aimée wrote:It is clearly said in the Murli that it is Shiva who speaks in the Chariot, but if I answer to your other questions, it would be from my own subjectivity.
"It is true because it says it is true?" ... the obvious question is, "which Murlis when?". Personally, applying "Ockham's Razor" (when faced with two theories the simplest theories is more likely the best), I just think Virendra Dev Dixit HAS to say stuff like that because to say anything else would lose his following and credibility. God active or not. He has to work within the BKWSU Matrix and, to some extent, support it. We know he does not speak always and that sometimes Lekhraj Kirpalani speaks ... so that contradicts this quote.
To be honest aimée, and I mean this in total kindness, I think what happened was that you reached an imaginary wall of limitations in your own conception of Gyan but were being pushed to go through it by others. You panicked. And then started to construct a real wall to try and stop you and others from having to face the realisation that there is more beyond that wall to see, explore and understand.
We all do this. It is human. They thing to do is keep deconstructing those imaginary limitations and not throw bricks at others! But to know or understand what is real and what is illusion, what is knowledge and what is blind faith ... that is the big question.
Unfortunately, I think shivsena's logic must remain a valid open PBK question until we, or a few they, get to that point. It may not have any value to you, or us at this stage. I agree it does not because we are still at a rudimentary stage and building simple foundations in our minds.
So I agree that we should accept it as it is and put it aside for just now to invest our efforts into simple, basic foundation work for ourselves and others. Like documenting history and archiving Murlis etc.