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Post09 Jan 2014

Just when you think it cannot get any worse ... and what happens? The Times of India reports that a Brahma Kumari center-in-charge absconds from the police, yet again, following accusations of multiple sexual abuses at a BK centre ... ending in a forced abortion.

Brahma Kumari center-in-charges absconding from the police is so common, it must be centralized advice coming from somewhere high up in the organization. In this case, it appears the BKs even moved in new center-wassis. The BKs are again labelled a cult.

Note too the BKWSU Mount Abu headquarters sending a big gun to "clear the ashram's stand on the controversy" ... which no doubt will mean bullshitting about the they are friends with the United Nations, know lots of famous people and handing out holy sweeties to journalists and policemen. BKs playing the Brahmin caste card ...

So what do we make of all this?

Firstly, it is not the first time accusations have been made of sexual abuse within Brahma Kumari centers. Abuse of the unpaid young women the Brahma Kumari leaders encult goes from being the unpaid servants of rich male sponsors of centres, to outright sexual abuse and rape as, it would seem, in this case.

Secondly, it underlines an attitude to child birth and abortion that might surprise observers of the religion. I remember as long as 30 years ago the Kirpalani Klan advising a young Western adherent, who had gotten herself pregnant just before coming into The Knowledge, to have an abortion because having a child would be a burden and distract from her spiritual salvation, a salvation from the End of the World which was at that time going to happen around 1986.

Thirdly, it underlines who mafia like the BKs are when the **** hit the fan and how "Om Shanti" can so easily mean Omertà ... and how vulnerable young women, utterly separated from their own real families, are bossed and bullied by center or regional-in-charges.
Brahmakumari ashram inmates claim ignorance on rape case

BHOPAL: Ashram inmates in Brahmakumari sect in Bhopal expressed ignorance about the incident of rape when Habibganj police station staff reached there on Thursday to hold investigations into the allegations made by a Chhatarpur-based woman of the cult that she was raped and later forced to abort by two persons from Bhopal ashram and one from Singrauli.

As the allegations were made in Chhatarpur, the police registered a case and later transferred it to Bhopal. A day after the case was transferred, the police started holding investigations into the allegations of the 25-year-old woman from Chhatarpur. The police also did not find the accused named in the case in Bhopal ashram located near Char Imli.

Police said the disciples from here left for Singrauli. Those who were present in Bhopal ashram belonged to different places across the country.

The complainant had on December 14 alleged in Chhatarpur that two associates of the ashram in Bhopal and one in Singrauli raped her and a woman disciple forced her to undergo abortion. The accused in the case are Awdesh Bahenji and Prembhai of Bhopal and Prasad Bhai of Singrauli.

Police said Awdesh Bahenji had also gone to Singrauli and it has been informed by disciples that she would return on December 29. The police also did not rule out the possibility of going to Singrauli if required.

Sources pointed that a senior associate of Brahmakumari Ashram is coming from Ahmedabad or Mount Abu to clear the ashram's stand on the controversy.

Meanwhile, Singrauli police have also started their investigation and they went to the ashram there but Awdesh Bahenji fell ill and was admitted in a hospital there.

Brahma Kumari ashram head gives police the slip leaves Singrauli before arrest

BHOPAL: The zonal head of Brahma Kumaris' ashram at Singrauli, Awadhesh Behan, accused of forcing a 26-year old rape survivor to undergo abortion, gave a slip to the police and moved out of Singrauli town on Sunday citing ill-health. Awadhesh Behan left for Uttar Pradesh reportedly to get some pathological tests done, even before the complainant could reach Singrauli or the police could file a case against her.

Awadhesh Behan was admitted to the hospital and was undergoing treatment, ever since the woman lodged a complaint against her.

She was admitted to the NTPC hospital in Singrauli from December 17, onwards. It was on December 17, that the copy of the complaint lodged by the 26-year old woman in Chhatapur district reached Singrauli.

Sources said that since the survivor could not reach Singrauli, police was not able to frame case against the in charge of the ashram, Awadhesh Behan. However, hardly few hours before the arrival of the complainant at Singrauli, she moved out of the district.

"She has informed us, that as per referral by doctors she needs to get certain pathological tests done for which she was required to go to Uttar Pradesh. She has assured to return soon after the tests and present herself before the police," in charge of women cell of police, Singrauli, Archana Tiwari told TOI.

"The girl arrived late in the evening so we could not have much discussion with her. But she would be taken to the ashram and her statement would once again be recorded, it is only on the basis of her statements and other evidences that further course of action would be taken," Tiwari said.

Meanwhile, Singrauli police have arrested Prasad Bhai, who the complainant has accused with rape and while Bhopal police has launched a hunt to nab the other accused Prem Bhai, who has been accused of raping the woman in Bhopal ashram.

On, December 15, the woman, a resident of Chhatarpur district and who lived at various ashram of Brahma Kumaris since 2001, alleged that she was raped two times in two years during her stay at Singrauli and Bhopal ashrams and was also forced to undergo abortion. In her complaint to police she alleged that in 2010, she was raped by an employee of ashram Prasad Bhai in Singrauli, later she was forced to undergo abortion by Awadhesh Behan in Bhopal where she was raped by another employee named Prem Bhai in 2012.

However, rape is a hot topic in India right now following some horrendous and high profile cases. Pre- or extra-marital sex is still a taboo in many parts of the country.

Out of fairness and equanimity, one would have to ask the question, was it rape and serial sex abuse, or was it a "human needs" and a tragic love affair gone wrong, as in the Panipat case where a young Kumari burnt herself alive and BK center-wassis cleared away all the corpse and evidence before the police became involved? In some cases, an accusation of rape can be the only way for a woman to regain face after a consensual relationship. An abortion, the easy way to tidy un 'inconvenient' evidence.

At present, we don't know ... and you can guarantee on the BKWSU not providing more details.

Is the BK system of absolute abstinence ... including even simple human love and affection ... working? What human costs is their religious and caste role play worth?


One thing that does stand out for me in this is ... as with the child sex abuse incidents ... the victim was not just victimised by one offender, but more. The coincidences of such random victim abuse happening by chance to one individual are so minute, that both case suggest 'rings' or at least associations between the abusers.

Note also how these men are referred to as "employees", not volunteers, adherents or sevadhari servants. It would seem the Brahma Kumaris wealth, and the employment of lower caste workers to perform menial tasks for the cult, is coming back to haunt them.

In their ambitions for power and wealth ... the Brahma Kumaris have gone from "Quality" to "Quantity", without sufficient safeguards and filters to protect the young women and children they encult into their Doomsday Sect. Have we yet to hear of a BK leader taking responsibility for such incidents or a center-in-charge being made an example of? I cannot think of any. Normally the BKs' response to the victims is ... "it's their karma".

It's India. Plenty more unwanted young girls to be kept working 7 days a week unpaid where she came from.

Note the words of an Indian commentator on The Times website ...
Sushil India (India) 24 Dec, 2013

All Ashrams these scandals are so common .Only few comes in light .Otherwise most of them remain behind close doors .These are legal brothels .
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BK Rape Brahma Kumari leader absconds after forcing abortion

Post09 Jan 2014

Expect the BKs to work the media and for article to disappear as in the past. Please excuse me as I document copies for those in denial about the BK underbelly. Note BKs already in aggressive legal defence and accusing the police of improper procedure.

The god of the BKs says to his devotees, "Not a hair on your head will be touched" and promises to protect them, "like a mother cat protects her kittens".

Well, where was he this time ... swanning around with wealthy businessmen and VIPs as usual? Or paying lawyers and paying off the judges with invitations to free holidays at their retreat centers?

If the BKs' Baba's promises and predictions are not consistent, if they keep failing time and time again ... when are they ever worth anything? When can you ever believe him? Simple answer is ... you cannot. It's all BS.

Meanwhile, for those who care, senior bigwig BK, and general secretary of the BKWSU, Nirwair was taken 233 km to an intensive care unit in an Ahmedabad hospital with a serious heart condition. It seems he was put into a coma and on a ventilator ... Br Nirwair's Health Bulletin Report.

Weren't the BKs claiming to have a cure for heart disease just a short while ago?

Cue lots of senior BKs travelling around India at donors' expense and requests for prayers. No mention of the young female rape and abortion victim ...
Sevadar of Brahma Kumaris ashram in Singrauli nabbed

BHOPAL: A sevadar of Brahma Kumaris ashram in Singrauli was arrested on December 19, and produced before court on Friday, in connection with the alleged rape of a 26-year old woman during her tenure as sevika in the ashram. Meanwhile, the other accused in the case, who was allegedly working at Bhopal ashram of is still untraceable.

In charge of women cell of police in Singrauli said, "Prasad Bhai, an accused in the case was arrested late on Thursday evening and was presented before court on December 20. He was sent to jail by a local court".

"At the same time, the zonal head of the Brahma Kumaris, Awadhesh Behan, who is accused of forcing the girl for undergoing abortion after rape, is undergoing treatment at NTPC hospital in Singrauli. However, we are keeping a close watch on her and police personnel have been deployed there also," Tiwari said.

Our officials have also discussed with officials of Chhatarpur, for bringing the survivor girl to Singrauli, so that investigations could move forward. She is likely to be in town in the next few days, she said.

The other accused in the case, Prem Bhai, who worked at Bhopal ashram is still not traceable. Meanwhile, a delegation of the representatives of Brahma Kumaris, met the director general of police, Nandan Dubey and submitted a memorandum claiming, that allegations against the ashram inmates are baseless and police should have registered FIRs only after proper investigations.

On December 15, a 26-year-old woman has alleged that she was raped two times in a span of two years during her stay at Brahma Kumaris Ashram and was also forced to undergo abortion.

The survivor is the resident of Chhatarpur district. In her complaint the woman said that she has been working with the ashram since 2001, said police. She alleged in the complaint that during her stay at Singrauli, ashram in the year 2010, she was raped by an employee of the ashram named, Prasad Bhai.

Later when she became pregnant she complaint to the in-charge of the Brahma Kumaris Ashram at Bhopal, name Awdhesh Behan, she alleged. The survivor alleged that the Ashram in charge, called her to Bhopal and she was made to undergo abortion at a private hospital.

Again in year 2012, she was raped at Bhopal by an employee of the ashram named Prem Bhai but her complaints were not entertained at ashram, she alleged in her complaint to police.
Br Nirwair's Health Bulletin Report 8 January 2014 - Second Update

Greetings From Madhuban

This is to inform you that today (08 January 2014) at around 7.30 pm we received a message from Dr. Pratap Midha regarding further progress on Respected Nirwair Bhai ji's health.

Below is the transcribed version of Dr. Midha's Audio message that we received from 'Apex Heart Insitute" Ahmedabad.
"Om Shanti. We are happy to share with you that Nirwair Bhai's Progress is Good, His ventilatory support has been taken out and he is breathing on his own & his respiration, his blood pressure, everything is doing very well. He is fully alert & conscious.

During day time Dadi Gulzar had also come to visit him & it was a lovely scene. They had silent exchange of Drishti. Sarla Didi was also accompanying. Now he is able to take orally also. He has taken sips of water. He is alert and conscious. Everything is going well as per the Doctor's expectations. Now he would be moved to his personal room maybe in a day & I am sure we will be sharing with you the good news. Thank You Very Much. Om Shanti".
Requesting all to please continue sending powerful SAKAASH from your end. Om Shanti.

On Behalf Of Dr.Pratap Midha & Brother Karuna (BK Nikunj)
8 January 2014 - First Update

Greetings From Madhuban

This is to inform you that today (07 January 2014) at around 9.30 pm we received a message from Dr.Ashok Mehta & Brother Karuna ji regarding further progress on Respected Nirwair Bhai ji 's health.

Below is the transcribed version of Dr.Mehta's Audio message that we received from 'Apex Heart Insitute" Ahmedabad. "This is about the health of Nirwair Bhai. Today he is progressing well. He is still in Intensive Care Unit. He is also on Ventilator. But his blood pressure is well maintained with lower doses of supports & his ventilatary support is relatively less then what it was yesterday. His urine output is good, his consciousness level is very good, he is responding, opening his eye, and otherwise I think over and all he is progressing very well. In another couple of days he should be off the ventilator as well as all other supports. Om Shanti".

Transcribed version of Brother Karuna's Audio message that we received from 'Apex Heart Insitute" Ahmedabad after he met Nirwair Bhai. "On behalf of you all, I went to see Nirwair Bhai and greeted him with an Om Shanti. He reciprocated by opening his eyes and smiled and expressed his gratitude to you all. All your blessings, affections & love are reaching here. I believe in a couple of days he will be as normal as we all are. Om Shanti."

Requesting all to please continue sending powerful SAKAASH from your end. Om Shanti.

On Behalf Of Dr.Ashok Mehta & Brother Karuna
B.K.Nikunj

7 January 2014

Sweetest BapDada's jewels of light being sustained by BapDada's sweet sustenance, Brothers and Sisters who are the decoration of the Brahmin clan, please accept special love and remembrances from Ahmedabad.

This is to inform you that on 6 January evening, our specially beloved senior Brother Nirwairji's health was not so good and therefore, had to be taken to Ahmedabad to be admitted at the Apex Heart Institute at around 2.30am today. According to Dr. Pratap Midha, Nirwairbhai had very high blood pressure and fluctuating pulse rate. Senior doctors in Ahmedabad gave him emergency treatment to stablise all parameters.

At present, Nirwairbhai is under observation of a team of expert doctors. His condition is stable, and the doctors are waiting for further improvement to conduct further investigations. We will continue to keep you all informed of further information by e-mail from time to time.

It is our special request to all of you that you send powerful sakaash from your own places to our divine Brother to help him recover as quickly as possible.

In Baba's Yaad,
Dr Partap and Br Karuna
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Meanwhile, a delegation of the representatives of Brahma Kumaris, met the director general of police, Nandan Dubey and submitted a memorandum claiming, that allegations against the ashram inmates are baseless and police should have registered FIRs only after proper investigations.

Instead of playing these legal games, the right course of action for the BKWSU would be to do everything possible to assist police with their investigations, and if allegations are shown to be true, to offer what co-operation they can for a successful prosecution.
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Post09 Jan 2014

For me, when they become legalistically defensive/aggressive like this ... and I have had direct person experience of it... they can behave awfully conceitedly and trickily. There's an element within them who really think they are above the law or common decency.

When they started their legal case against us, one came telling us how Dadi Janki wanted to stop the matter and how he wanted to help us ... and then the information we gave to them, went straight back to their attorney to be used against us. They came to use offering conciliation, and then when we provided what they asked for (proof of a center-in-charge having a marital and sexual relation within the BKWSU), they turned it around and accused us of trying to blackmail them!!!

I would *never* trust anyone of them again. They are too under the control of the personal influence of the Seniors. Even good ones are afraid to stand out and take a moral or ethical stance.

Western BKs waffle on about how the BKs are feminist or spiritual, or whatever ... but they don't realise just how much the BKs leaders in India are playing the caste game too by asserting themselves to be "Brahmins". That is my opinion. And I dare say by now they have a small army of enculted advocates and magistrates to argue on their behalf. Men of a certain age who get off on "protecting" "their women".

From this brief summary of what FIRs are, you see the game they are playing. The victim being put in the spotlight and expected jump through hoops.

But that's the worldly aspect ... I am more interested in the other worldly or spiritual aspect. Why did not their Baba protect this woman?

Or does the god BKWSU only protect the chosen few? If so, and he has magic curative powers, why did not he protect Nriwair? What "protected" Nirwair, was the money to ship him to Ahmedabad ... and given it's more than 4 hours drive, I am wondering if they spent the money, or pulled strings to fly him?

To paraphrase Epicurus, if the god of the BKs cannot protect his flock, why does he say he can in the Murlis ... and would a god who cannot protect his flock, say he could? If not, is he a god?
First Information Report

An First Information Report (FIR) is a written document prepared by police in India when they receive information about a cognizable offence. It is generally a complaint lodged with the police by the victim of said cognizable offense, or by someone on his or her behalf, but anyone can make such a report either orally or in writing to the police.

An FIR is an important document because it sets the process of criminal justice in motion. It is only after the FIR is registered in the police station that the police take up investigation of the case. Anyone who knows about the commission of a cognizable offence, including police officers, can file an FIR.

When information about the commission of a cognizable offence is given orally, the police must write it down. The person giving information or making a complaint has a right to demand that the information recorded by the police be read to him or her.

Once the information has been recorded by the police, it must be signed by the person giving the information.

In India, after an FIR has been filed the contents of the FIR cannot be changed except by a ruling from the High Court or the Supreme Court of India.
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Sorry to go back to the legalistic.

Your extract indicates a First Incident Report (FIR) is made out when a complainant tells police of an offence.

The BKs' claim, that the "police should have registered FIRs only after proper investigations”, does not square with this. Police do not investigate, it seems, until there is an FIR (I.e a formal complaint) made.

The BK representatives are trying to create a catch-22, foolishly (wishfully) expecting others to accept the doublethink they are so adept at convincing themselves of, regardless of implications.

For the sake of the victim, and potential victims, one hopes the local law enforcers are not easily bought off.
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Looks like it made TV ... translation/impression from Hindi speaker, please. There is an interview with someone whom I presume is the victim, and comments from BK leaders. The BK make one of their habitual claims ... that it's all just a baseless plot of "false allegations to tarnish the image of ashram". We've heard that one before. It appears that money comes into the equation ... the center-in-charge claiming they did not give her any to carry out the abortion.

The BKs are more concerned with bullying the police over what they should be doing rather than looking at their own conduct and system.

Brahmakumari ‘ rape victim’ refuses to record statement - January 11, 2014

Ashram inmates meet DGP, alleges conspiracy

BHOPAL: The 26 year old Chattarpur resident, who was allegedly raped in Brahmakumari ashram and her counsel approached Habibganj police station on Friday afternoon. SHO GP Agrawal, while talking to the ‘Free Press’, said the victim and her counsel reached police station from where she was taken to court where she was presented in the court of Chief Judicial Magistrate (CJM).

In the court, the woman in her statement said her mental condition is not well and she was not in a position to record her statement as of now. Hearing this, the CJM gave three days time to the victim woman to record her statement. Agrawal added that as the statement of victim could not be recorded the further action of police to inspect the spot of incident at ashram along with the woman could be made after three days.

Earlier a sevadar of Brahma Kumaris ashram in Singrauli Prasad Bhai was arrested on December 19, and produced before the court, in connection with the alleged during her tenure as sevika in the ashram. Meanwhile, the other accused in the case, who was allegedly working at Bhopal ashram is still untraceable.

At the same time, the zonal head of the Brahma Kumaris, Awadhesh Behan, accused of intimidating the girl to undergo abortion after rape, was also quizzed by Habibganj police in which she denied all the allegations against her as baseless.

She said as she was not given the money she demanded from us she is levelling false allegations to tarnish the image of ashram.

Meanwhile, a delegation of the representatives of Brahma Kumaris met DGP Nandan Dubey and submitted a memorandum claiming the allegations against the ashram inmates baseless and police should have registered FIRs only after proper investigations.

Elsewhere, BK Shivani discusses the Dehli rape (Hindi only), and this appears to document a different case ... (please check). The BKs lockdown on the media appears to be slipping.
SHOCKING: 'Brahmakumari' raped for four years at Ishwariya Vishwavidyalaya in Patna Bhaskar News - Sep 24, 2013.

PATNA: Country's one of the most well-known "Godly University", which offers courses that focus on the benefits of moral and spiritual approaches to life was defamed on Monday. In a shocking incident, a 22-year-old spiritual leader Brahma Kumari was allegedly raped for four years by a sewak on the pretext of marriage at the famous Brahmakumaris Ishwariya Vishwavidyalaya here.

Sewak Lallan has been accused of raping the spiritual leader. The shameful incident came to light on Monday when the victim along with members of Prem Youth organisation reached Mahila Police station and reported the matter.

The victim alleged that she was not the only Brahmakumari to have faced the sexual assault, but there were also many other, who were going through the shameful act. Moreover, the brahmakumari was also threatened of dire consequences by the sewak. She informed that she had reported about the matter to Brahmakumari Anju, who heads the Fatuha located University but to no avail.

Whereas, Brahmakumari rubbished the allegations on Monday. "All the allegations are false," adding, "The 22-year old was accused of misconduct and expelled from the University sometime back."

Notably, Brahmakumaris World Spiritual University (BKWSU) is a well known spiritual value based educational institution that has gained global acceptance and unique international recognition. One of the most famous faces of Brahmakumari Sisters, "Brahmakumari Shivani" has given many speeches about 'Art of Joyful Living' at several reputed institutes including the Indian Institute of Management (IIM).
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Post17 Jan 2014

It appears the name of Awadhesh Behan (Sister) ... the zonal head of the Bhopal Brahma Kumaris who according to Baba's plan miraculously required medical treatment and had to go to (hide in) hospital at exactly the same time at the Brahma Kumari rape controversy arose ... is also spelt BK Avdhesh, and recently met His Excellency Shri Ram Naresh Yadav ji, Governor of Madhya Pradesh.

Typically, she was doing what the BK consider to be serving humanity ... defined as wearing big badges, chasing VIPs, and handing out framed pictures.

Also typical is absolute silence from the BK forum who whilst they continue to find criticisms of this website show no concern for the unpaid female worker victims of their End of the World cult.

In near by Shivpuri district of Madhya Pradesh, 20% of children are severely malnourished. And yet ... whilst one in three of the world's malnourished children are Indian, 43% of children under 5 years are underweight according to UNICEF, and 3,000 die every day from starvation ... it looks like chubby Brahma Kumari rape/abortion controversy Sister Avdhesh has had her fingers in the toli jar!

Is this the Brahma Kumaris "highest service" of humanity? Perhaps this is the BKs new solution for India's child welfare problems ... abort them all so they are not a distraction to the intellects of their poor rich VIP contacts?

The Brahma Kumaris widely advertise their connection to UNICEF ... what are they actually doing there apart from promoting themselves?

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Post17 Jan 2014

Brahmakumari Sister Avdhesh is a Zonal Director and, it seems, an 'office bearer' of the RajYoga Education and Research Foundation (RERF). Another grand sounding Brahma Kumari front, that has done basically no research nor educating beyond attempting to encult individuals, and which poses as a "Sister organization" with "similar aims and purposes" as the BKIVV. Funny how, for a "Sister organization", it is run by Brothers.

Avdhesh's task in the upliftment of humanity involves such important duties as ... cutting ribbons and lighting candles.

It strikes me that the Brahma Kumaris floral and 'big poster' budget alone would feed 3,000 children per day ... but then, I am obviously not enlightened enough to realise that the starvation is fault of the children who suffer it, as the BKs believe.

Now, if we remember back to the BKWSU (UK)'s accounts and how they spent £500,000 putting in new kitchens in Mount Abu to feed their own adherents, we also discover they spent £10,024 in one year on "gardening" for their lectures, discourses and special events. How can you "garden" for a lecture or seminar?

I think they mean spend money on flowers ... therefore, as the Brahma Kumaris spend £500,000 on new kitchens and £10,000 per year on flowers for one country alone (multiple by 180) ... 3,000 children a year day die in India from avoidable malnutrition. Bizarre values, is not it?

"If you cannot abort them, let them starve to death as one celebrates one's own greatness ... if you have to abort them, deny all responsibility and abscond", is it?

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I thought this picture was very telling, behind the child is a picture of the very same deities
the Brahma Kumaris believe their leaders are. Where are they and what are they doing now?

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Rajini, from nearby Shivpuri district in Madhya Pradesh, weighs 5 kg, about half of what she should.

Child mortality in Shivpuri district is 103 deaths per 1,000. Mostly families live on less than $2 a day. The Brahma Kumaris ... who boast an affiliation with the UN's child orientated NGO UNICEF say ... "It's their karma! cannot be helped. It's the fag end of the Kalpa cycle, and these Shudra souls come and die like flies."!
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Post18 Jan 2014

As BKs can’t hold their corner here in argument, precious princesses who feel that any accusation or disagreement in emotive debates is tantamount to violence (rather than a noble substitute for violence) and is an affront to the ”divine authority" they’ve been told they have, let me, for the sake of discussion, put a devil’s advocate case for them:

The BK defence is - "We are not a charity for feeding the hungry, we are a spiritual education organisation. You may as well accuse every non-direct feeding charity or group of the same, of ignoring the poor.”

What say you, ex-l?
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Post18 Jan 2014

Of course but what is the real aim of these charities that got all filled with money because some people really wanna do good and help the poor. If one is not there to help you can buy off you imprinted guilt with money.


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Pink Panther wrote:The BK defence is - "We are not a charity for feeding the hungry, we are a spiritual education organisation. You may as well accuse every non-direct feeding charity or group of the same, of ignoring the poor.”

What say you, ex-l?

It's notable that no BK with half a brain and a heart has ever tried to come here and really defend the cult ... let alone one of their actual leaders.

Are the BKs even discussing this latest case of sex abuse within their cult?

I think the reasons are because;
    a) the majority of Western BKs with half a brain and a heart would tend to agree with these criticisms (I am excluding from this equation the 'hive mind' cult followers who would simply argue endlessly from the position of psychological denial as the BKWSU).

    b) the leaders would not risk their true values being exposed ... and are not interested in investing any time in moral or ethical debates when there is the option of promoting the financial wellbeing of their religious business.

    (Promoting the financial wellbeing of their religious business - income - happens in many ways both direct and indirect. Their obsession with fame and status rather than getting their hands dirty doing anything of real social value is typical of this).
On one hand, Brahma's Princesses have all the right they want to be a futile and frivolous as they want, or wear in their early indulgent period. But, on the other, if they go making claims on their "charity" registration that the were established to "relieve poverty" or claim, on their accounts that they are established to carry out "humanitarian aid", then they have a moral responsibility to do so. Or be ridiculed for not doing so.

So, yes, on one level they can do whatever they want and exploit every opportunity the world offers them ... but whatever they do will subject scrutiny on the basis of what they claim to be or claim to be doing.

If you're a rogue or a rake* who admits to being a rogue or rake then, fair enough, you're a rogue or a rake and either fun or objectionable to be with.

But if you are a rogue or a rake who claims to be god, doing god's work, being the highest religion ... etc etc etc ... then you are far, far worse and doing a far, far worse thing than just roguing and raking. Just why, we can go on to discuss.

What are the Brahma Kumaris really doing? Amassing properties to offer weekend breaks to middle class people to make themselves feel better? And even more laughable of late ... to improve the management performance of corporate executive!?!

Is that who the "Lord of the Poor" is really most concerned about?

(* rake n. An immoral or dissolute person.)
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Post18 Jan 2014

Pink Panther wrote:The BK defence is - "We are not a charity for feeding the hungry, we are a spiritual education organisation. You may as well accuse every non-direct feeding charity or group of the same, of ignoring the poor.”

What say you, ex-l?
ex-l wrote:But, on the other, if they go making claims on their "charity" registration that the were established to "relieve poverty" or claim, on their accounts that they are established to carry out "humanitarian aid", then they have a moral responsibility to do so. Or be ridiculed for not doing so.

Yes, this answers the ”advocate’s” argument.

To clarify, for this current topic and for those who’d argue as I have: Do your quotation marks around ”relieve poverty” and ”humanitarian aid” indicate that these are quotes, actually stated claims for charitable status? If you can indulge me, where?
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Yes, both come from the written legal documents, signed on behalf BKWSU (UK), and handed into the Charity Commission which the Kirpalani Klan then use to gain tax funding from the British Government.

I have linked to the specific documents before but if you go to the Charity Commission website and look for Registered Charity 'Brahma Kumaris WORLD SPIRITUAL UNIVERSITY (UK)' 269971, you will find them all.

The big joke is, the person who signed them on behalf of the Kirpalani Klan is another one of those BKs who "secretly" married another BK ... probably just for the sake of a money making, if truth be known ... and who the Kirpalani Klan are apparently happy to go along with and allow their indulgences ... as long as he supports theirs.

I refer to "BK boss" Sanjay Tulsidas ... and you thought Janki or Jayanti Kirpalani ran the BKWSU?
    "By their fruit, so you will recognise them" ... Matthew 7:16.
Just why the Kirpalani Klan might so indulge the "poverty" of a married individual who enjoys the pleasure of upmarket health spas where other women apart from his BK "wife" walk about half-naked (he must think he is in Nirvana) ... instead of the starving children in their own Indian neighbourhoods ... is a question concerned BKs ought to be asking their own leaders, like Janki and Jayanti.

And, at the same time, they might be asking what the rule relating to marriages are, and just which BKs are allow to marry off together and why?

I believe Sanjay Tulsidas is originally from Mauritius *and* that is also where the administrator of BrahmaKumarisForum.net's so called "wife" is also from. Given that they both attend the London centre where Jayanti Kripalani rules the roost, it seems an awfully strong coincidence.

Apparently Janki and Jayanti are OK with it all but we need dig out the truth of the situation. From a BK point of view, I have to say the moral rot goes right to the core of the BKWSU (UK). No reports of children being abort though ... yet.

Putting aside the favoritism and the old BK position on marriage as being "slaughterhouses" and the "gateway to hell" etc ... my legal questions would be;
    a) Are marriages marriages if they are not consummated? (Because a lack of consummation is grounds for divorce alone).

    b) Are "marriages of convenience" within the Brahma Kumari society acceptable, or are they really just not "immigration fraud"?

    c) And if they are just financial or immigration "frauds" (being "married" has tax benefits), why does the Kirpalani Klan trust someone carrying out a such an at least "spiritual fraud" to sign their legal papers ... unless they are looking for that specific skill.
I don't know what the current "Shrimat" on BK marrying each other is but I think marriages for love are better than marriages for money or visas. In the old days, Lekhraj Kirpalani allowed a handful of BKs to marry to avoid pressure from parents ... but most left and so he stopped the practise. Only Ramesh and Usha stuck it out.

Nowadays, some BKs appear to be taking Shrimat into their own hands in a way we would never have been allowed to, and a way in which most of the BK slave girls would be chucked out for. My interpretation would be as long as it is "good for business" (they get something out of it), the Kirpalanis will go along with it, whereas if it look like it might take something out of their business (money, free labour, obedient devotion to them), they are against it.

The story all ties back together though ... because I do remember the Kirpalani Klan "encouraging" a young White woman to have an abortion 30 years ago. How many in between times? Perhaps this is just 'standard operating procedures' and what goes wrong is when the Brahma Kumari has a second thought about what has happened and takes back control of her own life and mind?
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Post14 May 2015

Just an update ... I missed. From Facts of Singrauli blog.

I am still disgusted by the habit ... yes, it happens time and time again ... the BK has of having its center-in-charges abscond after any serious issue. Presumably they hide somewhere else in the organization.
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BHOPAL: The zonal head of Brahma Kumaris' ashram at Singrauli, Awadhesh Behan, accused of forcing a 26-year old rape survivor to undergo abortion, gave a slip to the police and moved out of Singrauli town on Sunday citing ill-health. Awadhesh Behan left for Uttar Pradesh reportedly to get some pathological tests done, even before the complainant could reach Singrauli or the police could file a case against her.

Awadhesh Behan was admitted to the hospital and was undergoing treatment, ever since the woman lodged a complaint against her.

She was admitted to the NTPC hospital in Singrauli from December 17, onwards. It was on December 17, that the copy of the complaint lodged by the 26-year old woman in Chhatapur district reached Singrauli.

Sources said that since the survivor could not reach Singrauli, police was not able to frame case against the in charge of the ashram, Awadhesh Behan. However, hardly few hours before the arrival of the complainant at Singrauli, she moved out of the district.

"She has informed us, that as per referral by doctors she needs to get certain pathological tests done for which she was required to go to Uttar Pradesh. She has assured to return soon after the tests and present herself before the police," in charge of women cell of police, Singrauli, Archana Tiwari told TOI.

"The girl arrived late in the evening so we could not have much discussion with her. But she would be taken to the ashram and her statement would once again be recorded, it is only on the basis of her statements and other evidences that further course of action would be taken," Tiwari said.

Meanwhile, Singrauli police have arrested Prasad Bhai, who the complainant has accused with rape and while Bhopal police has launched a hunt to nab the other accused Prem Bhai, who has been accused of raping the woman in Bhopal ashram.

On, December 15, the woman, a resident of Chhatarpur district and who lived at various ashram of Brahma Kumaris since 2001, alleged that she was raped two times in two years during her stay at Singrauli and Bhopal ashrams and was also forced to undergo abortion. In her complaint to police she alleged that in 2010, she was raped by an employee of ashram Prasad Bhai in Singrauli, later she was forced to undergo abortion by Awadhesh Behan in Bhopal where she was raped by another employee named Prem Bhai in 2012.
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Post03 Jun 2015

After reading the content. I would like to say that .. let's not blame all Brahma Kumaris for a few culprits.

Some people due to poverty might join BK center for free food and lodging. I, in my own words, would call those people DEVIL IN DISGUISE. Some people are very dedicated too this BK mission.

BK should monitor and continuously check in and out. Women should stand for them self. do not fear. If any thing goes wrong immediately contact police, but DO NOT Keep the rape matter hidden because it might get worse and worse.

Women awaken your power and protect yourself.
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