New World wrote:PBKs also believe that 1st couple of (Golden Aged) Lakshmi and Narayan is 16 celestial degree complete. But they don't say anything about celestial degrees of confluence aged Lakshmi and Narayan.
The words 16 celestial degrees are said in reference to the moon. It is a simple astronomical fact that the brightness of the moon varies but the brightness of the Sun remains constant. Sun does not become full Sun or half Sun but the there is definitely half moon and full moon. In Gyan, the kalaa (or celestial degrees) refers to the power of the soul or divinity of the soul. When the soul is 8 celestial degrees, then it is half moon or 50% divine or has 50% power. And when the soul is 16 celestial degrees complete, then it is equivalent to full moon.
Since the brightness of the moon (analogous to power of soul) deceases or increases, we can measure it's brightness or we can say that today the moon is less bright or more bright i.e. the soul is less or more powerful. But since the Sun is always bright , we cannot measure the brightness of the Sun.We cannot say that today the Sun is less bright or more bright.So, we can say that brightness of the Sun is beyond measurement. In reference to kalaa of the soul, we say that it is kalaa-atit, i.e. kalaa of the soul cannot be measured like the brightness of the Sun. So, who is more powerful ? The Sun or the Moon. Definitely,Sun is more powerful.
So, the confluence aged Lakshmi-Narayan obtain direct inheritance of Heaven from the Gyan Surya Supreme Soul.They are the direct children of the Gyan Surya Baap.Since they are the direct children, their power of soul is defined as kalaa-atit, i.e. their kalaa cannot be measured since they take direct divine birth from from the Sun of Knowledge - the brightness of Sun does not change.
Whereas, the Laxmi-Narayan of Satyug are 16 celestial degrees complete, since they do not take birth directly from the Sun of Knowledge. They are the souls who belong to the moon dynasty and therefore, their kalaa can be measured. Instead they take birth from more powerful souls, i.e. Sangamyugi Laxmi-Narayan. Sangamyugi Laxmi-Narayan are Kalaa-atit and satyugi Laxmi-Narayan are 16 celestial degrees complete. So, since Sun is more powerful then moon, the Sangamyugi Lakshmi-Narayan (children of Sun dynasty who are kalaa-atit ...because brightness of Sun cannot be measured) are more powerful then Satyugi Laxmi-Narayan (children of moon dynasty who are 16 celestial degrees complete --- since their kalaa can be measured like the moon).
Murli points:
1) Lakshmi -Narayan Vishwa ke malik they, Satyug ke nahi. (Lakshmi-Narayan were the World Emperor and World Emperess, and not of Golden Age). Sakar Murli ... 19/12/1969
2) Ooch te Ooch Baap sein ooch te ooch varsa milta hai. Wah hai hi Bhagwan.Phir second number mein hai Laxmi- Narayan Satyug ke malik. (Highest on high Father gives the highest inheritance. He is God. Then, in the second number are Lakshmi-Narayan who are Golden Aged Emperor and Empress) ... Sakar Murli ... 8/1/1975
3) Bhagwaan ne jaroor bhagwaan bhagwati paidaa kiye..(God surely created God and Goddesses) ... Sakar Murli ... 23/5/1976
4) Is rajyog dwaara is purshottam Sangamyug par hi yeh Lakshmi-Narayan bantein hai. (Through this Rajyog , they become become Lakshmi-Narayan in this Purshottam Sangamyug itself) ... Sakar Murli ... 5/12/1974.
From the above points from the Murli, it is clear that Murli is talking about Two Lakshmi-Narayan and not one. One Lakshmi-Narayan (Sangamyugi - Kalaa-atit)) will become the world Emperor and Emperess and the other Laxmi-Narayan (Satyugi - 16 clestial degrees complete) will become become Emperor and Emperess of the Golden Aged World only and not of the whole world.
When we say Kalaa-atit , then they definitely have that divinity and power like the satyugi Lakshmi-Narayan (i.e. they have the 100% power of 16 celestial degrees) but their divinity does not decrease (compared to Satyugi Lakshmi-Narayan) like the brightness of the moon but is stable like the brightness of the Sun (therefore, we say Kalaa-atit) It will only decrease when the actual Satyug starts after coronation of the Satyugi Lakshmi-Narayan.
(Reference: Satyug mein ek janma gujraa khad padi ... Sakar Murli ... 9/11/1972. (In Satyug, one birth passes and the soul falls down, i.e. the kalaa comes down). And Sangamyug hain chadti kalaa kaa yug ... (Sangamyug is the yug of increasing the power of the soul).