You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

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arjun

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post06 Sep 2008

Sister bansy wrote:Well, if they can put parts of the Murli on the mobile, why not the Murli itself ?
BK Anand wrote:(3) Murli Points Call: Content of Recorded. Voice Call: Meethe Bachche, Q&A, Dharna Saar, Vardan, Vardan ka Vistar & Slogan. Duration: about 3 minutes

Sister bansy,

Omshanti. I think you are mistaken. They are not giving parts of the actual Murli, but only the accessories which are prepared by the BK Murli team on the basis of the actual Murli. These accessories are either prefixed or suffixed to the Murli, like Q&A, essence of dharna, blessings, elaboration of the blessings, slogan.

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post06 Sep 2008

john morgan wrote:Do you think that the purpose of study and knowledge is to learn to be kind to oneself and others?

It may not be for everyone but it definitely is for me and I must say that whether it is God or not teaching, and whatever flaws and discrepancies there are in The Knowledge, it surely helped me tremendously to become a better person in many ways.

As for this wake up call business, as well as for all other business ventures of and around the BKWSU, it is totally against Shrimat.

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post06 Sep 2008

arjun wrote:I think you are mistaken. They are not giving parts of the actual Murli, but only the accessories which are prepared by the BK Murli team on the basis of the actual Murli. These accessories are either prefixed or suffixed to the Murli, like Q&A, essence of dharna, blessings, elaboration of the blessings, slogan.

Thanks for clarifying the Hindi. But it does not take away the fact that if they can give parts of the accessory components, they cannot give out the rest of the Murli.
bkti-pit wrote:It may not be for everyone but it definitely is for me and I must say that whether it is God or not teaching, and whatever flaws and discrepancies there are in The Knowledge, it surely helped me tremendously to become a better person in many ways.

I also agree with this. I am also indebted to the forum for the many insights too, to broaden the issues and broaden the mind. There are also other things outside of BKism which are fruitful.

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post06 Sep 2008

bansy wrote:I am also indebted to the forum for the many insights too ...

And so am I ... and grateful.
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arjun

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post06 Sep 2008

But it does not take away the fact that if they can give parts of the accessory components, they cannot give out the rest of the Murli.

I don't think they will. But that is your/our karma :D.

The nearest solution to releasing the Murlis from their captivity could be if you, or any member of this forum, could go back to BKWSU, become surrendered, win their confidence and the password to access their Murlis (sent through internet) and then provide us those Murlis confidentially. Then it would be their karma seeing their Murlis on this forum. :D
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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post06 Sep 2008

john morgan wrote:Do you think that the purpose of study and knowledge is to learn to be kind to oneself and others?

It is one of the aims. Is there any doubts?
arjun wrote:The nearest solution to releasing the Murlis from their captivity could be if you, or any member of this forum, could go back to BKWSU, become surrendered, win their confidence and the password to access their Murlis (sent through internet) and then provide us those Murlis confidentially.

Do you really realise what you are talking about? It is not our job to get Murlis. Our job is to have and maintain strong will to become pure and perfect. The rest is His task. Murlis had been spoken for everyone. Do you understand? For EVERYONE. Not only for those who had passed introduction course. It is not somebody's property. For me, it doesn't matter that they have this type of preaching. He had told all this not only for selected. He had told knowledge for all. So He have to return things to the right way. It is His duty.
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arjun

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post07 Sep 2008

shivshankar wrote:Do you really realise what you are talking about? It is not our job to get Murlis.

If everyone remains silent, then they will continue to keep the Murlis in their captivity as long as possible.
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shivshankar

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post07 Sep 2008

arjun wrote:If everyone remains silent, then they will continue to keep the Murlis in their captivity as long as possible.

Please understand one thing. They (don't know yet who exactly) consider themselves to be right. And of course higher than others. The only Voice which they will hear is His.

To compare: eggs do not teach a hen. We are eggs in their eyes at the moment:). If you want to change something in your understanding of right and wrong you may try. I prefer to do what He really wants. So my advice: just accumulate your power of thoughts, you will need it in the nearest future. Devote yourself and He will do the rest through you. Not your mind, but He;).
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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post07 Sep 2008

shivshankar wrote:To compare: eggs do not teach a hen. We are eggs in their eyes at the moment:). If you want to change something in your understanding of right and wrong you may try. I prefer to do what He really wants.

If you think BKWSU is the hen and we are its eggs, then I don't agree. In that case you have not understood as to who has actually started this Yagya. It is not BKWSU that gave us the spiritual birth. It is ShivBaba. Is He present in Mount Abu to clarify our doubt? I am not suggesting to ShivBaba to release the Murlis, but to the BKWSU which at present consists of my Brothers and Sisters and not my Father.
So my advice: just accumulate your power of thoughts, you will need it in the nearest future. Devote yourself and He will do the rest through you. Not your mind, but He;).

It is He who is providing us the Murlis through some of His children, which we are quoting on this forum everyday.
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shivshankar

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post07 Sep 2008

arjun wrote:If you think BKWSU is the hen and we are its eggs, then I don't agree.

Dear Brother, I said that in their EYES we are eggs.
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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post08 Sep 2008

So the age old question is still relevant: "Which comes first, the Chicken or the Egg" ?
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shivshankar

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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post08 Sep 2008

It is offtopic indeed. But in case with Cycle the answer is both.
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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post08 Sep 2008

And veering completely off the Amrit Vela topic but I've got to be the first to link to some Why Did the Chicken Cross the Road? jokes... :D
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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post08 Sep 2008

You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Heaven forbid! Do people still do such a sleep-depriving thing?
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Re: You can now be woken up for Amrit Vela

Post25 Sep 2008

It is all a bit boring now innit, no family just a brand.

Amrit was always a bit freaky deaky for me ... 4 am is Bhakti, is not it?
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