty kee toh neend aayegi? Iska matlab us naukari say jo praapti honi hai, us say bhi kam praapti vala samajhtey ho. (Kisi mata nay kaha: Nahee, jyada hai) Jyada hai toh lekin practical may result kya hai?
Kisi Bhai nay kaha: Baba, jo Amrit Vela nahee kartey hain unka kya 84janma kam ho jaayega?
Baba nay kaha: Kahtey hain Parmatma Baap say hamaarey sarva sambandh hain. Kya? Mataen bhi kahtee hain hamara bachha hai. Bhai log bhi kahtey hain hamaarey sarva sambandh hain. Jaisey Baap aakar kay is sansaar may uski kapori haalat hoti hai aisi haalat agar bachchey kee ho jaaye toh neend aayegi? Hm? Fir. Iska matlab sarva sambandh nibhaaye hain? (Kisi nay kaha: Achha Baba) Achha Baba. (Kisi nay kaha: ... Doh saptaah uthtey-uthtey fir so jaatey hain. Isko kya hoga?...) Jo ek saptaah, do saptaah jiskee practice ban jaayegi, jiski practice ban jaayegi ek saptaah bhi lagaataar jagney kee voh practice toh pakki ho jaayegi. (Kisi mata nay kaha: Lekin hota nahee hai) Ek saptaah bhi agar ban jaavegi (Kisi mata nay kaha: Ek hafta, doh hafta uthkay dekha fir bhi….) Uthkay baithney kee baat nahee hai. (Kisi nay kuch kaha) Avastha bhi baney. Uthkay baithney kee kya baat hai? Ye toh koi badee baat nahee hai. Lekin man ko control karney kee baat hai na.
A Brother said: I do not get up at Amrit Vela.
Baba said: If the son at home becomes hospitalized, if the wife becomes hospitalized, then will one be able to sleep at Amrit Vela? (A mother said: That is for one day, Baba) For one day? Even this is not even for one birth, not even for half a birth, it is just one fourth birth. If one gets a nice job somewhere (Someone said: night duty) The duty of Amrit Vela during the night duty, then would one fall asleep? It means that we feel that this (Amrit Vela) causes lesser attainments than the attainments to be achieved through that job. (A mother said: No, it is more than that) It is indeed more, but what is the practical result?
A Brother asked: Baba, will those who do not practice Amrit Vela, take less than 84 births?
Baba said: Children say that all our relationships are with the Supreme Soul Father. What? The mothers also say that He is our child. Brothers also say: all our relationships are with Him. The bad condition which the Father reaches after coming in this world, if the condition of any child becomes like that, then will one fall asleep? Hm? Then? It means that – have you maintained all the relationships? (Someone said: Achha Baba) Achha Baba. (Someone said: ....Some people wake up for two weeks, and then start sleeping. What would it be called?) The one who practices waking up for a week, two weeks; the one who practices waking up regularly even for a week, that practice would become strong. (A mother said: But it does not happen like that) If it is practiced even for a week. (A mother said: I tried waking up for a week or two, even then…..) It is not just a question of waking up. (Someone said something) The stage should also develop. What is the big deal in waking up and sitting? It is not a big issue. But it is a matter about controlling the mind.
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Note:- The Hindi and English versions of the extracts of above mentioned Discussion CD are just draft versions.